Obama 'to reverse stem cell ban'

[Disneylover 2]

Why doesn't he work through scientists to save lives then?

I don't know how to explain. But I'll try my best.


God does work through scientists to save people's lives. But when scientists work on something that is against, him then the scientists are basically on their own. Well, I did my best trying to explain this. I'm sorry if I confused anyone.

 

[DramaQueen]

I don't know how to explain. But I'll try my best.


God does work through scientists to save people's lives. But when scientists work on something that is against, him then the scientists are basically on their own. Well, I did my best trying to explain this. I'm sorry if I confused anyone.

Thank you for explaining. I appreciate it.
I'm still a bit confused though.
I just don't know where the line is...how do we know if a scientist is working through God or going against God?
Maybe God is using scientists to save lives in the case of stem cell research?
Maybe God is trying to put embryos that did not survive to good use and save lives using scientists that way?

Just trying to rationalize.

 

[BabyPiglet]

Man, you guys just don't get it. And Sonya, being a hematologist does not defy the will of God.

God works through doctors to save lives.(< understand?)

Wanda is NOT being prejudice.

So why isn't god working through scientists to help save lives through stem cell research?

How can a scientist presume what is and isn't right?

 

[Disneylover 2]

Thank you for explaining. I appreciate it.
I'm still a bit confused though.
I just don't know where the line is...how do we know if a scientist is working through God or going against God?
Maybe God is using scientists to save lives in the case of stem cell research?
Maybe God is trying to put embryos that did not survive to good use and save lives using scientists that way?

Just trying to rationalize.

Stem cell research:

The pro-life movement generally believes that this happens at, or shortly after, conception. Thus, they consider the removal of stem cells from an embryo -- a procedure which kills the stem cells -- to be a form of murder of a human being.


So it's murder. And one of the commandments is Do Not Murder. So it's against God so how can he support it.

Get it now?

 

[imabrat]

Man, you guys just don't get it. And Sonya, being a hematologist does not defy the will of God.

God works through doctors to save lives.(< understand?)

Wanda is NOT being prejudice.

Then what is God's Will in the context of diseases?

 

[imabrat]

Stem cell research:

The pro-life movement generally believes that this happens at, or shortly after, conception. Thus, they consider the removal of stem cells from an embryo -- a procedure which kills the stem cells -- to be a form of murder of a human being.


So it's murder. And one of the commandments is Do Not Murder. So it's against God so how can he support it.

Get it now?

Dear Gawd, must I keep beating this dead horse?

THE CELLS WERE GOING TO BE KILLED WHETHER WE LIKED IT OR NOT. THEY HAD NO CHANCE OF SURVIVING. THEY WERE USELESS.
Stem cell researchers ARE NOT MURDERERS. The murderer would be the MOTHER.

 

[Disneylover 2]

Then what is God's Will in the context of diseases?

umm, i don't understand the question. can u rephrase it?

 

[imabrat]

umm, i don't understand the question. can u rephrase it?

Wanda said "accepting God's Will isn't easy". As in, accepting that God wants you dead because you have cnacer isn't easy.
Then you go on to say that doctors aren't defying God's Will when they give you chemo, instead of letting you die "like God wanted".

I'm perplexed?

 

[Disneylover 2]

Dear Gawd, must I keep beating this dead horse?

THE CELLS WERE GOING TO BE KILLED WHETHER WE LIKED IT OR NOT. THEY HAD NO CHANCE OF SURVIVING. THEY WERE USELESS.
Stem cell researchers ARE NOT MURDERERS. The murderer would be the MOTHER.

the OP's original post was: "thoughts?"

And I stated mine, and why. And why are you guys telling me I'm wrong when it was my thought, not yours?

 

[Babyjustrun]

the OP's original post was: "thoughts?"

And I stated mine, and why. And why are you guys telling me I'm wrong when it was my thought, not yours?

The only thing we were stating that was wrong about your opinion is you seem to be highly unaware that the embryo wasn't gonna live in the first place. It was gonna be thrown away, not used for anything.
Either way it dies. It's just that one of the ways it's dying, it could possibly save other people. A lot of people.

 

[Disneylover 2]

Wanda said "accepting God's Will isn't easy". As in, accepting that God wants you dead because you have cnacer isn't easy.
Then you go on to say that doctors aren't defying God's Will when they give you chemo, instead of letting you die "like God wanted".

I'm perplexed?

Man, when will you ever get it!

God doesn;t want you dead just because you got this disease. He has a purpose for you got it. He has a plan for you.
God works throught those doctors(or uses doctors) to give you chemo.


*cough* Only true believers will understand what I'm saying *cough*

 

[imabrat]

the OP's original post was: "thoughts?"

And I stated mine, and why. And why are you guys telling me I'm wrong when it was my thought, not yours?

Because you're forming an opinion when you're terribly misinformed.

 

[imabrat]

Man, when will you ever get it!

God doesn;t want you dead just because you got this disease. He has a purpose for you got it. He has a plan for you.
God works throught those doctors(or uses doctors) to give you chemo.


*cough* Only true believers will understand what I'm saying *cough*

Very mature. FYI, I do believe fully in God and in Jesus Christ. I do not believe in most of the bible for editing reasons.


Okay, I think I might understand. So, like I want to be a nurse. If I hadn't go sick, I would've never wanted to be a nurse. Is that what you mean by God's Plan?

 

[ohdisco]

...You realize that they don't use aborted embryos, but use embryos created by doing basically in vitro fertilization, right? They're growing the embryos for a couple days and then taking the stem cells out of them.

As someone living with a form of Muscular Dystrophy, I'm taking the smart way to look at this and giving Obama a "hoorah!".

 

[PigletGurl]

...You realize that they don't use aborted embryos, but use embryos created by doing basically in vitro fertilization, right? They're growing the embryos for a couple days and then taking the stem cells out of them.

As someone living with a form of Muscular Dystrophy, I'm taking the smart way to look at this and giving Obama a "hoorah!".

Murder.

 

[princesskelz]

Murder.

so if you got a disease that could be cured with Stem Cells your telling me you rather die

thats stupid.

 

[ohdisco]

Man, when will you ever get it!

God doesn;t want you dead just because you got this disease. He has a purpose for you got it. He has a plan for you.
God works throught those doctors(or uses doctors) to give you chemo.


*cough* Only true believers will understand what I'm saying *cough*

Do you believe in predestination? If you don't believe in predestination, I don't see how you can believe in fate.

Diseases are created by genetic mutation (aka a FLAW). I would hope God isn't as cruel as to base someone's life around a flaw HE created (if you do so believe he has a plan for all of us).

 

[Disneylover 2]

Very mature. FYI, I do believe fully in God and in Jesus Christ. I do not believe in most of the bible for editing reasons.


Okay, I think I might understand. So, like I want to be a nurse. If I hadn't go sick, I would've never wanted to be a nurse. Is that what you mean by God's Plan?

Yes, that's what I mean.

Any maybe when you're a nurse, you'll save someone's life.

 

[PigletGurl]

so if you got a disease that could be cured with Stem Cells your telling me you rather die

thats stupid.

I'm not afraid to die. At least I know where I will go.

 

[PigletGurl]

Do you believe in predestination? If you don't believe in predestination, I don't see how you can believe in fate.

Diseases are created by genetic mutation (aka a FLAW). I would hope God isn't as cruel as to base someone's life around a flaw HE created (if you do so believe he has a plan for all of us).

God didn't create diseases. Satan did. It's our punishment for the original sin.