November/December WISH Walkers and Runners Training Thread

[jmasgat]

Tandy Congrats on your 20-miler. Glad to hear it went well--that is a big deal (my first one was awful!)

Tricia Good to "see" you. And if mixing training plans works for you (without injury/overdoing it) then great! I was reading Mark Bittman's blog on Runners World about how he followed a plan religiously and felt at some point it was too much for him yet he didn't change. He wishes he had done otherwise.

John My hat is tipped to anyone who does Goofy--haven't met that challenge yet.

Slug state for me--coming east always does that. Will attempt to remedy.

I read the following on Runner's World about an elite Canadian racer at last week's NYC marathon.

"But Bairu believes he made a mistake by not taking enough carbohydrate gels during the race, and past the 22-mile mark "my head got light, and it was almost like a drunken stumble," he recounts. "I was conscious, but I wasn’t in (the race). The next thing I knew, I was on the ground and my legs were just shaking uncontrollably. They were just twitching."

Just goes to show that even the elites do stuff wrong at races. And why a good fueling/hydration strategy is just as important as putting in the miles. I made sure I focused on this for my last marathon and believe it helped me finish well.

Maura

 

[jblrn2b]

Ok so a novice compared to you all - is it ok if I join. My "hard run or long run" is a 4 mile - but I started walk/run in Sept d/t getting on the scale(lol). And my goal is the Princess 5k in February. I am really liking the running though.

My training schedule is a little odd because I work nights/eves and have to fit it in - sometimes days in a row. Monday -off. Tues 4, Wednes 3, Today 4, tomorrow Gym but then off until Monday. So far have lost 15 lbs and feel great.

Anybody do a strange schedule like me?

 

[Tiger Lily 03]

Hi to everyone! It has been beautiful here this week and as Frank mentioned shorts and t-shirts for wear. I love it out here when it is in the 40-50 range. Training is going a bit slower than I'd like, but at least I'm getting the steps slow and steady.

Glad to see everyone here and welcome to the new members!

Jb, As for erratic schedules and fitting in the training, I think you are doing great! You even have a schedule and that is a great plan. Even if you need to tweak it sometimes, at least it is a good frame. You can do it!

 

[TnTsParty]

Thanks Maura - I definately aren't overdoing it - maybe even under-doing it but I am confident I will make it through Goofy again this year. And without injury (knock on wood) I actually have been very fortunate and not had many injuries due to running/walking. Probably due to my under-doing training while still hitting all the long run mile stones along the way. I would prefer to still be able to walk around Disney after I am done LOL.

JB - welcome to the group - it doesn't matter if you have done this for years or just started as long as you are moving. And don't worry about the wierd schedule - I have a wierd training schedule as well and most of the time I only end up getting the long run in on Sunday's - not the way I would suggest to train for anyone but it works for me so whatever works for you is a plus.

 

[goofyinohio]

Hello everyone! Been a bit since I've been into the monthly thread. How's it going?

I'm currently in a Maintenance type mode for the half in January. Looking forward to the Holidays without the crazy training of the Marathon/Goofy. Been a few years for that.

Welcome to all the new WISH members. It's great to see new people joining us!

 

[geaux_half]

I got my MRI results today; it shows a tear on the medial head of the gastroc muscle which is the inside middle part of the lower leg aka my right calf muscle. I've been told no running for 6 weeks and I'll probably have to wear a boot as walking has been painful the past week.

The bad news (aside from the tear) is that I'm going to have my first 1/2 marathon DNS this Sunday in San Antonio. I will be making the short trip to SA as a spectator as several of my running buddies are doing either the full or half. The good news is that my next race isn't until the end of February in Austin.

 

[Grammie3]

Another new entry into the walking/running world. Although, I have been involved in another sport in the past, rowing and sculling, so training and workout plans for an event is not really a new concept for me. I totally understand the split times and pace setting, only thing now I don't have to carry all that equipment and put it in the water!

Because of a knee injury that occurred last year I was told not to do anything that required squats, and if you know anything about rowing and sculling your pushing back with your feet, knees bent and into fully extended legs while you are using the oars in the water. So, I an not going to try to row, atleast not for now.

My ortho told me walking was good for my condition in my knee. So, here I am I started by doing interval walking, and still doing that with some running added in. I plan to up the ante and run a bit more, but now I have developed Plantar Fascitis in my left foot and I am trying to get it to ease off. So, I have had to interrupt my training for a couple of weeks.

This is givng me some time to do some preparations though and get things set up, I have signed up for the 5k at the Princess as I wanted to have a goal to work toward.

I have been enjoying reading everyone's posts and that is really helping me to be more motivated.

Cindy

 

[John VN]

Another new entry into the walking/running world. Although, I have been involved in another sport in the past, rowing and sculling, so training and workout plans for an event is not really a new concept for me. I totally understand the split times and pace setting, only thing now I don't have to carry all that equipment and put it in the water!

Because of a knee injury that occurred last year I was told not to do anything that required squats, and if you know anything about rowing and sculling your pushing back with your feet, knees bent and into fully extended legs while you are using the oars in the water. So, I an not going to try to row, atleast not for now.

My ortho told me walking was good for my condition in my knee. So, here I am I started by doing interval walking, and still doing that with some running added in. I plan to up the ante and run a bit more, but now I have developed Plantar Fascitis in my left foot and I am trying to get it to ease off. So, I have had to interrupt my training for a couple of weeks.

This is givng me some time to do some preparations though and get things set up, I have signed up for the 5k at the Princess as I wanted to have a goal to work toward.

I have been enjoying reading everyone's posts and that is really helping me to be more motivated.

Cindy

Sorry to read about your problems but glad to see you joining the group.

My knee problems rules out jogging or running, also ortho's orders but not bicycling or speed walking. I follow Danny Dryer's Chi Walking style. This style has you landing mid foot so heel impact problems is a thing of the past along with many other injuries resulting from jogging or running.

This weekend I am doing a self imposed mini Goofy+. On Thurday I went for a hard 66 mile bicycle ride, the + part. Yesterday I walked 3.2 miles and this morning I walked 7.2 miles. Tomorrow morning I will complete 14 miles.

By utilizing the Chi Method I am currently finding it comfortable walking in the 11:00 to 12:00 mm pace. I know this is not the running pace so many seem to desire but to do so without injury is fine with me. My best pace so far was in the 2nd leg of the W&D last month, 9:36mm overall for the 8.3 miles.

I find it very challenging having the short stride rapid turn-over required to keep the speed up while Chi Walking. If you would like to go faster, Danny has a book on Chi Running.

Good luck.

 

[FFigawi]

I got my MRI results today; it shows a tear on the medial head of the gastroc muscle which is the inside middle part of the lower leg aka my right calf muscle. I've been told no running for 6 weeks and I'll probably have to wear a boot as walking has been painful the past week.

The bad news (aside from the tear) is that I'm going to have my first 1/2 marathon DNS this Sunday in San Antonio. I will be making the short trip to SA as a spectator as several of my running buddies are doing either the full or half. The good news is that my next race isn't until the end of February in Austin.

Sorry to hear about your injury. I hope it heals quickly and you're able to get back out training for Austin. I'll wave to you as I run by in San Antonio.

 

[geaux_half]

Sorry to hear about your injury. I hope it heals quickly and you're able to get back out training for Austin. I'll wave to you as I run by in San Antonio.

Thanks John. Will you be in your DL 1/2 gear for this one? I'll be wearing a bright gold shirt that I got at a Wyoming 1/2 earlier this year. I'm a terrible spectator.....have a hard time spotting runners.

 

[MikeofRose&Mike]

I plan to up the ante and run a bit more, but now I have developed Plantar Fascitis in my left foot and I am trying to get it to ease off. So, I have had to interrupt my training for a couple of weeks.

I highly recommend "The stick" for rolling out your calves. That gets to the plannar where it starts.

 

[Pumbaa80]

By utilizing the Chi Method I am currently finding it comfortable walking in the 11:00 to 12:00 mm pace. I know this is not the running pace so many seem to desire but to do so without injury is fine with me. My best pace so far was in the 2nd leg of the W&D last month, 9:36mm overall for the 8.3 miles.
Good luck.

Last night I was playing around with my intervals and did a .25/.25. I was trying to keep a good pace walking, but was often in the 16-18 mm range. The fact you can walk confortably at 11-12 is great! I might have to read the book you recommended!!

 

[FireDancer]

Jackie- Thank God for race amnesia or many of us would have quit long ago. I looked at that Monumental Marathon for the half when I was debating adding one more fall half to the training but ended up passing.

Tandy- Congratulations on the 20 miler. That is an important training milestone. I'm slowly working my way there but my first 20 miler isn't scheduled until 12/5.

Tricia- Gotta take the cooler days when you can get them down there. We are getting to the time of the year up here that we are looking for the warmer days. I can't complain though, it has been the best November I can remember in my life so I can't complain.

JB- All are welcome but I don't have any advise on the off schedule other than get in the runs and distances you can, even if it is a run down the street and back.

Pat- Sorry to hear about the injury and DNS. Hopefully you will get recovered and back out soon.

Cindy- Welcome

I just got back from an 8 miler (8.06 actually) which brings my weekly total to 35. It is the most I've done in a week ever which probably speaks to why my first full wasn't stellar. Next week will be my first 40+ week. The legs are holding up and my times are consistent. I did the exact same run today and Wednesday and ran 55:57 and 56:01. The weather has been unbelievable for Cleveland in November so the winter running gear is still in mothballs.

I hope everyone who is uninjured stays that way and those that are get back soon.

 

[TEK224]

Pat - Sorry to hear about the calf issue. Being on injured reserve really stinks!

Cindy - Welcome!

Frank - Great job on the mileage! I'm so jealous right now

As for me - I have a follow-up with my ortho next week. My PT recommended accupuncture. Has anyone here ever done that before? The thought of little needles sticking in my body, gives me the shivers (I'm a big baby when it comes to needles.) I may give it a try, though, if they think it'll help me heal quicker.

Terri

 

[mermaid&cinderella]

OMG I so need some motivation. Ran my last race last week.....didn't do anything this week exercise wise since Ive been so busy with work and organizing my daughters two bday parties for this weekend, I ate too much this weekend , I feel horrible.......so need to get back into my regular workout plan this week. Anyone else in the same boat?

 

[jblrn2b]

OMG I so need some motivation. Ran my last race last week.....didn't do anything this week exercise wise since Ive been so busy with work and organizing my daughters two bday parties for this weekend, I ate too much this weekend , I feel horrible.......so need to get back into my regular workout plan this week. Anyone else in the same boat?

Life is so busy isn't it!!! - know how it is. Pop Warner Football has taken over our house - LOL. We are Eastern Mass. Champs though!!!! Play CT Sunday!

Don't beat yourself up. You ran a race that's awesome! Can't wait till I can say that.

I ran 15 miles last week. Can't believe I can say that! I am not running today have recertification class today (PALS - for those medical people out there). But plan to run/workout Tues/wed/thur/fri.

I am going to try to run 5 miles at least once this week - my goal this wk.

Thanks for those encouraging words!

 

[jmasgat]

Back from MA and 2 trips to Farnhams for fried clams (YUM!). Needless to say, gotta get back to the gym!


Welcome to our newest members--I lose track of who I have said welcome to already, so I'll just say it again!

Pat Sorry to hear about your injury and hope you heal quickly. Hope you find some XT that keeps you going for the next 6 weeks.

Chris Hope your maintenance mode is going well. I find it a little hard to decide what to do during this time (til beginning of next year).

Frank What plan are you following? I also did a more aggressive plan for my recent full. I guess the extra miles really do help (that and running 5-20 milers!) Never would have thought that I would have made it through without injury, but I did. So sounds like your training will bode well for your full. We will now expect great things from you (well-actually we already do!)

Maura

 

[FireDancer]

Frank What plan are you following? I also did a more aggressive plan for my recent full. I guess the extra miles really do help (that and running 5-20 milers!) Never would have thought that I would have made it through without injury, but I did. So sounds like your training will bode well for your full. We will now expect great things from you (well-actually we already do!)

Maura

I am using Hal Higdon's Intermediate I plan. It increases its mileage gradually enough that I don't feel like I'm going to get injured. I made the mistake last time of concentrating on my long run and not on my total mileage which is why I am being better about sticking to the plan this time.

 

[FFigawi]

Thanks John. Will you be in your DL 1/2 gear for this one? I'll be wearing a bright gold shirt that I got at a Wyoming 1/2 earlier this year. I'm a terrible spectator.....have a hard time spotting runners.

No, I skipped the costume for this one, so I'm pretty sure we didn't see each other. I'm glad you came out to watch. That wasn't the best weather for standing around in, and I'm sure your friends appreciated you being there. Even though my time was okay (4:12), my race wasn't all that great. I had really severe cramps that locked up my leg a few times and made me step really gingerly for the last few miles. Still, at least I didn't get stuck at the train like the people who started in the first few corrals.

 

[DianeL]

Been sick but am totally better now But not running/exercising while sick was rather depressing so I really wasn't fit company. Whining and crabby LOL

A quick scan and I need to look back over the rest of the posts....

Sarah Rose : Love the dog story. I love running with my dog (though there are times you wouldn't know it like the other night LOL)

Chris : Dude! Why is it I thought you were signed up for the Marathon? I totally must have read your post while you were at the Wine/Dine weekend. So I can truly now call you DonaldinOhio?

Pat (geaux_half) ... Very sorry to hear about your DNS and injury. Hoping your feeling better soonest!

Friday Night: 3 miles
Saturday evening: 10 miles (slow! 6.4 with the DH and 3.6 with dog which weren't in synch!)

Sunday: raking leaves! That counts as cross training, I think Lily said so and I'm going with it LMBO

Monday: Gym!!!! FINALLY! 2 miles on the TM doing some work on speed. 2.35 miles on the Ellip.(UGH! I hate that thing!) and the upper body machines. Tired but felt good. Feeling good today still.

Tonight: hoping for no rain but if it does hoping it's at least a light one. Suppose to run and this fall the TM for anything more than the 1/2 hour is driving me nuts.

Have a great week!!!!