Offical American Idol Discussion Thread

[Az Pirates]

Originally posted by gometros
Don't be so sure. If history has proved anything, nothing is for certain. It's still a popularity contest and Jasmine may pull in enough votes to beat out either of the other two. I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way the game is played.

I didn't even watch last night 'cuz I hate how they drag it all out
"we'll find out... after the commercial break"

I knew Jasmine would be the one voted off anyway. Oops!

So I agree, nothing is certain.

I would bet on Diana and Fantasia as the final two as well - but who knows?

 

[jin diesel]

This is the first season of the show I've ever watched, and all I have learned is that America is deaf!

Was it like this during the previous seasons; where people who CAN sing get voted off?

I'm sad about LaToya. I really thought she was the strongest performer of the group.

 

[calypso*a*go-go]

IMHO they will not do anything to change the voting method. Why should they? All the controversy around who stays and who goes is what helps keep the ratings up. People would lose interest if everything was totally predictable. Each week I get angry with the results and swear I will never watch again. But what do I do? I make sure I have my big caboose planted right in front of that TV. I even make sure they haven't change the start time so I won't miss even a second of this Love/Hate relationship...

 

[Robinrs]

Originally posted by gometros

For those of you who say Jasmine should have been booed. SHAME ON YOU. Imagine that was your daughter/sister up there. Nobody deserves that kind of disrespect. While she may have been the weakest of the four, she was obviously good enough to make it that far.

Shame? Booing is a reaction to the vote the way clapping is a reaction tp a vote that people agree on.

If a performer cannot take reaction like that she should NOT be on the stage, I don't care how old she is. Everyone disagrees that Simon says they're too young but then we're told "he's only 16, poor baby" "she's only 17, how do you expect her to act?" Show business is tough. If you cannot handle it there are many other careers.

I'm SURE this whole thread would be very different if Fantasia was booed.

Everyone on this thread has stated how they feel over and over with no "shame". And everyone has the right to state their opinion and do.

 

[FOJMO]

I saw something on our "crawl news" at the bottom of the ABC screen this morning, but didn't catch the whole thing.

It was something about American Idol and something one of the contestants did that "angered her fans" and "surprised the judges."

Anyone hear anything???

NEVER MIND -- IT WAS JUST THE NEWS ABOUT LATOYA BEING VOTED OFF -- I THOUGHT THAT WAS "OLD" NEWS!!!!!!

 

[TINK61]

Okay - I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet but I heard on the news this morning as they were commenting on the voting on AI - Hawaii is 6 hrs difference - so therefore the lines are not as jammed up as they are for the rest of us which means that they are able to cast more votes for Jasmine. This explains why Camille lasted as long as she did.

They need to do something about this voting arrangement. Next year they may have a contestant from Alaska - the same thing will happen again. People who should still be in the running will get axed and someone who knows darn well they are not worthy will slide by due to a timezone advantage.

It has turned in to an unfair competition.

 

[iNTeNSeBLue98]

I found this on a local news stations website:

Phone Records May Hold Key To 'Idol' Controversy

POSTED: 2:58 p.m. EDT May 14, 2004
UPDATED: 3:49 p.m. EDT May 14, 2004

The controversy over La Toya London being kicked knocked off "American Idol" on Wednesday continues -- and it appears that callers in Hawaii may have had something to do with it.

On Tuesday night, "American Idol" judge Simon Cowell told Hawaii native Jasmine Trias after flubbing her performance that she'd "better hope that every household in Hawaii has at least five telephones" because she would "need all the support" she could get.

Well it turns out maybe everyone in Hawaii did call and vote for her.

Fox refuses to release voting data, which is prompting fans on the Internet to say the show is rigged. However, one phone company's records might hold some clues to why Trias wasn't voted off -- although it doesn't really answer how the polished London could possibly get booted.

Of the 29 states in Verizon's local territory, only New York and California logged more calls on its network than Hawaii after the show.

California and New York are among the states with the most people, of course, and Hawaii has one of the smallest number of people.

There's also a theory that timing had something to do with it.

Hawaii is six hours behind the East Coast. And because of that time difference those viewers might enjoy a less-crowded calling period to cast votes.

Also, a number of radio stations reportedly announce the phone number to call to vote for Trias hours before it airs in Hawaii on a regular basis.

Trias arrived to a throng of cameras and reporters at Honolulu International Airport Thursday during a quick trip home. She faces off against finalists Fantasia Barrino and Diana DeGarmo on the show next week. "I was kind of shocked. I thought I was going to go, but thank you so much for putting me through. You guys have been such great support," Trias told reporters.

Previous Stories:
May 13, 2004: Another 'Idol' Controversy Erupts After London Gets Boot
April 29, 2004: Simon, Singer Answer Elton's Charges Of 'Racist' 'Idol' Voting
April 28, 2004: Elton John Calls 'Idol' Voting 'Racist'
Distributed by Internet Broadcasting Systems, Inc. The Associated Press contributed to this report. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Interesting theory.

 

[MickeyMouse418]

If a performer cannot take reaction like that she should NOT be on the stage, I don't care how old she is. Everyone disagrees that Simon says they're too young but then we're told "he's only 16, poor baby" "she's only 17, how do you expect her to act?" Show business is tough. If you cannot handle it there are many other careers.

Even if you are an experienced professional, it still doesn't feel too great when you get booed or otherwise disrespected. Even though Jasmine may not have deserved to be up there, the voting isnt always fair because people vote for who they want to see win, not always who they think is the most talented. I give them all credit for trying so hard and for getting up on that stage every week to sing in front of millions of people. It's not an easy thing. Yes, LaToya may have been much better than Jasmine, but still nobody deserves that kind of disrespect. And I think Jasmine has every right to smile. She thought she was going to be the one going home, and she was obviously relieved. And as many others said, she has no control over how people vote

 

[Carolyn UK]

I only watched the show last nite - nearly didn't watch the results as I thought it would be a foregone conclusion Jasmine would leave.

I thought Diana really stepped up a gear so decided to see who would be in bottom 2.

I cannot believe the result and then the booing started. I think they WERE booing the vote, not Jasmine personally.

I felt so sorry for Latoya, marginally sorry for Jasmine.

Its just called Pop Idol here and trust me, there HAVE been controversial results but none can compare with this.

I will rely on you guys now (the ones still watching, that is LOL) to get the results before its screened over here.

Caz

 

[Robinrs]

Wow, that news report explains it.

It looks to me like she just may win it in that case.

I can't help but think that this thing will be split down cultural lines now. Hardly a sign of talent, just loyalty. Too bad.

 

[ShuisFan584]

About the vote totals, I saw these on another board, but I don't know how accurate they are.

East/ Central/ Mountain/ West/ Hawaii/

Jasmine 1.824/ 0.978/ 0.576/ 1.387/ 1.04
5.805

LaToya 1.879/ 1.024/ 0.687/ 1.772/ 0.111
5.473

Fantasia 1.886/ 1.004/ 0.689/ 1.728/ 0.189
5.476

Diana 2.001/ 0.987/ 0.702/ 1.725/ 0.184
5.599

 

[damo]

That's interesting.

East voted:
Diana, Fantasia, La Toya, Jasmine

Central Voted:
La Toya, Fantasia, Diana, Jasmine

Mountain Voted:
Diana, Fantasia, La Toya Jasmine

West Voted:
La Toya, Fantasia, Diana, Jasmine

Hawaii Voted:
Jasmine, Fantasia, Diana, La Toya

However, the margin of votes was so close that the huge sweep in Hawaii made the difference. Hawaii still doesn't have nearly as many votes as the other regions. If one of the other contestants would have broken out in another region, the results would have been different.

The West has 33.5% of the votes, Central has 18.63% of the votes, Mountain has 11.75%, West has 29.27 and Hawaii has 6.74% of the votes.

More people in the East and West voted for Jasmine than in Hawaii.

 

[momm2four]

This may have already been said, but in my opinion, LaToya was let go this week, because she didn't connect with her audience like the others. Just about everyone will say she's the best singer, and I totally agree with that. However, there was just nothing there to inspire me to stop what I was doing and vote for her.

I think that people must form some connection with a performer in order to faithfully vote over and over again. I think Simon's comments to Jasmine have made a lot of people develop a soft spot for her, not to mention people who are devoted to her b/c of her Hawaiian connection.

Diana seems to have some huge loyal fan base. She has personality (almost too much of it) and has really improved in the last few weeks. Fantasia can sing and she connects with her audience, so she also inspires a loyalty in voting.

After George left, I pretty much quit voting b/c he was about the only one I made a point to vote for. I voted for him, b/c I liked his singing AND he made me like him. I think LaToya was the best, but that wasn't enough to make me spend time calling for her. I think that even Simon kept saying "We just don't know you" I know that we don't truly KNOW any of them, but the image they emit must make us feel like we know and like them.

If Jasmine wins, I don't think that would be bad. She definitely fits the IMAGE Simon keeps harping on, and studios today can make anyone sound good on a record (Not that she's a bad singer, just a little weaker than the others)

Lori P.

 

[jin diesel]

Originally posted by momm2four
If Jasmine wins, I don't think that would be bad. She definitely fits the IMAGE Simon keeps harping on, and studios today can make anyone sound good on a record (Not that she's a bad singer, just a little weaker than the others)

Your last sentence says it all: SHE IS WEAKER THAN THE OTHERS. Therefore, she doesn't deserve to win. She's only ever really performed well ONCE. And after that really great performance she kept slipping, as Diana got better & better. So at least I can understand why Diana's still in the game, but Jasmine? That's a joke.

 

[J.Cooper]

I was very upset Wednesday night with Latoya being booted off. Just fevered me. I like Jasmine, but she should've been in the bottom. She lucked out!!
I saw on Access Hollywood yesterday Latoya London being interviewed. They did explain that the people in Hawaii voted strong for Jasmine. Probably due to Simon's comment. That night they rec'd the highest number of votes from the state of Hawaii. I guess the next day was Jasmine Trias day in Honolulu. She flew in for that event Thursday. I hope someone gives Latoya a good offer. She's the strongest/best singer in this competition. I'm sorry, but I'm not a Diana fan. She's gotten better, but I can't see her as the next American Idol. I was all for Latoya!! Access Hollywood even did a online poll asking did American Idol lose it's credibility after Wednesday's upset. 90% said yes. 10% no. I really don't give a darn who wins now. My pick is gone. It's just not the same like last year with Clay and Ruben.

 

[mum4jenn]

I saw somewhere in an interview that LaToya has been offered to be the opening act for Neil Sedaka when he goes on his next tour. Maybe some might think that is not great but the man has great connections and writes great songs so he will be a big help for her.

As she said all she ever wanted was for the right people to see her and they have. She may end up having the best career out of all of them.

 

[Nancy]

Well I just got back from Disney so I had to check in here. I did get to see some of the show on Tuesday...but did not see the results show. I am surprised that LaToya is off, I thought it would be Jasmine.

I'll keep watching...I don't care one way or the other who wins now...pretty much haven't since the start of the show this year. I wouldn't buy any of their cd's!

 

[TINK61]

Oh Oh! Seems like since everyone's favorite has exited the show - no one cares anymore. Way too quiet on this thread. I thought something was wrong with my computer.

What did you think about the show last night? Anyone watched?

 

[deadheadbelle]

I didn't watch last night, but I will watch tonight (even though my favorite got the boot last week).

 

[Spinning]

I feel bad for Jasmine. I think tonight is going to be extremely hard on her. I know she isn't the most talented and last week should have been it for her but boy the bashing she has been getting on the local radio shows.....