Not sure if I’ve gone crazy

[atthebeachclub]

I can’t believe how close 2042 is.

16-17 years ago I was completely broke, working at a summer camp (best job ever). Now I have a professional degree, a paid off house, a spouse, a pet, 2 kids, a "real job" where people recognize it as a profession even, and I can't even believe I worked a job for room and board + $10/week (how did I ever pay my health insurance?!).

A lot can happen in 16 to 17 years, including a lot of great vacation memories.

 

[Moonspinner]

16-17 years ago I was completely broke, working at a summer camp (best job ever). Now I have a professional degree, a paid off house, a spouse, a pet, 2 kids, a "real job" where people recognize it as a profession even, and I can't even believe I worked a job for room and board + $10/week (how did I ever pay my health insurance?!).

A lot can happen in 16 to 17 years, including a lot of great vacation memories.

I agree. I still hate how close it is. We own at 2 of the 2042 resorts and I don’t want to let them go.
I also don’t want to be as old as I’ll be in 2042.

 

[Girlstar30]

16-17 years ago I was completely broke, working at a summer camp (best job ever). Now I have a professional degree, a paid off house, a spouse, a pet, 2 kids, a "real job" where people recognize it as a profession even, and I can't even believe I worked a job for room and board + $10/week (how did I ever pay my health insurance?!).

A lot can happen in 16 to 17 years, including a lot of great vacation memories.

My wife is about ready to quit her job and reminiscing about her favorite job ever (Michael's as an art teacher where she got paid a little over minimum wage)

Im like hell no you have a wife and three babies now. Me, BLT, AKV, SSR and we have Poly on the way due March 2026

 

[AstroBlasters]

Agreed. I was all excited to someday use points out there, but now I'd rather just save my points and book offsite. They really need to look at the value proposition of Disneyland Hotel and Grand Californian. I have no idea who would want to own at DLH right now.

VGC and VDH owner here…. happy to own at both!

 

[Brian Noble]

I also don’t want to be as old as I’ll be in 2042.

The alternative is worse.

Bill W.: "Hey, good to see you!"
Dr. Bob: "It's better to be seen than viewed."

 

[atthebeachclub]

The alternative is worse.

Bill W.: "Hey, good to see you!"
Dr. Bob: "It's better to be seen than viewed."

For real. People constantly tell me how bad it is to get old. My stock answer is "I hear it beats the alternative?"

 

[disneylandtour]

We LOVE owning at DLH. We drive cross country to go and you couldn’t pay us to stay offsite and get our catalytic converter stolen. Or our car broken into. The safe parking at DLH alone is worth our 250 points lol.

So question here, I've been charting resale at VDH. It's mostly moving in one direction--down. Similar to RIV a couple years aback. RIV has settled mostly at the low end at around $110 to $115 in terms of asking price. Where do people think resale VDH will settle per point? West Coast is a different market than FL. Also there are far fewer contracts at VDH (due to size of building and declarations) than RIV.

 

[VGCgroupie]

So question here, I've been charting resale at VDH. It's mostly moving in one direction--down. Similar to RIV a couple years aback. RIV has settled mostly at the low end at around $110 to $115 in terms of asking price. Where do people think resale VDH will settle per point? West Coast is a different market than FL. Also there are far fewer contracts at VDH (due to size of building and declarations) than RIV.

I will say they have been going down since most that were listed originally were very over priced so much so that it didnt make a lot of sense over direct.

I think VDH will fare much better than RIV simply due to lack of competition. When DL forward comes to fruition I think prices will get a boost. I dont think it will be another VGC but the price isnt going to tank.

Excited to see @Moonspinner take on it

 

[Wedgeout]

So question here, I've been charting resale at VDH. It's mostly moving in one direction--down. Similar to RIV a couple years aback. RIV has settled mostly at the low end at around $110 to $115 in terms of asking price. Where do people think resale VDH will settle per point? West Coast is a different market than FL. Also there are far fewer contracts at VDH (due to size of building and declarations) than RIV.

I think it can get to that $110-$115 During active direct sales. Once sold out, being really the only fresh option at Disneyland, with VGC staying at upper end resale prices, will get some ROFR, pushing its average resale price closer to VGF $160 range.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I think it can get to that $110-$115 During active direct sales. Once sold out, being really the only fresh option at Disneyland, with VGC staying at upper end resale prices, will get some ROFR, pushing its average resale price closer to VGF $160 range.

I can agree with this.

 

[cruisehopeful]

So question here, I've been charting resale at VDH. It's mostly moving in one direction--down. Similar to RIV a couple years aback. RIV has settled mostly at the low end at around $110 to $115 in terms of asking price. Where do people think resale VDH will settle per point? West Coast is a different market than FL. Also there are far fewer contracts at VDH (due to size of building and declarations) than RIV.

I think the resale prices will start climbing upwards. I don't know when, but when the resort is sold out and Disneyland Forward progresses, it will feel a lot more valuable. If you are looking to purchase resale for VDH, I would suggest doing so before the resort is sold out. Of course, I have nothing concrete to back that up. I just know pricing for the hotels is ridiculous and there aren't a lot of choices for DVC there.

 

[disneylandtour]

I think the resale prices will start climbing upwards. I don't know when, but when the resort is sold out and Disneyland Forward progresses, it will feel a lot more valuable. If you are looking to purchase resale for VDH, I would suggest doing so before the resort is sold out. Of course, I have nothing concrete to back that up. I just know pricing for the hotels is ridiculous and there aren't a lot of choices for DVC there.

At the rate it's selling there are many years left until this happens. I agree, once it sells out, this will happen. There's many inbetween years right now.

 

[VGCgroupie]

At the rate it's selling there are many years left until this happens. I agree, once it sells out, this will happen. There's many inbetween years right now.

If buying to potentially sell it before direct sells out then you shouldn't be buying anyway. Actually any direct purchase shouldn't be bought if planning on selling within 5-8 years

 

[PolyRob]

Isn't there a new resort in the DL-forward plans? I would imagine this could also impact resale prices.

The size (total points) in comparison to VGC could also be a factor.

 

[disneylandtour]

If buying to potentially sell it before direct sells out then you shouldn't be buying anyway. Actually any direct purchase shouldn't be bought if planning on selling within 5-8 years

I might have explained that poorly. I would like to buy some points there. Not a lot, due to the restrictions. Almost surely resale. So maybe enough for four or five nights a year, no more than that. I’m just trying to get a sense of how to gauge when VDH is getting sort of toward the bottom of its drop. I don’t think we’re there yet. But I’m not sure how close we are. The California economy… With its locals that go to Disneyland… Is a very different economy than Florida. I’m trying to figure out what to factor in.

 

[Lumpy1106]

Have you stayed at the Riviera? Do you like staying there? Riviera has its fans & its detractors, I don’t personally like the resort & thus was never tempted to buy there. If you buy direct there & decide to sell you’ll take a bigger loss than you would if you opted to buy then later sell the Poly direct & the Poly is in the MK area like BRV.
Since you love staying in the Wilderness Lodge area, you might consider CCV resale w/ its 2068 expiration if you’re worried about BRV’s 2042 expiration.
Another plan might be to buy & use those BRV points &, once you have a feel for how DVC works & know just how many points you need, buy Lakeshore Lodge next door direct in a year or two when it opens & either keep the BRV contract or sell it at a slight loss having used it for a couple of stays.

Counter-point;
I did not think we'd ever stay at RIV due to the high point demand but we had to make a near-last-minute change to our plans on our last trip and ended up giving it a shot. We LOVED it! Skyliner is ultra-convenient, Toplinos for dinner is amazing, staff was SOO friendly and helpful - the best we've encountered. QS is decent (isn't always the case for Deluxe resorts), pool was good and never crowded. Rooms were the best we've experienced, view was great no matter the room. Will definitely stay there again.

I also never considered buying direct BUT...if you can get a good deal on it, and Disney does make deals for the resorts that are not sold out, I would consider it. We walked through the Poly Tower and will say that's on our list to consider as well. If you have RIV direct, that will also be an option.

 

[cruisehopeful]

Isn't there a new resort in the DL-forward plans? I would imagine this could also impact resale prices.

The size (total points) in comparison to VGC could also be a factor.

I'm pretty sure the plans didn't call for a timeshare, only a hotel. However, I full expect a timeshare in there at some point. They closed restaurants and the movie theater a few years ago to make way for a 5 star hotel that they never built. I suspect they will revisit that with DF.

 

[Lumpy1106]

They can't build "timeshare only" at DL - the City of Anaheim won't allow it (or at least they didn't when they ended up building the DLH tower instead). DLH is weird in that you have to pay the tax per point when you stay there - makes it cost a lot more than staying at the other DVCs. I would not own there. YMMV

 

[AwfulWaffle]

We are very much in the same situation. We weren’t missing much with direct benefits and the can’t stay there resorts are nice but not a top of my 7 month wait list resorts. However, eventually I was blessed with 75 direct points for grand California so I took the direct leap. Since then I have added another 25 direct at poly and we are working on paying that off now. Six months same as cash with the Disney visa and maybe after a few months we’ll add another 25 at poly and rinse and repeat until we get the 150. But had it not been for grand California opening up for us then we would still be at zero direct points. Don’t think we’ll ever do AP so about all I get is future resorts which is nice but the original 13 are good enough if we don’t have them. 50 to go!

 

[VGCgroupie]

Isn't there a new resort in the DL-forward plans? I would imagine this could also impact resale prices.

The size (total points) in comparison to VGC could also be a factor.

I think there was a guess but I don’t remember seeing any concrete info saying yes for sure. Many thought Pixar would be converted but it can’t be.