Not so magical vacation

Disney Daddy et al

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WOW>>>>>> How things have changed.
Upon arriving at MCO we had no trouble finding the magical express. However we did have to wait over an hour to leave the airport and our luggage did not arrive at our room until well after 11pm. We were also disappointed that no music or videos were being played on the bus in route to our resort. Not a big deal at the beginning of our vacation but after all that has happened I figure it should at least be noted.
We do not typically stay at value resorts but chose POP century for the first 2 days and last 3 days as we were staying at Saratoga Springs our first week and Off site our second week at Marriott's Grand Vista. We landed Friday at 7pm and went to the Magic Kingdom Sat. Aug 6th. As we approached the gate I stopped my children before entering the park and asked the cast member about our tickets. We had 7 day hoppers that expired "14 days from first use" * I was concerned about our last day on the 20th, and was "TOLD" by the cast member that took my ticket, our tickets would still be good on the 20th. ( You can probably already guess how our vacation ended but I do have a few positive things to say)
Sunday check out at POP Century is also worth mentioning. I was told it would take 2 hours just to have our luggage taken to the lobby. Imagine a 37 year old man dragging an 8 and 10 year old in tow through a parking lot with 8 pcs of luggage. Also picture two cast members (one a manager ) watching all of this and doing absolutely nothing to assist us. Needless to say I will never recommend this place to anyone.
Saratoga Springs was just what we expected and a little bit more. Great resort ,would recommend to anyone. Nostalgic and peaceful are the two words I would use to describe this resort. ( Solid service and professional staff ) Kids loved the pool !!!
Off site we stayed at Marriott's Grand Vista on International Drive. Great location beautiful surroundings and only 15 short minutes to Universal. This makes our third year at the Vista and it was quite possibly the worst experience ever. We booked our usual 2 bedroom and upon arrival discovered the safe key missing and a stain on the floor. Someone arrived immediately for the safe but no one showed up for the stain. Tiny ants were our next challenge and we were told that this was common and no room could be guaranteed bug free. I feel bad about this because the Vista was the very first place we stayed in 2002 when we started our annual Disney Family vacation. I'm hoping its only an operational issue because this really is an attractive and convenient resort.
Upon driving back to POP Century we ended up driving on and off property due to lack of signs showing the proper way to POP Century. Tired and hoping to visit the Magic Kingdom that Friday morning I finally pulled into Coronado Springs and changed our reservations as I was tired and a little sad that our vacation was almost over. We headed out to the magic kingdom and were treated very rudely by a parking lot attenedant at the MK. I went immediately to guest relations and informed them and inquired about paying additionally to make our tickets non expiring. We still had extra days but were told that our tickets expired that day and it would cost an additional 200.00 to upgrade. After 4 years in a row and thousands of dollars spent I am being treated like this....???? In the Happiest place on earth ???? I thought it was a mistake on the girls part so I tried to resolve it at Coronado Springs and was told the same thing ( Pay more or throw your tickets away ) Basically ..... "It's not our problem"
We spent our last day at the resort. I refuse to spend over $7000 dollars a year in a place that treats me like I'm just another guy trying to beat the system. I have been an adamant supporter of all things Disney and I regret that Disney did not recognize this. I will no longer be visiting the parks until this matter is resolved and have filed two complaints with the State Attorney Generals office. I'm not sure what else I can say. If this were our first trip it would most certainly have been our last. Hopefully no one else will have this happen to them.

PS ( Kids night out was great I highly recommend them )
 
6th-19th inclusively equals 14 days, just for myself I never trust people at the parks who are too rushed to really think about an answer, like a ticket taker, I might have actually wanted to go to someone who could really understand the math, i.e. guest services, front desk at the resort and then call the Attorney General if they were misleading, but a ticket taker, come on. What does the small print on the back of the ticket say? Just curious, I really don't know.
 
Sorry you had a less than magical trip. I will agree with on the signs for POP. More than a few times we ended up going the wrong way due to a lack of signs. Figured out that if you follow the signs to Wide World of Sports, you could get back to POP.
 
I hate to sound crude, but that sucks!!!

You are Disney's dream customer, and to be treated like that is inexcusable!!!!

I'm in sales (medical, not hospitality) but know enough to treat all customers well in the hope that they will become repeats.

I'm so sorry.
 

Actually, the $200 to upgrade to non-expiring doesn't sound that far out of line.

I think to add the non-expiring option to my family's tickets when we went two weeks ago would have been around $230-250. Remember...it doesn't matter how many days you have left on the pass that determines the cost to upgrade to non-expiring, the fee is based on the original number of days/plusses on the tickets.

As for the 14 day, I'm sorry but I think it was pretty obvious that they would have expired on the 19th with a first use on the 6th. The 6th counts as 'day 1', and all you had to do was count ahead to the 14th day to see when they'd expire.
 
I am so sorry you had such a bad time.

However, the upgrade for your tickets sounds correct, it's 50 dollars per ticket to make them nonexpiring if they are 7 day or more tickets, it doesn't matter how many days are left on the tickets and that is explained on the WDW website.
 
$200 is the going price for an upgrade on a family ticket. I think your first CM expereince that said the tickets would be good the 20th did a big "Oops". Day one on the ticket is the 6th. Which would have had them expire on the 19th not the 20th.

Sorry to hear that you were misinformed. I would have been crushed if I was under the impression that my tickets expired a day later than its supposed to and then get there to find out it didn't.

Hope the visits to the parks were good aside from that.
 
I guess I would have thought that 14 days from first use meant 6th-20th also...that they are essentially 15 day tickets. I don't know exactly how it is written, but perhaps it should be more fully explained. Maybe they should read "good for 14 days beginning with first day of use" or something to that effect. I'm sure that they had many experts in on the wording, but for some reason to me, the "from" first use made me think that I have 14 days "after" first use. Obviously, I'm wrong, but I don't think I'm the only one who would need a little clarification.

Beth
 
I am sorry your vacation was not as you hoped - I do hope you will give Disney another try in the future.

:sunny:
 
bethbuchall said:
I guess I would have thought that 14 days from first use meant 6th-20th also...that they are essentially 15 day tickets. I don't know exactly how it is written, but perhaps it should be more fully explained. Maybe they should read "good for 14 days beginning with first day of use" or something to that effect. I'm sure that they had many experts in on the wording, but for some reason to me, the "from" first use made me think that I have 14 days "after" first use. Obviously, I'm wrong, but I don't think I'm the only one who would need a little clarification.

Beth


Ah, but then the wording would be "Fourteen days AFTER first day of use".
"From the 1st to the 14th" is fourteen days
"Fourteen days AFTER the 1st" is fifteen days

I think Disney is very clear in indicating the expiring passes are valid for fourteen days starting from the first day you use them. I'm in accounting, and I still (wait, checking to see if anybody's reading over my shoulder; nope, okay) have no qualms about counting out on my fingers when in doubt :D
 
The Disney website states "14 days FROM the first use". Should be pretty easy to figure out. From what the OP wrote, there is nothing there that would have made my vacation so bad I would not go back. You'll never find perfection anywhere, especially if your looking to find it.
 
Maybe I'm naive, but I'm wondering what the State Attorney General is supposed to do?

I am sorry you had a bad time. :(
 
Maleficent13 said:
Maybe I'm naive, but I'm wondering what the State Attorney General is supposed to do?

I am sorry you had a bad time. :(


Nothing, I'm sure they've had plenty of lawyers go over the wording of every ticket/room/etc.. policy.
 
kaytieeldr said:
Ah, but then the wording would be "Fourteen days AFTER first day of use".
"From the 1st to the 14th" is fourteen days
"Fourteen days AFTER the 1st" is fifteen days

I think Disney is very clear in indicating the expiring passes are valid for fourteen days starting from the first day you use them. I'm in accounting, and I still (wait, checking to see if anybody's reading over my shoulder; nope, okay) have no qualms about counting out on my fingers when in doubt :D
I have to agree with you, 14 days is pretty self explanatory.
I used to work in accounting also, and I have to admit, counting on my fingers is something that I still find myself doing. I'm wondering though, would you take your shoes off to count to 14? :teeth:
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Disney Daddy et al said:
I will no longer be visiting the parks until this matter is resolved and have filed two complaints with the State Attorney Generals office.

You're kidding, right? I'm sorry, but I just don't see anything that's worthy of state action here -- and I'm one of those sue-happy people commonly known as a "lawyer." You weren't defrauded. There wasn't anything nefarious going on. You just had the bad luck to encounter a CM with bad information and them some rude treatment to top it off.

I truly do feel for you -- I had a nasty Disney experience once where misinformation from a cast member completely screwed up a day of touring -- BUT, it seems to me that a couple of bad experiences over two weeks are dominating your entire impression of your trip and now you're seeking some sort of vengeance that you're not likely to find.
 
I have been to disney enough to figure out that the day you get there (and use the ticket) is Day #1 so 14 Days Later from the 6th is the 19th.

To prevent problems I look at a calendar and count each day I will be at a park.

The ticket taker gave a faulty response.
 
So, are you upset that they have a policy of expiring passes, or just upset that they enforced this policy? Had you bought non-expiry tickets to begin with, you would have paid $200, so how exactly did they mis-treat you? The CM gave you wrong info, but unfortunatly, Guest Service can't take your word for it, because then a lot of people would take advantage of this and say "but so-and-so told me" just to get what they want. YOU know you werent' "trying to work the system" but they have NO way of knowing if you told the truth or not. Therefor, they enforce their policy.

So, bad signage (which is a vaild complaint!), wrong info from a CM (again, valid) and Disney enforcing it's clearly stated policy about upgrading tickets, is going to keep you from returning to a place that you and your family clearly enjoy?

Okay! Shorter lines for the rest of us! :)
 
however, the period of the tickets you purchased was very clear. For example: One purchases 7-day non-expiring tickets and can only assume use for 7 days! You seem intelligent and expecting your tickets to be used for longer than the purchased time period because of a "percieved" loophole can only be blamed on yourself. Even if you ran it by a CM that obviously didn't understand what you were asking or attempting to do.

Now, about the hotel not removing your luggage...I should think that you could have made more than one trip and juggling all that luggage on one person was an unnecessary display for the benefit of the hotel staff and guests. If you were moving to another Disney resort, they should have accomodated you in transferring your luggage to the appropriate resort. POP is not a small resort and there are many guests coming and going on a daily basis. You could have saved the aggrivation (and display) and allowed POP to transfer your bags while you enjoyed a park!

A large portion of your complaint is of the off-site hotel. Disney is not accountable for that portion. The signage seems to always be a problem for guests who are driving. However, instead of asking directions, you decided to just change to a different resort. Your choice, not Disneys fault.

Not trying to put you on the spot, but other than less than stellare customer service by the POP manager, there doesn't seem like much can be done for you. What are you looking to achieve?
 












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