Occupancy question

[Cj2017]

I'm booking 1 - 2 Bedroom villa and 1 studio room at Animal Kingdom lodge. Occupancy is 9 people in the 2 bedroom and 4 in the other. We have a total of 13 people staying between the two rooms. Is it frowned upon if I have 10 people sleep in the 2 bedroom and 3 in the studio?

 

[Hopefully]

I'm booking 1 - 2 Bedroom villa and 1 studio room at Animal Kingdom lodge. Occupancy is 9 people in the 2 bedroom and 4 in the other. We have a total of 13 people staying between the two rooms. Is it frowned upon if I have 10 people sleep in the 2 bedroom and 3 in the studio?

Yes. What are the sleep surfaces in the2 br.
Occupancy is governed by fire codes, not money

 

[Carol_]

Literally no one is counting (barring a fire catastrophe.)

 

[Cj2017]

Literally no one is counting (barring a fire catastrophe.)

I guess I'm worried of someone with Mickey mouse badge showing up

 

[maxiesmom]

You will be over occupancy. But you probably won't get caught. On the outside chance you do, simply move one person to the other room.

Just so you are aware, Disney would be within their rights to boot the 10 people from their property. Or make you pay rack rate for another room. It is unlikely that will happen, but just so you are aware.

 

[ellbell]

Someone staying in the 2 bedroom wouldn't have a key

 

[Polydweller]

Whether you can get away with it or not is not the issue. The issue is safety in an emergency. As a hotelier that’s my biggest concern, not the money. In an emergency you have far less time to get out than you think, 90 seconds max is the standard. Some of that is determined by fumes and smoke which arrive much earlier than flame and can incapacitate in seconds. Very low probability sure, but huge implications if an emergency occurs.

Occupancy rates are set by fire codes and are there for a reason. Don’t take the risk and follow the codes.

 

[laughinplace199]

Where will the 10th person sleep? I think you'll have 3 beds, a sleep sofa, and a sleep chair, which would accommodate 9 people. Are there any babies in your group?

 

[cvjw]

Someone staying in the 2 bedroom wouldn't have a key

My party of 7 routinely book a 2 bedroom and a studio. We always request extra key cards so that the guests in the studio can have access to the 2 bedroom for meals and laundry. It has never been an issue getting extra key cards.

That being said, I would hate to put 10 people in an AKL 2 bedroom. Talk about crowded - you couldn‘t pay me to stay with that many people in that small a space.

 

[Cj2017]

We decided to just put everyone in studios lol. I wasn't sure if the fire code was for hotel overall or room specific, but all that makes sense.

 

[Disneypro1]

Literally no one is counting (barring a fire catastrophe.)

This.

 

[Disneypro1]

I guess I'm worried of someone with Mickey mouse badge showing up

Not going to happen.

 

[disneydreamer1980]

We travel as a group of 9 and the last 2 trips have done 2 DVC Poly studios, 5 in one and 4 in the other. Several nights during both trips an extra kid would wanna squeeze in the other room, leaving 6 (one above capacity) in the one studio. No one ever noticed or said anything.

 

[cobright]

I'm booking 1 - 2 Bedroom villa and 1 studio room at Animal Kingdom lodge. Occupancy is 9 people in the 2 bedroom and 4 in the other. We have a total of 13 people staying between the two rooms. Is it frowned upon if I have 10 people sleep in the 2 bedroom and 3 in the studio?

Disney doesn't really care if you shift a person from one room to another. If this creates a noise violation they will cite the booked occupancy limits as a reason to move that person back to the other room... or boot you entirely. But really, no one's going to notice.

Occupancy is governed by fire codes, not money

Sortof. The building codes and Fire Marshal (or equiv) inspection establish a maximum occupant load for each dwelling unit. The property can post and enforce any maximum occupancy less than this they like. Almost universal is a 5 person limit for a 300 sq.ft. Hotel Room plus 5 persons for each adjoining bedroom. A 2 BR AKL villa has 3 times or more the area of a standard room and could easily support a max occ of 12-15.

Consider POR, every room is the same 314 sq.ft. as a standard AKL room. If that room only has a king bed, occupancy is set at 2 people. If you put two queens in that room, occupancy increases to 4 people even though the open floor space is decreased. Add yet one more obstacle to egress, a sofa bed, and occupancy can increase again to 5 adults. The more barriers to exiting the room, the more people it's rated for. Examples of this in most resorts, POR is just handy for me atm.

Property owners can actually request a higher max occupancy limit for any space as long as egress methods support that number. Consider that for fully enclosed hotels each building has 2 or 3 double doors as egress. Each Building constitutes about 100 units, occupied by 2-4 people each. Building Egress requirements for 400 people is six 36" doors. It's not as simple as that but this does illustrate the scale we're looking at.

Getting 10 people out of a room through one of those is not going to be significantly less safe than 9 people. And if the 2BR suite is at Jambo or a 2BR lockout at Kidani then there are 2 egress doors for the suite.

 

[jo-jo]

We decided to just put everyone in studios lol. I wasn't sure if the fire code was for hotel overall or room specific, but all that makes sense.

Are you doing three studios? We did a trip with 12 (one turned 3 on trip) with a 2 bedroom and a studio, so no issues with the numbers, but we really made use of the kitchen and washer/dryer. I would sorely missed those items with a flock of kids.

 

[Deb & Bill]

It's not so much the space in the room, but the space in the corridor and the width of the exits, including the width of the stairwells and the number of people who will exit via that corridor and exit door or exit stairwell.. Some of the units at AKV/AKL exit to people pens which would tend to limit the number of evacuees even more.