Not trying to sound like a snob but...

[Bbgrizzle]

I'm not sure you can assume that the people in the value resorts are those who can't afford the deluxes. We stay deluxe because we are a family of five, but our kids are BEGGING us to stay at ASM. They think it looks so fun with all the characters. We may have to end up staying there just to let them try it once.

I would say that there are more families with YOUNGER children staying at the value resorts. Since younger children are the ones who tend to throw tantrums more often, it probably feels like there are more badly-behaved children at the values. For me, that is a big reason not to stay at the values. My two-year-old's tantrums are loud enough without having to hear it in stereo due to all the other two-year-olds around!

 

[Jen D]

You'll see folks dressed in everything from Tommy Hilfiger to WalMart duds at the most expensive and most affordable hotels on the property.

This is definitely true. Even if you could generalize about the way people parent based on their social class-- which you can't! It is worth noting that especially at WDW, but all over, the correlation between what people make and how they spend their money isn't always clear cut. There are people who are solidly middle or lower middle class who save and splurge on deluxes, and there are plenty of well-off people who go value or moderate, because they have a sensible frugality (sometimes, that's the reason they are so well-off!)

 

[goofy4tink]

I have to say that I had much worse experiences with other people while staying at the Polynesian last August than my other visits staying at POR. A large portion of the people were very noisy (after 10 pm), rude in lines, and really beligerent at the pools at Polynesian. We found none of that at POR. I still can't figure out what the difference is. We don't stay at the values simply because my dh hates food courts and my dd loves water slides! We could go for longer periods if we went with a value.
I really don't think that how much money a family has at their disposal tells you what kind of 'manners' the kids will have. I've seen less well off parents with incredibly well-behaved and polite children. ANd very well off parents with not so nice kids. Go figure. It all comes down to what is important to the family. Basically, you're just going to have more kids at a value based on the huge size of the resort!!!

 

[Wineaux]

I applaud Jjarman for having the courage to ask such a question. Asking the question indicates the mind isn't made up yet, so I think some of the harsh replies are a little out of line here.

That said, I don't think a family's economic status has a whole lot to do with how well behaved their children are. Poorly behaved children are everywhere, in priviledged schools and underfunded ones. Money does not equate good parenting.

However, It's been my personal experience that the parents I know that are financially strapped have better behaved children. Maybe the fiscal discipline required in these families spills over to the kids. The kids aren't the ones in charge of the bank account which means mom and dad run the show.

The families I know that have money to burn have kids who run the show. They do whatever they want and mom and dad just look the other way cause life is just so cushy. These kids want, want, want everything and they get it cause mom and dad can afford it and don't have to suffer the inconviences of saying no and sticking to it. Oh, and it makes these trophy kids more fashionable and worthwhile to show off too...

But have I seen every family? No, of course not. This is just the way it is with the 8 or so families I'm thinking of right now in my tidy little North Dallas community. My point is that a fat wallet doesn't make for bad parents any more than a big one makes for good ones. Or vice versa.

I believe all the resorts at Disney are designed to make all families comfortable so the risk of running into poorly behaved kids is a pretty fair one across the board, IMHO. But there are resorts that may be regarded as a little less 'family intensive' than others.

 

[Danauk]

I do agree that the ammount of money spent on a holiday or the resort you choose does not reflect on how children will behave. However I personally would not stay in a value resort. It is not that I think myself a better person it is purely because I do not have children of my own. When I go on holiday to disney I go with my husband and two friends who also do not have children. We choose to stay in delux resorts as they tend to be quiter and more orientated to adults. If in the future I did go to disney with children then I would consider staying at a value resort as they would be more suitable for the people on the trip. I do believe though that no matter where you choose to stay a disney holiday is always a good one.

 

[Rippington'sFan]

"Are the "kind" of people staying at the value resorts maybe a little less polite, a little less controlling of their children, a little more rambunctious than say the people staying at a deluxe resort or even a moderate? "

I don't know how you dreamed up this one BUT I know one thing. You have it completely BACKWARDS.

 

[disney daft dad]

Let me just start off by saying I am not offended by the question asked by the original poster.

I have stayed the ASMo twice and am styaing at the POly this time.

There is no specific "kind" of clientele at either resort...you can get many pleasant, polite and mannerly at the Values just the same as you can get rude, arrogant and dislikeable people at the Deluxes!!

As a previous poster pointed out even the Value resorts at Disney are of a really good standard they are NOT "spit and sawdust" style motels!!!! where you would be frightened to lie on the bed in case the "beasties" made it move!!

When picking your resort think what you want from it and which resort fits those requirements best.... you will know which one is right for you!!

Happy Planning

Val
xx

DDM

 

[Magic2000]

No offense taken - good question.

We are a family of five, and we've stayed at many of the Disney hotels - value, moderate, and deluxe. I don't think where a family stays has anything to do with their manners. We've met many, many very nice people at all the hotels we've stayed at.

My DH & I, and my 8 yr old DD just returned from Disney. We stayed at the All Star Movies - my DDs choice (101 Dalmations to be exact!) This was a "trick or treating" trip just for her! (Two teens didn't want to do "Halloween")

When we were checking in, I was amazed at one father who was sitting near the front doors, and letting his two young boys run back and forth, screaming very loudly, then laughing. The father never told the boys anything, and they were still running when we were given our room. (We were in 101 Dalmations and our room was very quiet!)

We had dinner one night at Jiko, and sat next to a family of four with two young boys. One of the boys was very well behaved, and the other was really acting up. (He was about 5 or 6 yrs old) He was walking and hopping all around their table, and next to ours; talking loudly, etc. Then when their food came, he whined VERY LOUDLY because he didn't want mac & cheese - he wanted pizza. This went on for a while, and the parents never told him a thing. Finally, when he started kicking, the mother did take him out of the restaurant and when they returned a few minutes later, he was quiet. And the father patted his "little buddy" and got him acting up again! And the best part was - even with all the misbehaving, they ordered him ice cream for dessert!

My DH and I commented on the number of children we saw in the parks that were acting up - "crying" loudly (with no tears). And, I'm not talking toddlers here - many of these kids were any where from 5 - 8 or 9 yrs old! IN MY OPINION, this is too old for that type of behavior. I know that you can't give in to every whim your child has - but other people don't really want to hear your child "crying". There were also parents yelling at each other too. (This was in the parks, so I don't know where they were staying.)

 

[Figaro]

Value resorts are pretty big, so I would expect that more people means more children. Our kids are all grown up and my spouse and I have stayed at deluxes, moderates and value resorts at WDW and they all have their pluses and minuses. But the quietest resorts we have stayed at have been the value resorts.

When we check in, we just ask for a quiet room away from the pools and have had very nice, quiet rooms towards the back of the resort. That way we are usually pretty close to our car, since we only use the Disney buses some of the time and I can honestly say that we've never been disturbed by noise or by children at a value resort.

 

[drcmk]

This is perhaps only slightly related. On our last WDW trip we stayed at an inexpensive off-site suite hotel in order to have some more room for our family of four. I have no complaints about the hotel, the service or the room. But after a few days, I realized that many people were attracted to an expensive suite hotel in order to cram as many people as possible into a room for as little money as possible. So there were lots of large groups--maybe sports teams, church groups, huge family reunions--and they all wanted to go to the pool at the same time or to the restaurant or be in the lobby, etc, making it very congested and difficult to manage. I wouldn't stay at an inexpensive suite hotel in Florida again for this reason. In this instance, at least, the adage, "You get what you pay for" turned out to be true.

 

[KdawnLily's Mom]

I am not offended- and I hope I am not being rude.

There have been many great answers for your questions here and some that are not so great. Mine is just average.

The 'kind' of people that go to any resort are generally the same 'kind' of people you find in your hometown. There is no way you can generalize any resort guests by saying 'only this kind of people go here' or even say 'the majority of that kind of people only stay there'. Disney is a vacation destination. You will find people who are not 'rich' staying at the GF because it is a once in a lifetime vacation they have saved and scrimped for. You will find people at the ASMo who go on a spur of the moment and may have ten to twenty times as much $ in the bank as the average person. Placing people into any category based on where they stay is a huge mistake. Categorizing any one person into a group without knowing them is only one thing-sterotyping- and an act of prejudice.

Just my opionion.

 

[ClareH]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion so there's nothing wrong with asking any question. I'm very fortunate, I come from a background where I have never wanted for anything in my life, and have learnt that money certainly doesn't make a 'better' person or even someone with manners. My parents have stayed at 2 of the deluxes (GF/YC) but they are happier at the moderates (they love POFQ) where they feel it is 'more down to earth', the worst examples of children throwing fits and parents just not doing anything about it were at the deluxes. One guy even came up to my mother at the GF and told her to look the other way because she was upsetting his son!!!

 

[bunnyfoo]

I've never thought about that Jaymie ... but I have to say that I've noticed children and parents staying at value, moderates and deluxes misbehaving I just figure that everyone is just really excited about being at WDW ...

 

[jjarman]

Originally posted by KathyTX
As someone who's stayed at all kinds of places and loves to people watch, my observation is that there's absolutely NO correlation between "class" and the amount of money being spent.

I've seen rudeness everywhere, *including* the Polynesian and Grand Floridian.

I've received kindness and thoughtful gestures from the young, old, rich and barely scraping by.

There are well-behaved little angel children as well as uncontrolled hellions at every resort.

You'll see folks dressed in everything from Tommy Hilfiger to WalMart duds at the most expensive and most affordable hotels on the property.

The *only* difference I've seen between the crowd at the All-Stars and the GF is the amount of money they've decided to spend on their room that night!

Thanks so much for your response. This is really what I expected but having only stayed at a moderate I was a little hesitant about staying at a value resort. I know how some of the people at our pool act and would hate to have to deal with that on vacation. But then again I have seen some pretty bad behavior at the country club pool too.

 

[MOMTOMOOTOO]

I am not offended at all, yours was a valid question, although it could have been worded differently. We have stayed only in deluxes or offiste up until this past AUgust when we tried CS for the first time. Good behavior cannot be bought it must be taught. I struggle on a daily basis to instill morals and values into my kids and I think I do a pretty good job But if one of my kids were going to implode, it wouldn't matter if we were at the Grand Floridian or a Red Roof up the road. And I would take control of the situation the same way either place.

My parenting skills do not change with location.


Laura

 

[>>^..^<<]

Wow.. it's a really interesting question, anyone offended by it needs to lighten up.

It's like how I look at our local supermarkets.. we have one gorgeous one, with everything you could need, floral department, seafoods, deli really nice atmosphere, music, displays and it is expensive.

We also have a local no-frills market with just the basics.

I am sorry but I can tell you these two stores attract different types of families. It is a fact.

Normally I shop at the nice store but once in a while if I need something quick I run into the no-frills store as it is closer... I see kids banging carts into things and running down the aisles, yelling, touching things, the parents are just ignoring them and I don't know but the people look kind of grubby, seriously, and the kids look unkept.

Over at the nice store... you just don't see that, no grubbies. The kids just seem like average kids, walking with their families, or riding in the cart, nice clean cut, behaved kids.. nothing like the other store.

What can I say? it's just my observation ~ I have no first hand knowledge of guests at Diseny values compared to guests at Disney deluxe. I have no idea LOL.... but it seems to work as you suggest here at my local supermarkets.

>>^..^<<

 

[Real Loser]

There is a documentary running on HBO right now about the young adult children of the super-wealthy. It is not a pretty sight. In fact, it is almost disturbing to watch. Apparently money does not breed well-behaved or emotionally stable kids. Was it last summer or the summer before when one of New York's super- wealthy young adults deliberately backed her car into about 20 people because a bouncer could not get her into a Long Island night club fast enough?

The Disney resorts are different. The first time we went down with our young daughter, we did the Poly for five nights followed by a trip on the Wonder. We were hooked. I wanted to go back asap. When we returned home I visited the travel agent and booked Dixie Landings nine months out for nine nights. I simply could not afford another string of $247/night rates in the same year. ( This was before I knew of these boards and things like annual passes and annual pass rates. I KNOW BETTER NOW!). I think I paid a rack rate of $128/night for Dixie.

I was a nervous wreck for months. "My husband is going to hate this", I thought. " Dixie is half the price of the POly. It is going to be awful", I lamented and stewed and fretted .

What a huge waste of time all that worry was. Given his choice, my husband would choose Dixie Landings again and again. He can afford the deluxes(most of the time), but he really loves that moderate.

It is not a reflection of who we are or how much money we have. It is a reflection of our taste and the fact that you get a pretty good bang for your buck at Disney moderates!

Our last trip I was very wise. Nine nights with annual passes at $79 a night! One-third the cost of the Poly!

FYI, we have one very well-behaved little girl who loves annual passes!

 

[susy]

There almost seems to be the idea floating around out there that poor, low-class people stay at the Value resorts. HELLO out there! Poor people DO NOT GO TO WALT DISNEY WORLD. PERIOD. If you think they do, then you haven't seen poor, honey! I have stayed at all levels. It 's all the same. The lobby at AKL was just as chaotic as the one at the ASSp. As as matter of fact, I've never seen the food courts at the AS as crazy as I've seen Boma. When I stay at the All Stars I don't think, "poor little ole me. I'm so poor and unfortunate". Let me drag my loud, shabbily dressed self on over to the check-in desk. No, I don't need help with my bags. I only brought one-a shopping bag from the Winn Dixie.

NO. I think," I am in WDW and I've never been this happy" (I really do think that).

 

[Divamomto3]

Umm....nobody likes a deluxe resort more than me, but the value resorts in Disney World aren't exactly low income housing for crying out loud. You're still spending THOUSANDS of dollars on a vacation. And income level has absolutely nothing to do with how well children behave. As a matter of fact, quite honestly, my friends that live on <gasp> budgets...and take their kids to parks, and libraries, and free concerts, and campground vacations, have much more low key, respectful, less spoiled children than my 3 high flyin', deluxe resortin', Abercrombie & Fitch, private schooled, Deluxe Disney Vacationin' Heathens.

But you can be sure they'll hold the door for you whether we're at the Yacht Club or All Star Music.

 

[Divamomto3]

Originally posted by susy
There almost seems to be the idea floating around out there that poor, low-class people stay at the Value resorts. HELLO out there! Poor people DO NOT GO TO WALT DISNEY WORLD. PERIOD. If you think they do, then you haven't seen poor, honey! I have stayed at all levels. It 's all the same. The lobby at AKL was just as chaotic as the one at the ASSp. As as matter of fact, I've never seen the food courts at the AS as crazy as I've seen Boma. When I stay at the All Stars I don't think, "poor little ole me. I'm so poor and unfortunate". Let me drag my loud, shabbily dressed self on over to the check-in desk. No, I don't need help with my bags. I only brought one-a shopping bag from the Winn Dixie.

NO. I think," I am in WDW and I've never been this happy" (I really do think that).

OMG, I couldn't agree more!!! And I'm laughing like a hyena at the thought of you and your poor ol' belongings in your Winn Dixie bag.