Not sure $149 Disney After Hrs event is doing well... (ETA: reviews in 1st post)

[3DisneyFanz]

I'm not saying its not disappointing that you don't get picked for a random giveaway but that is how life works. I don't see the point in stomping my feet and whining about it in order to make Disney give me something too. But maybe I'm different, if I pay for something it means I'm willing to pay for it, that doesn't change because someone else was lucky enough to get it for free.

Could be. Could also be that you never know how you'll really react to a situation until it faces you. Stomping feet is a form of disappointment just like letting it stew inside. Either way it's still manifesting itself.

 

[Hikergirl]

Could be. Could also be that you never know how you'll really react to a situation until it faces you. Stomping feet is a form of disappointment just like letting it stew inside. Either way it's still manifesting itself.

LOL, I never said anything about letting it stew inside. I would think about it for a second and then enjoy the rest of my dinner and pay my bill and go about enjoying the vacation I planned and paid for. Maybe you'd let it stew or stomp your feet but that really isn't my style.

 

[3DisneyFanz]

I don't think the comparison holds up because in that case, everyone had gone to dinner with the intent of paying.

I think the better example might be that if BOG had a wedding party that took up half the restaurant, but they cancelled because the bride flipped over on one of those little speedboat things and lost her memory. But the food had already been prepared and the event already staffed, so BOG went to random people in the park and asked them if they wanted to have a free dinner at BOG. Better than throwing it all away.

The infrastructure and the things were already in place. Now, the paying guests in the other room might have slightly slower service because of the free meals given out, but that would be the extent of the consequence.

But in that circumstance it would still be paid for by another party. Maybe it would be better to say you pay for the Wishes dessert party and when you get there only 50 people signed up and there are lots of tables and cupcakes. Then they say well we baked all these cupcakes and there are extra tables here so let's just fill up the area with the next 50 people who walk by. I still don't think that's going to go over well with anyone.

 

[Praying Colonel]

Example-- I have season tickets to the Cincinnati Bengals

There's your 1st problem.

Sincerely,

Bengals fan since 1972

 

[whiporee]

But in that circumstance it would still be paid for by another party. Maybe it would be better to say you pay for the Wishes dessert party and when you get there only 50 people signed up and there are lots of tables and cupcakes. Then they say well we baked all these cupcakes and there are extra tables here so let's just fill up the area with the next 50 people who walk by. I still don't think that's going to go over well with anyone.

Just to keep my hypothetical alive, let's say it hadn't been prepaid. Doesn't change the fact that some people ate free, but their fee meal had no significant impact on those that paid.

 

[3DisneyFanz]

Just to keep my hypothetical alive, let's say it hadn't been prepaid. Doesn't change the fact that some people ate free, but their fee meal had no significant impact on those that paid.

But that removes the argument that the infastructure and food prep was already in place and goes back to my original example. Whether it's a random grab or picking people who are already there asking people to be happy about paying for something that someone else is getting for free and impacting the level of service they paid for is unrealistic in real life. It's a great theory and I'm sure a very small percentage of people would be happy to pay for others experience but the vast majority of the population isn't going to feel that way. In fact I'd suspect even a large number of people who would vocally say that it sounds great would have a different tune it it really happened.

 

[Kimberly9701]

I don't have any desire to eat at BOG for dinner so I'd probably just laugh at all the people that got hosed. I would suggest you get out quick though because I still suspect only two people would just cheer for the rest and continue eating.

So basically, you do not like anything that costs extra at Disney. You've made that quite clear. What I don't understand is your obvious resentment and problem with those of us that do? Or with a business for catering to a market of those who see value.

Let it go. Not worth the stress if it's something you would never consider anyway.

 

[Kimberly9701]

There's your 1st problem.

Sincerely,

Bengals fan since 1972

Ha Ha!!! True..but I still love them...even when I'm angry at them. It's a tragic thing to be a Bengals fan..but we go on..year after disappointing year..

That being said...I harbor no resentment to the fans who receive free tickets on non sold out game days...I honestly don't know anyone who would. It's just crazy to me to worry so much about what someone else is getting. I do harbor resentment towards Mike Brown..but that's a whole other convo....lol

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I keep seeing posts along this line, "They haven't done it yet, so what is the point of worrying about it?"

Do you really not see the value in trying to anticipate the future? I do it all the time - I try to figure out when my kid's French test is going to be, so he can start studying in time. I look to see if it might rain on Friday, since that will affect the field trip. I start researching if I get the feeling my editor is going to ask me to write a certain book. Shoot, a lot of people make very good livings anticipating a wide variety of financial trends.

The people on here are Disney experts and are often planning or thinking about multiple trips down the line. It makes sense we would want to be looking ahead and trying to anticipate the coming changes.

We just disagree. Pretty simple. At any point in time I'm planning at least one trip. There are always things up in the air. Some things seem worth speculating about to me (what indications do we have that Tiffins will be open by X date), while things like "WHAT IF they start limiting regular hours to up-charge like this" doesn't rise to the level of things I find worth contemplating or worrying about. Others do. AS I SAID: VIVE LA DIFFERENCE!!!!

 

[Hikergirl]

It's not an extreme. Being disappointed and keeping it inside is a form of stewing on something. Whether you want to say cheer of just going back to eating and ignoring it either way I doubt much of that would occur.

Ok, this is getting ridiculous. Being disappointed for a minute is not "keeping it inside", its a fleeting thought. Not getting mad, or letting it stew but instead going about my own dinner that I'm perfectly willing to pay for is not "cheering".

I don't know why you are having a hard time accepting that Disney giving away something for free to some but not to "me" isn't going to cause me to have a reaction.
Really, some of use don't feel the need to get all worked up about these things. We don't take Disney's actions as something against us personally. We are perfectly capable of not stewing about it, and we will just enjoy our wonderful WDW vacation.

 

[lovethattink]

A reminder to please keep it friendly and post within DIS Guidelines.

 

[3DisneyFanz]

So basically, you do not like anything that costs extra at Disney. You've made that quite clear. What I don't understand is your obvious resentment and problem with those of us that do? Or with a business for catering to a market of those who see value.

Let it go. Not worth the stress if it's something you would never consider anyway.

When have I ever said that? I've paid extra for plenty of things at Disney and I said early on with this I would totally recommend the early sessions for this to people. I felt all along attendance would be low for these and that people could have a good in park experience. Do I trust that to continue if it gains in popularity? No but what's a value 6 months from now may not be the same as what is a value today.

I also didn't say BOG holds no interest to me because you have to "pay extra". I just don't find the menu appealing. Obviously if earlier I said I'd want to eat at various restaurants that kind of goes against that whole take anyway.

I also have said repeatedly I don't care if people want to do this event. To me how you spend your money is irrelevant.

That does not change anyone having the ability to have an opinion as to whether or not this is good for the Disney consumer or change having an opinion that they are doing people a diservice by giving away tickets to an event they asked others to pay for under the premise that it was an exclusive event for people who purchased the tickets.

If it's such a great deal for everyone then why stress over whether or not everyone loves it. If that's true then most people will get there in time.

 

[Kimberly9701]

It's not meant for "most people". It's meant for a certain market in the WDW traveler realm.

I'm considering doing an in room celebration for our next trip.. I'm very undecided bc I think the price seems steep for what it is and I don't know if I see the value. I also haven't seen any picture from anyone who has actually done the one I'm considering, so that doesn't help my decision either.

If I end up just doing an in room 'gift' instead of the celebration, bc I concluded that it isn't worth it.. That doesn't mean someone else didn't see value. So I can not say "the price is ridiculous and shouldn't be offered". It was only ridiculous to me has no bearing on another family and their perception of value.

 

[jknc]

I was upset when I was told I could not do BBB because I was an adult

 

[jo-jo]

So I'm confused, were there tickets given away for free last night too? It seems I've read "I've heard" statements, but no first person stories.

 

[ravenclawtrekkie]

So I'm confused, were there tickets given away for free last night too? It seems I've read "I've heard" statements, but no first person stories.

Some CMs had comp tickets last night. There were about 8-10 of us there from my line of business at my park.

One of my roommates works front desk at a resort (and not at AoA or a DVC resort, as previously discussed in the thread) and he said they were giving away tickets to random people as well.

I guess they want word of mouth to be the primary marketing for this, which seems really weird to me, but it's all above my pay grade.

 

[TitanBrett]

I was there last night with my wife and daughter. My daughter turned 12 at midnight and we had an awesome time, was great to be in the park with virtually no other guests. I managed to snap a picture of the walkway between small world and peter pan with ZERO people in the photo, its sweet. I could not care less if some people got it for free as there were no lines anyway so free tickets had no effect on our enjoyment. Only issue was that my wife and I both agreed it will be hard to come back during regular hours again

 

[Kimberly9701]

So I'm confused, were there tickets given away for free last night too? It seems I've read "I've heard" statements, but no first person stories.

This is what I would like to know as well.lol

I was there last night with my wife and daughter. My daughter turned 12 at midnight and we had an awesome time, was great to be in the park with virtually no other guests. I managed to snap a picture of the walkway between small world and peter pan with ZERO people in the photo, its sweet. I could not care less if some people got it for free as there were no lines anyway so free tickets had no effect on our enjoyment. Only issue was that my wife and I both agreed it will be hard to come back during regular hours again

Awesome!!!! I'm glad you had a magical time!!! Oh my goodness I hope this sticks around...I'm excited!!!! I almost wish I could squeeze in a night in June!

 

[Misha72683]

The difference is you're typically getting 10+ hours of the full spectrum. Maybe I want to eat at Harbor House, BOG and Friar's Nook or grab a cinnamon roll at Gaston's. I can't do that "after hours". To me that even is a ride night and nothing else. Disney would lose significant money on us in this event compared to what we drop on an all day trip.

Except eating at BOG (often a long-shot anyway), you can still do that from 7-10/11. You have 3-4 houra of normal park time to eat, enjoy the park and regular wttractions before focusing on rides.

 

[Mikie]

Have you ever purchased a car/truck/van?
Because if so- I guarantee you that someone got theirs for less money. And also someone paid more than you.

Yes, and of course! That's why back in the day I liked using Consumer Reports car fax service to tell me the regional average actually paid for my choice of car and I now like car shopping in the Internet age where I can get that sort of info from various web sites to help me get comfortable that I'm paying the correct going rate.

The freebies in this case seem to me to be just an additional piece of information in my buying decision. I learned that oops! I paid $150 pp based on the best information available at the time, but today, circumstances have changed (hundreds are being given away free) and it seems I overpaid compared to what I could have gotten. When that happens to me, I find it worth my while to ask the business or vendor to adjust my price based on this new information. I go back to Best Buy if the laptop I bought goes on sale 6 days later because I think the $50 refund is worth my time. For my family of 5 to have paid $750, it would be well worth a quick stop at GR to see about a refund! They might tell me "sorry that was a special deal for DVC, are you a member?" To which I'd say no and move along. Or they might say "here's $750" which is an outcome I'm willing to spend a couple minutes on.

I don't say they MUST, or that they OWE me, or that they ripped me off, but it's worth a polite question!

Actually, the fair market price is what someone has actually paid. And since people have paid the entrance fee - that is the market price. What the owner of the ticket decides to do with it after the fact (whether it be a paid ticket holder or Disney) has nothing to do with the market price. I think it would be a tough argument to get your money back.

I agree on "market value". It would be more clear if this were a price drop vs a freebie. I don't think it would Be a tough argument at all. Disney themselves honors price drops when they allow you to apply a subsequent promotion to an existing reservation. They did it within the last year when they raised the pre-purchase price of Memory Maker, then lowered it back down and refunded the difference back to purchasers of the interim price.

It's not at all an unusual business practice and the amount of potential refund plus the amount of time/trouble it would take, plus the new facts come to light (Disney willing to give tix away) makes the ask worthwhile to me! That's all I'm trying to say.