Non Ticket holder at MNSSHP

[salmoneous]

I don't think that'd be the case- they closed the party at 6 in the past and cleared it of day guests while early arriving party guests were sequestered in one area of the park. If it were the case? So be it. I bought my tickets with the knowledge that the party runs from 7-12, so did everyone else. I'd rather be able to actually experience the 'limited ticket' party without having to jostle elbow to elbow with a ton of extra people than have a couple extra hours.

Everyone gets their own option, but I think you guys are nuts. You are willing to give up 3 hours of park time - including the best hour of all from 6-7??? And what do you get in return?

No, you don't get a vastly emptier park. The CM's will still shoo out the no party go-ers. They'll just start at 7 instead of at 6. Yeah, maybe a few more will get past the shooing, but I can't image that makes up for getting 5 hours of park time instead of 8.

 

[keishashadow]

Just send the headless horseman down Main Street brandishing his sabre...that'd clear folks out in a hurry .

I've been unable to get an ADR for party of 3 @ LTT before the parties started (think after 6:00 p.m) both last Dec. & for this Oct. Both times, I bought tix for non-peak days & on the 1st day they were sold.

IMO, they should limit the dining ADRs to the event goers after a certain time or else tie in a dinner pkg ala CP/Epcot or Fantasmic (including restricted seating for parades - one side of street) for those who want it.

Especially for AP holders who buy the event tix more for the "special things", makes you wonder why you should spend extra money if you can just stay & not ride anything?

Still think the tix are a good, cheap way to enter park if you don't want to burn a MYW tix, especially since they've let people in before 4:00. Except once word gets out that they're not consistently checking wristbands to ride, the parks will get even more crowded.

 

[mking624]

Everyone gets their own option, but I think you guys are nuts. You are willing to give up 3 hours of park time - including the best hour of all from 6-7??? And what do you get in return?

The three extra hours are merely a generous offering from WDW since they don't require a day ticket for that time. So "willing to give it up" isn't nuts of us...it shouldn't be expected in the first place because it's still during normal operating hours and they aren't requiring a day ticket for it. The purchased tickets are for a party that runs 7pm-12am. It's nice to get in early but should not be expected when that's not the party start time. If I can only get in at 7pm, I'm not going to complain about how I couldn't get in earlier if I wasn't using a day ticket. I'm perfectly fine with it.

 

[dance2874]

I dont know why I keep reading these threads, especially since I will not be there for these dates and do not have tickets anyways...BUT I certainly dont see any 'regualr park' guests complaing about all the extra people coming in after 4 pm who did not pay a days admission. I mean, since the event starts at 7, I assume it is clearly stated that way on the ticket, maybe I am wrong. If they allow party guests in starting at 4 without them having to pay a days admission, it is almost the same as allowing people to say past closing in my mind. (They could see some afternoon entertainment meant for day guests, lengthen the lines for day guests...just as the day guests would do to party guests.) I dont see any non event guests on here saying the party guests are theives like is being stated in some threads. I just get a very holier than thou attitude from some of the posts here...flame away if you must.

I think everyone needs to relax until there is a reason to be upset. There is no perfect system to ensure guests are out of the park without empitying it completely, which it seems Disney will not do. Lets give them a chance to do it right before assuming they will not.

***putting my flame proof suit on***

 

[beattyfamily]

I dont know why I keep reading these threads, especially since I will not be there for these dates and do not have tickets anyways...BUT I certainly dont see any 'regualr park' guests complaing about all the extra people coming in after 4 pm who did not pay a days admission. I mean, since the event starts at 7, I assume it is clearly stated that way on the ticket, maybe I am wrong. If they allow party guests in starting at 4 without them having to pay a days admission, it is almost the same as allowing people to say past closing in my mind. (They could see some afternoon entertainment meant for day guests, lengthen the lines for day guests...just as the day guests would do to party guests.) I dont see any non event guests on here saying the party guests are theives like is being stated in some threads. I just get a very holier than thou attitude from some of the posts here...flame away if you must.

I think everyone needs to relax until there is a reason to be upset. There is no perfect system to ensure guests are out of the park without empitying it completely, which it seems Disney will not do. Lets give them a chance to do it right before assuming they will not.

***putting my flame proof suit on***

Not exactly the same, IMHO, but I'd gladly give up getting in between 4p - 6p (that was Disney decision due to security checks and bottle neck problems) with just party tickets to have the 'hard ticket' expensive event exclusive to party ticket holders.

I can't believe you see a 'holier than thou' attitude because some party goers would like the event to stay a 'hard ticket' event.

 

[dbk1029]

This would just burn me up if people without the bracelets were allowed in during the party hours! I hate when people intentionally cheat the system. it makes me want to do very un-Disney like things to them. My mother raised me right and I don't endorse being a cheater.

I'll be there on 10/30 with my family and I will definately say something to someone about it if I see non-bracelet people wandering the park during the event. Disney just needs to knuckle down and enforce it's own policies! I also sent an e-mail but based on the auto-response I got I doubt anyone will hear back from them directly.

Until then I'll just have to take a wait and see attitude. I still won't stop going to the World I just may not do either of the special parties again.

 

[ssleblanc]

One thing that worries me though is what if all these emails prompt Disney to change the policy allowing party goers in at 4pm as a result? That way they can close the park at 6, get people out and then let people back in, it's really the ony way to make sure people don't stay without tickets. Personally, I'd rather have the 4pm entry, if it came down to that.

Actually, the "official" stand from Disney on the entry is that the party starts at 7, as stated on the ticket. I've never been for a special event and assumed we would get in at 7 (MNSSHP is our arrival day and we hadn't planned to use a park ticket that day, using the time to relax at the resort, have a leisurely lunch, and get a nap in so that the kids can make it through more of MNSSHP). After reading so much on here about entry at 4, I emailed Disney to ask about it and the response was:

Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World Resort.

Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Parties are a one-of-a-kind Halloween party where Guests can trick-or-treat immersed in the fantasy of the Magic Kingdom Park. It takes place from 7pm to midnight. We currently have no information on entering the park prior to the 7pm start time.

Dining is not heavily emphasized at this event so you may wish to have an early dinner at your resort, Downtown Disney or at one of the monorail resorts before the Halloween party begins.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us. Please include your full name, E-Mail address, and reservation number if applicable on all correspondence.

I'd asked because we had planned for a big late lunch and just counter service snacking for dinner, but thought that I might change the plans to an ADR in MK based on early entry. But before I did that I wanted to confirm that we could get in with the evening tickets.

Since their official stance is that there is not an official early entry time, I don't think that they would change it. I think if the email and phone campaign caused by the change in closing time causes any sort of action from Disney, it will be to revert back to what has worked in the past (6 pm closing time, sequester event ticket holders in one area and sweep the parks/decorate).

 

[dance2874]

Notice I said in SOME of the posts, not all. I understand wanting to get what you paid for, but calling day guest theives and assuming that you know better than Disney is very evident in SOME posts. (not YOU personally, in general)

 

[MsSpinShady]

Thanks to all for posting this information. I'm going to hold off buying our MVMCP tickets until it becomes clearer how Disney will handle this. I'll be watching with the rest of you for an official answer from Disney to someone's email.

Disappointing.

MsSpinShady

 

[salmoneous]

The three extra hours are merely a generous offering from WDW since they don't require a day ticket for that time. So "willing to give it up" isn't nuts of us...it shouldn't be expected in the first place because it's still during normal operating hours and they aren't requiring a day ticket for it. The purchased tickets are for a party that runs 7pm-12am. It's nice to get in early but should not be expected when that's not the party start time.

Oh, I understand. Ticket says the party starts at 7 so I wouldn't complain if that is inforced.

However, what I see here are people *asking* Disney to enforce the rule. They *want* the park to be closed for those hours. That's what seems bonkers to me. They would rather have 5 hours in the park instead of 8 - for almost nothing in return.

 

[FayeW]

I dont know why I keep reading these threads, especially since I will not be there for these dates and do not have tickets anyways...BUT I certainly dont see any 'regualr park' guests complaing about all the extra people coming in after 4 pm who did not pay a days admission. I mean, since the event starts at 7, I assume it is clearly stated that way on the ticket, maybe I am wrong. If they allow party guests in starting at 4 without them having to pay a days admission, it is almost the same as allowing people to say past closing in my mind. (They could see some afternoon entertainment meant for day guests, lengthen the lines for day guests...just as the day guests would do to party guests.) I dont see any non event guests on here saying the party guests are theives like is being stated in some threads. I just get a very holier than thou attitude from some of the posts here...flame away if you must.

I think everyone needs to relax until there is a reason to be upset. There is no perfect system to ensure guests are out of theme park without empitying it completely, which it seems Disney will not do. Lets give them a chance to do it right before assuming they will not.

***putting my flame proof suit on***

Dance, I completely agree with you! As long as *they* are the ones getting something for free (i.e using the park without having used a park admission ticket) the that is perfectly acceptable because "Disney Allows It". The fact that they will take advantage of going on rides that might not be open during the party, and lengthen lines for the "honest people" who are legally supposed to be there, is irrelevant. Heaven forbid if "Disney Allows" some other family to stand and watch the parade or fireworks, though. Those people are thieves!

 

[NeverlandClub23]

Dance, I completely agree with you! As long as *they* are the ones getting something for free (i.e using the park without having used a park admission ticket) the that is perfectly acceptable because "Disney Allows It". The fact that they will take advantage of going on rides that might not be open during the party, and lengthen lines for the "honest people" who are legally supposed to be there, is irrelevant. Heaven forbid if "Disney Allows" some other family to stand and watch the parade or fireworks, though. Those people are thieves!

I don't agree. I think most people on this thread want Disney to enforce the rules, whether it's clearing out the park for non-ticket carrying party goers or whether it's letting people in before the party actually starts. An overall consistency of enforcing the rules would be nice but is not done for whatever reason Disney has.

 

[swbmom]

Dear Sue,

Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World Resort.

Beginning at 4:00PM, Guests inside the park who have purchased hard ticket event tickets for the
same day may return to the Front Gate to have their hard ticket event admissions swiped. The Guest
will receive a wristband which will serve as proof of admission for the event later that evening.
Guests with wristbands may stay in the park at closing; all other Guests will be asked to leave the
park. In addition to the Front Gate, additional areas for Guests to swipe their hard ticket
admissions and receive wristbands may be set up inside the park. Guests should refer to their park
guide or ask a Cast Member for these locations.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us.

Please include your full name, E-Mail address, and reservation number if applicable on all
correspondence.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Bano Carlos
WDW Online Communications

PLEASE NOTE: All information is subject to change without notice and should be confirmed just prior
to your visit.

 

[PatriciaH]

"Beginning at 4:00PM, Guests inside the park who have purchased hard ticket event tickets for the same day may return to the Front Gate to have their hard ticket event admissions swiped."

So you have to already be in the park at 4pm (used a ticket already.) No worries for the day guests. They do this for Halloween Horror Nights as well. We always show up about 15 minutes before a hard ticket event starts. We don't go for the rides though.

Wanted to add we do buy our tickets for the MNSSHP/MVMCP events. I was just pointing out that the day guests have no reason to be annoyed at early party goes now (like someone mentioned.) They have to be in the park already.

 

[momandseandodisney]

After reading all 8 pages, I must admit I am totally confused here still. Please explain exactly what is happening now during MNSSHP
THANKS

 

[keishashadow]

"Beginning at 4:00PM, Guests inside the park who have purchased hard ticket event tickets for the same day may return to the Front Gate to have their hard ticket event admissions swiped."

So you have to already be in the park at 4pm (used a ticket already.) No worries for the day guests. They do this for Halloween Horror Nights as well. We always show up about 15 minutes before a hard ticket event starts. We don't go for the rides though.

Then this would be different from how they left ALL MVMCP guest into park before 4:00 p.m. when we were entered park in Dec. We were prepared to use our in-hand AP's but, CM just waved us thru w/event tix.

I don't think it's unreasonable for tix buyers to complain that stragglers are watching the "special" parades...that they paid dearly for the privledge of watching.

Less people in park = better viewing opportunities w/o the usual "staking out" prime spots hours early IMO.

 

[Quinn222]

... all other Guests will be asked to leave the
park. ....
If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us.

I certainly have questions after this. It seems to confirm just what we feared. They are simply going to 'ask' people to leave but make no actual effort to make them do so.

 

[mickeymom55]

Don't you think that the phrase "asked to leave" is just a polite Disney way of saying they must leave the park if they do not hold an event ticket? Disney avoids using negative or forceful terms when dealing with their guests. JMHO

 

[shasess]

I dont know why I keep reading these threads, especially since I will not be there for these dates and do not have tickets anyways...BUT I certainly dont see any 'regualr park' guests complaing about all the extra people coming in after 4 pm who did not pay a days admission. I mean, since the event starts at 7, I assume it is clearly stated that way on the ticket, maybe I am wrong. If they allow party guests in starting at 4 without them having to pay a days admission, it is almost the same as allowing people to say past closing in my mind. (They could see some afternoon entertainment meant for day guests, lengthen the lines for day guests...just as the day guests would do to party guests.) I dont see any non event guests on here saying the party guests are theives like is being stated in some threads. I just get a very holier than thou attitude from some of the posts here...flame away if you must.

I think everyone needs to relax until there is a reason to be upset. There is no perfect system to ensure guests are out of the park without empitying it completely, which it seems Disney will not do. Lets give them a chance to do it right before assuming they will not.

***putting my flame proof suit on***

I totally agree...one of our MK days will fall on the same night that they are having Nights of Joy and I hope that Disney will not allow the guests with Nights of Joy tickets to get into the park several hours early. That would cause increased crowds on our already short (9 - 6) MK day! I have no problems with leaving the park at 6:00pm and allowing the NOJers to enter the park at 7:00pm.

 

[chrisann]

up until this post was started, everyone raved about how great these parties were (and although I'm not saying we shouldn't be upset about the freeloaders), I think everyone is focusing on the wrong thing. My theory is if at the end of the day, you and your family had a great time, and you followed the rules, that is all that matters. Throughout life, we will always be paying for some things that others are dishonestly getting for free unfortunately some people think they're exempt from the rules. It's not fair, but I refuse to let them take away from my good time. Yes it was pretty busy for the party we went to although it apparently wasn't sold out, but we were so excited to be there, I couldn't tell you if anyone had a bracelet on, I WASN'T LOOKING!! I knew we did, and that's all that matters. I will be going in October again(just have to figure out what dates!), and I still probably won't notice who had on bracelets or not. I know it's very expensive doing these trips and so we're all looking for the best values in everything but we shouldn't let that or what others do, take any of the magic away! This is just my opinion!