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[Sherry E]

Thanks Sherry. I would never steal someones picture for use like that. I try and take tons of pictures myself and will always share them when asked but Until asked they are my creative output. I am still working my way through your trip report. I love all of the detailed pictures you took because of your quests. I am going to pm you my e-mail address because when I try and save the picture it comes through as a very small file and I would love the higher quality one to use for this. Thank you again and Thanks for righting your trip report. My wife and I are enjoying seeing what we have to look forward to on the Disneyland part of our trip!

Jason

Jason - You're welcome! I e-mailed the photo to you!

Thank you for taking the time to make your way through the trip report - this past one was a lot longer than the ones I normally do. Just a few days at Disneyland seemed to go on for pages and pages and pages and pages (but lots of photos, so hopefully that made up for it). Yes, there were many quests! And in the process of pursuing the Quests, I noticed lots of things I might not normally see. Lots of details. There are so many more things to see, too. I don't think any of us ever capture everything.

When are you and your wife going to be visiting Disneyland? Summer? I hope you guys have a wonderful time!

 

[katman2540]

Yes our road trip has us leaving July 1st. We should get to DL sometime around July 7th. We will be there for just a couple of days before continuing on around the country. I hope gas doesnt shoot up to much before then.

 

[bumbershoot]

Given some bad luck I've recently had with people stealing hundreds of my photos and doing what they wanted with them on the Internet -

Holy moly, whaaaaa?



I finished up the calendar. It was fun, but it made me wish I had a HUGE monitor so I could see what it would look like at 12x12.

 

[Sherry E]

Yes our road trip has us leaving July 1st. We should get to DL sometime around July 7th. We will be there for just a couple of days before continuing on around the country. I hope gas doesnt shoot up to much before then.

Jason - The way the gas prices are looking right now, it's pretty grim! But maybe they won't be as hideous by the time July gets here. Road trips are too fun to miss out on!

Again, I really appreciate that you found and followed my trip report - there are so many great ones out there to follow.

Holy moly, whaaaaa?

I finished up the calendar. It was fun, but it made me wish I had a HUGE monitor so I could see what it would look like at 12x12.

Molly - I thought I mentioned that debacle to you last year. Some friend of a friend of a friend on Facebook (someone who I had never heard of before and who was NOT on my Friend list) got into my photo albums and decided to swipe a couple hundred of my old Poison photos...which I was sharing with only the people on my Friend list (and I keep that number fairly low for a reason - so I know who everyone is!) because they were people I knew back in the day when they worked for Bret & Co. too (they were old Poison road crew guys that lived with the boys during the lean years or they were other friends I made through those people). This idiot got hold of them and decided he liked them and couldn't keep them to himself.

Honestly, it boils my blood to think of that whole episode, so I will quickly change the subject before I go hurling something out a window.

Have you received your calendar yet, Molly? If so, do you like it? I know you've had a lot on your mind with your brother and all, so I'm surprised you were able to finish it up at all.

I'll be interested to hear what you think of your calendar. So far, I like both of mine. Mariezp likes hers. Tksbaskets likes hers. Funatdisney/Liza likes it well enough but the quality of the photos wasn't good in her calendar.

And deejdigsdis is still waiting on her calendar, so we don't have that verdict yet.

I'm not sure if Michele/kaoden39 ordered 2 calendars or only one, and last I heard, Tania/Tdashgirl was loading photos to Snapfish at the last minute to whip up a calendar.

I don't think Jazz/Belle Ella ever ended up making a calendar.



Anyone else out there order one?? I have to say that Snapfish did a good job of luring me in with the free deal. That's the way to do it to get new clients. Offer a good product for free - or for an extremely discounted price - and then you entice people to want to actually pay for that same product again in the future.

Now that I've seen what a good quality & size calendar it is, and how you can add in tiny photos on the actual date/reminder pages(which I didn't do for either if mine), I might actually order another one for 2012 at full price (depends on what sorts of photos I take this year). I think it's a much better calendar than the Shutterfly one I got last year.


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So....here is a little bit of a DLR trip update!!

First of all, my friend was saying the other day that she wanted to bring her son to DLR for a day in early April. I told her that she will not be able to see all the things she wants to see (for her son) in one day - especially since she is not willing to get up early and get to the park when it opens. You can't walk into Disneyland at 12 p.m., expecting to leave/go home at 6 p.m. or 7 p.m., and do everything in Fantasyland, everything in A Bug's Land, Monster's, Inc. TSMM, Animation Building, King Triton's Carousel, ToonTown, Jungle Cruise, BLAB, meet characters, buy a Duffy, etc. It just won't happen. You need to stay overnight and add another day to the trip, and/or you need to be willing to get to DL when it opens.

So I think I talked my friend out of going to DLR for that day trip. I told her that, honestly, unless she was getting free tickets, I didn't think it would be worth it to try for her son's first DLR trip. He will see lots of stuff that excites him, most likely, and there won't be enough time for it all.

As for me - it's now March. In six months, Halloween Time will start. On which date it will start, we don't yet know. But it will be in September. And 6 months will fly by.

I have to start thinking about what I want to do for Halloween at DLR, and how it will impact a Christmas trip. As everyone knows who has been following along with my ongoing TR from the beginning, I don't go to DLR often at all, and my trips are very non-spontaneous most of the time. Because of money and transportation issues and wishy-washy friends, the trips have to be planned or at least thought about way in advance.

As everyone also knows, the holiday season at DLR is my favorite and, thus, my priority. So I really think I should use my free night at the Paradise Pier Hotel and the $99 per night rate for a holiday trip - hopefully one that is a bit longer than last year's trip. Even if I make it 4 nights instead of 3, I think I need something longer.

I cannot guarantee that I will nab any other kind of good discount for a DLR hotel like I did last year. I don't even know if I will be renewing the AP when it expires in November. And if I do, there's no telling if there will be any "good" AP rates for any of the DLR hotels in December. So this Free Night/$99 per night deal may be the best thing I get for the whole year, and I feel like I should use it for a December trip.

The dilemma is that I would like to do the Halloween party this year. It makes sense to have a hotel room to stay in that night. But I don't need to really do 3 nights or 4 nights for Halloween Time if money is not flowing. And I don't want to waste money on mone night in any hotel (even HoJo's) if it's not mandatory.

So I have to start really looking at the calendar and thinking about which dates I have in mind for Halloween Time and Christmas time and start working towards a goal of making those dates.



I decided that this weekend I am going to call that Special Events phone number that I have to call to make my PPH reservation. I'm going to get the scoop from them about which dates are blocked from using discounts (certain holiday periods, but when exactly is what I need to know). That will help narrow down (a little bit) which dates I can or cannot go.

I also want to find out if Special Events has any different requirements for reservations from what the other Central/Room-Only Reservations people have, i.e., do they need the entire amount of the reservation paid up front or only one night's deposit? Do they still allow the cancellation up to 5 days, prior to arrival? There were other questions I had for them too, but those will pop into mind later.

One good thing is - NO PESKY RESORT FEE ANYMORE!!!!! Parking is a separate fee, so I don't even have to add that in unless there is a car involved. BUT, in the absence of the Resort Fee, DLR may have reverted to their old ways (circa 1990's) and changed the amount they hold/block for 'incidentals.' So I have to find that out.

While I would LOVE to start hoarding Disney gift cards again to put towards a hotel room, given what I experienced on this last trip....I have to admit...I am gun shy. It seems like the simple act of paying for part of my hotel reservation in gift cards set the whole snowball in motion and caused the huge mess of them putting a hold on almost $300 of my money without telling me.

So I probably will continue hoarding gift cards...but maybe I will instead save them for food and other stuff. Honestly, I wish it wasn't so tricky to apply them towards hotel rooms because I would rather do that. It's easier for me to set aside money in gift cards than it is to set aside cash and hang on to it until reservation time. But it is unlikely that I would be able to pay for the entire reservation (4 nights, 5 nights or whatever I end up choosing) at the time of booking, so inevitably something would have to be paid at a later date.

 

[kaoden39]

I ended up just making the one. But that is okay. I made one from the family trip and I am making my nephew a scrapbook from the latest trip so it will be immortalized that way.

 

[bumbershoot]

Sherry is it possible to be paid by paypal from the sites you do? Then you could just hoard the cash in your paypal account? Then a week before your trip, toss it over to a bank account for use. And in that way it's not in your bank to be scavenged, but it's also not confusing matters at checkin.

 

[Sherry E]

I ended up just making the one. But that is okay. I made one from the family trip and I am making my nephew a scrapbook from the latest trip so it will be immortalized that way.

Michele - One free calendar is better than no free calendars!! I wondered if you wouldn't be able to get the second one done because of what happened with Cha Cha. Anyway, the one you did will bring you lots of smiles.

Sherry is it possible to be paid by paypal from the sites you do? Then you could just hoard the cash in your paypal account? Then a week before your trip, toss it over to a bank account for use. And in that way it's not in your bank to be scavenged, but it's also not confusing matters at checkin.

Molly - I use my PayPal account (and associated debit card) way too much for that to be off-limits from spending. In fact, I already have my AP payments deducted from that account every month, and I have to constantly remind myself of that so I don't spend the money needed for the AP payment accidentally.

The key is to get any money earned (that doesn't go for bills and groceries) converted quickly into some form that can only be used for Disney and nothing else. That's why I was able to successfully stash all that money for the hotel last year - because I got gift cards before I could do anything else with it. If I leave money sitting in PayPal for months (assuming there ever happens to be any money to leave sitting there), it's too risky. I will be too tempted to spend it or dip into it - i.e., buy extra stuff at the grocery store that maybe I don't need right that second because it's on sale for a great price and I know I will need it later. Or buy something else that I should get eventually, but don't really need immediately. I would end up spending it if it sat in PayPal for too long.

However, even if I don't stash the gift cards for hotel bill purposes - since that seemed to cause trouble at the PPH in December - I can still stash it for food or other DLR expenses, I suppose.

Actually, if what one particular CM told me is correct - and that's a big IF - certain debit cards trigger their computer system to block money on your card for longer periods of time (for the dreaded incidentals and all that business),and sometimes they block larger amounts. PayPal is one of the cards that causes their computer to put a longer-lasting hold on money and block a larger dollar amount, whereas the Disney Visa Debit is not.

So it's actually beneficial to make sure that the card they have in their system for me is the Disney Visa Debit, and try to make sure that they use that card to block any money for incidentals or room rates or whatever they do. Last time, they didn't ask me which card they could use to block, and their computer just chose the PayPal debit card because that was the last one I had made any kind of payment with. And the money was blocked for 5 full days. If they had used the Disney Visa Debit, the hold on the funds would have been released sooner, so they say.

 

[kaoden39]

That was part of it for sure. She was my baby. I have decided I don't want another bird.

 

[Sherry E]

That was part of it for sure. She was my baby. I have decided I don't want another bird.

Pets are family members. They have their own individual, unique personalities. It's hard to just go out and get a new one to replace the old one. I know that some people DO go out and instantly get new pets when they lose their old ones, but I think it's mainly to fill the huge void. Other people cannot possibly think of getting a 'new' this or that for a long, long time because it's like they are mourning the loss of their babies.

 

[kaoden39]

Pets are family members. They have their own individual, unique personalities. It's hard to just go out and get a new one to replace the old one. I know that some people DO go out and instantly get new pets when they lose their old ones, but I think it's mainly to fill the huge void. Other people cannot possibly think of getting a 'new' this or that for a long, long time because it's like they are mourning the loss of their babies.

 

[Sherry E]

Okay, as promised, I called the Special Events department of Disneyland today - which I discovered is actually called Special Activities. Why did I keep calling it Special Events?

I spoke to a lovely CM. I asked if they already have the block-out days for hotel bookings so I kind of know when NOT to book. She said no, but generally what they block in Special Activities is only the actual holidays or the heavy holiday periods. For example, she said, someone just called SA the other day with a nifty offer like what I have, and that person wanted to use their offer on Thanksgiving and over Thanksgiving weekend. Special Activities cannot accommodate that.

If I wanted to book a trip between Christmas and New Year's with my special offer, I could not do that. Not that I would choose that crazy week anyway.

The Special Activities CM said that while Central Reservations has more discounts to offer than Special Activities does, Central also has more blocked out days for the discounts. Sometimes they block large chunks of a month at a time. SA has fewer blocked days.

So that is one good bit of news. If I decided to go for an early December trip, I would be safe. Even if I went in the time frame of my last trip - December 12 - 15 - I would be covered then too.

And if I suddenly decided to use my discount for a Halloween trip instead, I would probably be covered with no problem.


The other good (I think?) thing is that, when you book through SA using a nifty discount offer, they do NOT take any money upon booking. That's right. NO one-night deposit is required!!!!! The helpful CM told me that I would not need to pay for anything until I checked-in, and then I would give them whichever card I wanted to use.

This is both a wonderful thing and a not-so-wonderful thing. While it is great for someone like yours truly - who is not rolling in cash - to be able to book something at DLR and not have to pay for any of it until arrival, at the same time I like having some of it paid in advance, or all of it paid in advance if possible. I like to get that part of it out of the way. BUT Special Activities does not take cards, so I would have no choice but to pay upon arrival.

Also, parking is included in this offer, so I am covered in that area if I have anyone with me who has a vehicle (assuming I am not totally solo).

The "free" night is totally free - meaning that they don't comp the room rate only and then still charge me 17% tax for it. The SA CM said that there is no tax or anything for that night. It's all free.

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So let's break it all down: basically, I could get 5 nights (if that's what I choose) for roughly $463 at PPH (including tax), during the holiday season, with free parking included!! And I would not have to pay one cent of it until arrival!! I can add dates, cancel dates, change the dates around or cancel the whole thing up to 5 days prior with no penalty!

True, this is not the Disneyland Hotel or the Grand Californian, which I assume many people would greatly prefer over the Paradise Pier, but...I would still get the perks of staying onsite during my favorite time of year...and for a super cheap rate!! And this is a great rate for any Disney hotel, especially since I'm sure the hotel rates will be spiking in the next year.

Could I handle 5 nights, I wonder? I've never done more than 3 nights/4 days at DLR. Would I absolutely pass out from exhaustion? Would I be MIckeyed-out by the end of the third day? Would I devote one entire day to just lolling about at the hotel, dipping my feet in the hot tub, just to kind of take a break? What sorts of photos would I be able to get during a 5 night/6 day trip? How many memory cards would I need? I did about 1600 photos in 3 nights and 3-1/2 days. Imagine the possibilities if I'm there for 5 nights and 6 days?

Hmmm..... Something to ponder.

Oh - one other interesting tidbit - the CM in Special Activities said that, even though the DLR holiday season officially begins at a certain time in November - possibly one week before Thanksgiving or 2 weeks before - they don't really 'consider' it to be the holiday season until Thanksgiving or immediately after that.

This would make sense, as those of us in the Christmas Superthread and other threads discovered last year that certain decorations and things were not even put out until after Thanksgiving (such as the decorations at the 3 DLR hotels and certain food/merchandise items).

It was rather sneaky, actually - DLR officially began its season on November 12th last year, but to experience the full holiday gamut of things, you really have to go after Thanksgiving! Some folks who have never been to DLR during the season may not know what they are missing because most of the stuff is up and out pre-Thanksgiving. But those who are regular holiday visitors know the scoop!!

In fact, I bet if they ever have a holiday party at DLR, they will have it in December and not in November.

 

[bumbershoot]

Oh, Michele, I didn't know that you had a bird and that something happened to it... When I first moved back to WA my roomie was gifted a finch. Said finch lived FAR longer than she "should" have, we started wondering if she'd been turned into a vampire at some point, and because of her very long life she made her way into the hearts of many many people. When she did finally fly off to the great beyond, it was very very sad. Poor little Betty the vampire finch... And though I don't know what happened to your birdie (ChaCha? what a cute name!), I'm sorry.

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Sherry, your post reminded me! AUGH at Chase! Have you heard that, although we are currently and for the short time being grandfathered in, Chase has officially ENDED the Disney DEBIT rewards program??? Yeah, I hadn't either. I found out from a thread on the Budget board a couple weeks ago (but refused to believe it until I called). It ended in Feb, and we'll continue to earn rewards until early July, when it ends entirely.

GRR (and I don't mean my fave water ride at DCA!).

Thought you should know, figured you didn't since you didn't mention it in your post, and GRR at them again!

I think you actually started a Chase account for this card, and the loss of this card is very likely going to cause us to get rid of Chase. If they change their relationship with Disney so they don't have ATMs at the parks anymore, there will definitely be an ending to our relationship with them.


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I'm calling "dibs" on it if you decide you want a stranger traveling companion on your first LONG stay at PPH.

 

[Sherry E]

Sherry, your post reminded me! AUGH at Chase! Have you heard that, although we are currently and for the short time being grandfathered in, Chase has officially ENDED the Disney DEBIT rewards program??? Yeah, I hadn't either. I found out from a thread on the Budget board a couple weeks ago (but refused to believe it until I called). It ended in Feb, and we'll continue to earn rewards until early July, when it ends entirely.

GRR (and I don't mean my fave water ride at DCA!).

Thought you should know, figured you didn't since you didn't mention it in your post, and GRR at them again!

I think you actually started a Chase account for this card, and the loss of this card is very likely going to cause us to get rid of Chase. If they change their relationship with Disney so they don't have ATMs at the parks anymore, there will definitely be an ending to our relationship with them.


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I'm calling "dibs" on it if you decide you want a stranger traveling companion on your first LONG stay at PPH.

WHAT?? GRRRRRRRR is right! Thank you for telling me this, Molly, because you are right - I didn't know!! I haven't received any Chase notifications about this so far. When were they going to tell us? Have you gotten something in the mail about it yet, or have you only got the confirmation on the phone so far? I wonder if they will only send out the notification in the mail (for those folks who do not belong to the DIS and don't know about it) in June or something.

The one thing I did receive from Chase was notification that they were going to start charging me a monthly fee for my (formerly free) checking account unless I meet certain monthly requirements. The fee will be $10 per month unless I meet whatever their 'free' criteria is.

I had no choice in getting a Chase account in general because I had been a WaMu customer and Chase took over for them. So, boom! I was suddenly a Chase customer.

But I absolutely DID switch my 'no annual fee' free Chase debit card to a $25 per year Disney Visa Debit card, specifically for the Rewards.

In fact, it would be time for them to charge me the $25 annual fee again - in June, I think. I wonder how they will handle it. Will they charge me $25 even though the Disney Rewards will be discontinued in July? That seems highly unfair, seeing the $25 is supposed to cover the next year from that point - not the previous year (which was already paid). Will they continue to call it a Disney Visa Debit Card...even though there will be no rewards?

I'm guessing that what they will do is try to switch me over to one of their other Chase debit cards that has an annual fee and offers rewards. The thing is, I have no desire to pay an annual fee for any DEBIT card if it is not Disney-related. The only reason I opted into that specific debit card deal is because it was Disney.

Well, I have $6 and some change currently earned in Rewards (though it has not been switched to the Rewards card yet). I guess I will just keep earning until July and then have them switch whatever the total amount is over to the Rewards card, then I'll put it towards a gift card and call it a day on that.

But I want to go back to having a free debit card - especially since I may be charged $10 per month for the stupid account.

I would bet that they'll keep the ATM's Chase-friendly in the parks if they are going to keep the Disney Visa CREDIT card accounts intact. It sounds like they are not discontinuing their relationship with Disney entirely - instead they are just punishing the debit card holders. They probably want people to be able to get cash from those credit cards, though.




I wonder if I will be able to handle a "long" stay at PPH - or at any of the hotels - or if I will be burnt out by night 3. Last time, part of the reason I enjoyed the room so much was because of the view. I doubt I'll get that lucky again - seeing that the rate is going to be lucky enough - so I wonder if I would get sick of the room after 3 nights! Ah well, as long as they don't stick me in the room with the poo water and the haunted armoire, I'm good!

Somehow, though, I feel like I will probably never again get such a good (low) rate for any of the DLR hotels - their rates will only climb to stratospheric heights in the next year as DCA transforms - and if ever I am going to attempt a "long" stay, I ought to do it while I have a low rate, don't you think? It seems like it would be silly not to.


Okay, Molly - I'll definitely put you at the top of the 'If I decide to have people with me' list!! While 5 nights/6 days of solitude might sound good in theory - and I know I can get a lot of photo-taking done by myself!!! - I might want company at some point. It is an awfully great rate that a few DIS'ers would want to take advantage of, I think! As much as I like my alone time, I almost feel like I should spread the wealth and share my good rate.

 

[kaoden39]

Actually Sherry, I would have stayed at PPH if we had gotten a good rate there and a room had been available. I don't know what happened but when we made our reservations were made there was nothing available at PPH otherwise I may very well have decided on the PPH instead of the DLH. It all had to do with the rate.

And it looks like you have a wonderful rate. Wow. I am glad to hear it. You know I think that you should enjoy that long of a trip. One thing that is nice because of the longer length of the trip you have a looser schedule you have. If you decide to have a day of just doing things around the hotels or DTD you have that luxury.

Molly, thank you. I had Cha Cha for around 3 years which isn't very long for a Sun Conure. They normally live much longer. I am not sure why she died but it was a sad event for me.

Sherry, I can imagine that between now and trip time you will have a lot of offers of trip mates.


Oh and on a side note Dina was wishing that she had brought her Disney Visa with her on the trip I am sure she is more so now.

 

[bumbershoot]

They *said* they sent something out in February. Yeah, right. I mean, the website info is still up there with nothing informing a person that it doesn't exist any longer (when I checked a few days ago)...it's just ridiculous.

She read from the info she scrounged up (when I called their customer service) and it said that the fee would be prorated depending on how long you have left in your year. We pay in August so we shouldn't be charged a thing. With you, who knows. They might charge then prorate for 11 months of no service? Or just not charge?

It's SO annoying. Robert now wants to get the Disney Visa since it still exists, but I just refuse. We have the credit union CC and that is enough. We have never once taken advantage of the character meetings etc, there's no evidence that we would do it in the future...so why bother? And it's been SUCH a pain to get the reward dollars, so the overall experience has been rather underwhelming.

 

[azdisneylover]

May I suggest a banking alternative? Perkstreet Financial. It is at perkstreet.com. There are very, very few fees, you get points per $100 dollars you spend, and you can turn that into things, like amazon gift cards for example. It is all done online too!
Back to lurking!

 

[Sherry E]

Hi, Linda! I didn't know you were still out there - I hadn't heard from you in this TR in ages. Were you lurking all through my December Peppermint Cone of Death TR?

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Arrrgggghhhhh....I hate the fact that Disney has to constantly mess with their system so that the stupid password/log-in issues resurface! I have one password and one e-mail address that I pretty much like to use for everything - so it's not like I am switching them up. Since they supposedly use your same e-mail and password for every site in their Family of Sites, it shouldn't be a problem And yet it is.

I had finally, finally gotten squared away with the right e-mail/password combo on the Disneyland website - specifically MyDisneyland (that's where I ordered all my gift cards last year and all that good stuff - with no trouble at all; I even entered my new AP number in the AP section when I got it in November).

But somewhere along the line they must have tweaked things again. Today, when I tried to log into MyDisneyland, it said that my e-mail address was associated with several different accounts!

Duh!

Of course it is associated with different accounts - because they use your same e-mail and password with all of their websites, and if you change it in one place you change it on all of them.

This time, because apparently the DLR website did not like the fact that I had several Disney-related accounts with the same info, it prompted me to go to some master page with all my accounts and deactivate all but one of them. I didn't want to do that but I did.

The main thing is that I need the Disneyland/AP/MyDisneyland account to be working.

So after I reluctantly deactivated all of the accounts they showed me BUT one, I went back to the DLR website to sign in...and it didn't accept my e-mail and password!!


Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Then I was referred to the main Disney.com page and instructed that I had to sign into that master account in order to get to my Disneyland.com/MyDisneyland account.

Finally that worked and I got into MyDisneyland. But my AP info was gone. I had to re-enter all of my preferences and AP info and all that nonsense.

Why, why, why do they make it so difficult? Again, I pretty much use the same e-mail and same password for everything. It wasn't like I was getting all jazzy with it and coming up with crazy passwords. THEY - Disney - are the ones who keep complicating things, because even though they tell you that you only need one e-mail and one password to sign into all of their sites in the FOS (Family of Sites), that's not true and they want you to deactivate all but one.

Oh, Calgon, take me away...I can't take it! It's so frustrating when you just want to log in for one minute to check something and can't because of their stupid set-up for logging in.

 

[kaoden39]

 

[jnjusoioa]

I figured I would put this post over here on your thread Sherry, hope that is ok. You all seem to all love both Halloween and Christmas, I so torn as to what time of year to go. I have been at both times of year to WDW, never to DL for either. What do you all recomend? I am just so torn.

 

[tksbaskets]

I figured I would put this post over here on your thread Sherry, hope that is ok. You all seem to all love both Halloween and Christmas, I so torn as to what time of year to go. I have been at both times of year to WDW, never to DL for either. What do you all recommend? I am just so torn.

I have had the pleasure of being at WDW and DL for both Christmas and Halloween.

Christmas at DL is very elaborate at both DL and DCA and beautiful. Halloween at DL is great at DL but not much at all in DCA. If I HAD to choose I'd pick Christmas at DL.

Just my 2 cents....