Not Sure if we should buy an AP

[DisneyMountainWoman]

So we were going to buy the Gold AP but then they changed the black out days to Thanksgiving... when we are traveling. Bah, that is half the reason why we bought 125 direct. But anyways now I am trying to figure out if it is worth buying the full price AP. It is soo expensive though. Here is my trips I have planned next year for the min amount of tickets I would buy if we did not have APs.
Princess Rundisney Feb: 1 day hopper 204
Thanksgiving 2022: 4 day hopper 610.57
Marathon 2023: 1 day hopper 198
1012.57

Then Photo Pass for all three trips 169 x 3= 507

So all together: 1,5019.37

The Full AP costs 1,299 then photo pass 1,398

So the math works out for me to get it but my mom who going to all the trips with me if I take out the photo pass is only 1,012.57 .

So is it worth both of us getting a pass?? I do not want to get an AP and not get one for my mom she would just buy the min amount of tickets and if we got AP we would go more to the parks than the min we are buying as individual tickets. I do not want to pay for whole day tickets to much during running weekends to save my energy for running, but if we had an AP, I would go for a couple of hours to eat and drink probably at Epcot. It would suck having to leave my mom behind if she did not have an AP with me. So what do you guys think does it make sense for us to both buy full priced APs. This would have been so much easier if I could just get the discounted AP Bah. Thanks for the help.

 

[bullygsmokes]

Would you consider making 1 disney trip buying tickets and selling the other points for a different vacation? There can be lot of value to be had in doing so.

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

Would you consider making 1 disney trip buying tickets and selling the other points for a different vacation? There can be lot of value to be had in doing so.

Two of them are runs and I have been losing weight and training since Jan for my first ever half marathon and lost about 30 pounds. Then after I run my first half, I want to run my first marathon and that will keep me training and losing more weight. So the running ones no, cannot change. The thanksgiving one is the whole family. I have huge family trip. With my husband, my son, my parents, and my husband parents, and possibly my husbands sister and her husband and possibly one of his cousins. So thanksgiving one we are doing too.

 

[Sandisw]

The benefit of the AP is you have it if you ever squeeze in another trip. It may not save a lot, but I’d get it. You’d then be eligible for a renewal following year and can go down to Sorcerer if not doing Thanksgiving in the future.

 

[Marionnette]

So we were going to buy the Gold AP but then they changed the black out days to Thanksgiving... when we are traveling. Bah, that is half the reason why we bought 125 direct. But anyways now I am trying to figure out if it is worth buying the full price AP. It is soo expensive though. Here is my trips I have planned next year for the min amount of tickets I would buy if we did not have APs.
Princess Rundisney Feb: 1 day hopper 204
Thanksgiving 2022: 4 day hopper 610.57
Marathon 2023: 1 day hopper 198
1012.57

Then Photo Pass for all three trips 169 x 3= 507

So all together: 1,5019.37

The Full AP costs 1,299 then photo pass 1,398

So the math works out for me to get it but my mom who going to all the trips with me if I take out the photo pass is only 1,012.57 .

So is it worth both of us getting a pass?? I do not want to get an AP and not get one for my mom she would just buy the min amount of tickets and if we got AP we would go more to the parks than the min we are buying as individual tickets. I do not want to pay for whole day tickets to much during running weekends to save my energy for running, but if we had an AP, I would go for a couple of hours to eat and drink probably at Epcot. It would suck having to leave my mom behind if she did not have an AP with me. So what do you guys think does it make sense for us to both buy full priced APs. This would have been so much easier if I could just get the discounted AP Bah. Thanks for the help.

Your math works out for you because you're adding the photopass. But did you take tax into account when you compared the individual ticket prices to an AP?

An Incredi-Pass (Can we find an acronyms for this, please? Maybe IPAP?), with tax is $1383.44. The math doesn't work for your mom based on the ticket prices you posted. Add PhotoPass and the price becomes $1488.47 for an IPAP+PhotoPass.

In addition, I'm unsure as to where you got your individual ticket prices. 1-day hoppers are never discounted on by the ticket wholesalers and are often more expensive than Disney's price. I'm seeing $196 (tax included) for the Feb 1 1-day hopper on Disney's website. That swings the pendulum further in favor of your mother getting individual passes instead of an IPAP.

I guess it comes down to whether you want the freedom to just spend a few hours in a park with her and not concern yourself with "wasting" an expensive day from a ticket.

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

Your math works out for you because you're adding the photopass. But did you take tax into account when you compared the individual ticket prices to an AP?

An Incredi-Pass (Can we find an acronyms for this, please? Maybe IPAP?), with tax is $1383.44. The math doesn't work for your mom based on the ticket prices you posted. Add PhotoPass and the price becomes $1488.47 for an IPAP+PhotoPass.

In addition, I'm unsure as to where you got your individual ticket prices. 1-day hoppers are never discounted on by the ticket wholesalers and are often more expensive than Disney's price. I'm seeing $196 (tax included) for the Feb 1 1-day hopper on Disney's website. That swings the pendulum further in favor of your mother getting individual passes instead of an IPAP.

I guess it comes down to whether you want the freedom to just spend a few hours in a park with her and not concern yourself with "wasting" an expensive day from a ticket.

So the Feb ticket is during the Rundisney weekend so the ticket price is higher than other days in Feb. The marathon ticket price is more a guess though since they have not released those tickets. I just used this years ticket price for that one.

 

[Marionnette]

So the Feb ticket is during the Rundisney weekend so the ticket price is higher than other days in Feb. The marathon ticket price is more a guess though since they have not released those tickets. I just used this years ticket price for that one.

Okay. The price I saw for Feb. 1, 2022 is the price I posted. I got it straight from Disney's website this morning. The price for the Thanksgiving 4-day hopper was higher on Disney's website than what you posted, so I assumed that you were getting your numbers from a wholesalers website.

Regardless, it still comes out less costly for your mother to purchase individual passes for each visit but then you have to decide whether that will impact your visit by restricting your comings and goings at the parks to just her available park days.

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

Okay. The price I saw for Feb. 1, 2022 is the price I posted. I got it straight from Disney's website this morning. The price for the Thanksgiving 4-day hopper was higher on Disney's website than what you posted, so I assumed that you were getting your numbers from a wholesalers website.

Regardless, it still comes out less costly for your mother to purchase individual passes for each visit but then you have to decide whether that will impact your visit by restricting your comings and goings at the parks to just her available park days.

Really thanksgiving one is off? Now I am going to go check.

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

Okay. The price I saw for Feb. 1, 2022 is the price I posted. I got it straight from Disney's website this morning. The price for the Thanksgiving 4-day hopper was higher on Disney's website than what you posted, so I assumed that you were getting your numbers from a wholesalers website.

Regardless, it still comes out less costly for your mother to purchase individual passes for each visit but then you have to decide whether that will impact your visit by restricting your comings and goings at the parks to just her available park days.

This is what I just pulled up. Remember this is 2022 not 2021 that may be where the price difference is coming from.
Tickets can be used on non-consecutive days!
Use any 4 days from Nov 20, 2022 – Nov 26, 2022.
$153/day x 4 days
$610.57/ticket (Ages 10+)

The plan is Sat fly in, Sun AK, Mon HS, Tuesday Resort Day, Wed MK, Thur Resort Day, Fri Epoct, Sat fly out

 

[Marionnette]

This is what I just pulled up. Remember this is 2022 not 2021 that may be where the price difference is coming from.
Tickets can be used on non-consecutive days!
Use any 4 days from Nov 20, 2022 – Nov 26, 2022.
$153/day x 4 days
$610.57/ticket (Ages 10+)

The plan is Sat fly in, Sun AK, Mon HS, Tuesday Resort Day, Wed MK, Thur Resort Day, Fri Epoct, Sat fly out

Taxes. People always forget to include the tax.

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

Taxes. People always forget to include the tax.
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True did forgot tax, but I have not added tax on to anything so I am at least comparing apples to apples. Hmm lets see what everything is with tax.

 

[Suzabella]

Don't forget to add in the savings from AP discounts on food and merch if you go that route. That might tip the scales a little toward buying the pass.

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

Don't forget to add in the savings from AP discounts on food and merch if you go that route. That might tip the scales a little toward buying the pass.

We are blue card so that does not matter as much correct? Since we get many of the same discounts.

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

So here is the math including tax:
Includes Tax
Feb Princess run 2022: 217.26
Thanksgiving 2022: 650.26
Marathon Jan 2023: 210.87
Total: 1078.39

Photo Pass (does not seem to have a tax?)
169 x 3
507

So buying all tickets and photo pass individually would cost: 1,585.39

Full AP 1,299: photo pass 1,398 with tax =1488.87

So savings for me of 96 dollars lol.
My mom though.... she would lose money with not photo pass add on.

Another idea I had while pricing out things with tax buy mom Discounted AP ticket and just by tickets individually.

2 day Hopper Thanksgiving and DVC Discounted AP

DVC AP 957.44 + 2 Day hopper 391 = 1348.44

Full AP : 1,383.44
So buying two extra days would save my mom $35 but still costing more than buying it individually but if we buy individually that means mom can not do small hops to parks on the other days with me. This math sucks, lol.

They probably do not give discounted tickets for us to buy during the blackout periods, I am guessing.

 

[Brian Noble]

Are you definitely going to get the Photopass for all of those trips? At the very least, you can buy a one-day Memory Maker for the two single-day trips; it is $59, but you can't buy it in advance.

https://www.mousesavers.com/walt-di...r-disney-world-discounts-and-deals/#photopass
So, that takes $220 off of your "non-AP" costs ($59 vs. $169), and makes the "non-AP" cost just a little bit less than an AP.

My general rule of thumb: I do not buy an AP for anyone unless I know that I have enough admissions planned to make it pay off just on the cost of admissions. I never buy it "just in case" because I tend to drop planned trips rather than add them spontaneously, and I never buy it for the discounts because that just encourages me to spend more money. You may have more willpower than I do though...

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

Are you definitely going to get the Photopass for all of those trips? At the very least, you can buy a one-day Memory Maker for the two single-day trips; it is $59, but you can't buy it in advance.

https://www.mousesavers.com/walt-di...r-disney-world-discounts-and-deals/#photopass
So, that takes $220 off of your "non-AP" costs ($59 vs. $169), and makes the "non-AP" cost just a little bit less than an AP.

My general rule of thumb: I do not buy an AP for anyone unless I know that I have enough admissions planned to make it pay off just on the cost of admissions. I never buy it "just in case" because I tend to drop planned trips rather than add them spontaneously, and I never buy it for the discounts because that just encourages me to spend more money. You may have more willpower than I do though...

The single day trips are not really single day trips I need it to be multiple day for the challenge runs. So I will get pics of all my runs those weekends.

 

[Brian Noble]

When I ran a half in 2015, runDisney photos taken during the races were not included in Memory Maker. Maybe that’s changed though.

 

[DisneyMountainWoman]

When I ran a half in 2015, runDisney photos taken during the races were not included in Memory Maker. Maybe that’s changed though.

Yep it has changed, now memory maker is what you buy for the runs. It is nice you do not have to buy two separate packages I had to do that for my first disney run.

 

[Shellyred8]

If this were my boat, I would go with getting the AP's for both mom and me. The amounts aren't too far off from regular ticket prices and the added flexibility would be worth it to us. This would allow us to go to the parks on the day we arrive and leave, and not have to buy a separate full-day ticket for those days (which we are known to do). Also, given how far out the trips are, this gives more flexibility if you end up arriving earlier or staying later due to better flight deals (or some other reason that might apply to you). Also, there is a lot of time between Feb and Nov where you might be able to get in an extra trip...you know..."hey mom, I found amazing flight prices to Orlando in May. Want to do another trip since we already have park tickets?!?!?! It would be a 'cheap' trip!".

 

[Yinn]

In your situation, it's a $400 difference between the annual pass and the ticket only.

If you added an extra day to every one of those trips, you'd still save money. So it comes down to, is there any possibility of another trip? If so, get the AP. If not, get the tickets and add a day if you think you need it.