Non Ticket holder at MNSSHP

[makinorlando]

Since the tickets look like regular tickets are the CM's working the gates going to check the back of ALL the tickets coming into the park after 4:00 that day? I would think it would be a lot easier for Disney to have special themed tickets for these events. It seems that ticket holders should be given something other than a stupid wristband to ID themselves. Like maybe a special lanyard. I know it would up the cost but I know I would keep it.

Lori

I believe the tickets still go through the machine at the turnstyles and right on the other side are CMS putting the wristbands on (in all the parties we have only entered once after the time they started accepting the party tickets) If you are already in the park and go to one of the locations to get your wristband the CMs do look at the tickets.

 

[palmtreegirl]

One thing that worries me though is what if all these emails prompt Disney to change the policy allowing party goers in at 4pm as a result? That way they can close the park at 6, get people out and then let people back in, it's really the ony way to make sure people don't stay without tickets. Personally, I'd rather have the 4pm entry, if it came down to that.

 

[Mariposa]

One thing that worries me though is what if all these emails prompt Disney to change the policy allowing party goers in at 4pm as a result? That way they can close the park at 6, get people out and then let people back in, it's really the ony way to make sure people don't stay without tickets. Personally, I'd rather have the 4pm entry, if it came down to that.

I don't think that'd be the case- they closed the party at 6 in the past and cleared it of day guests while early arriving party guests were sequestered in one area of the park. If it were the case? So be it. I bought my tickets with the knowledge that the party runs from 7-12, so did everyone else. I'd rather be able to actually experience the 'limited ticket' party without having to jostle elbow to elbow with a ton of extra people than have a couple extra hours.

 

[GoofyforDisney3]

One thing that worries me though is what if all these emails prompt Disney to change the policy allowing party goers in at 4pm as a result? That way they can close the park at 6, get people out and then let people back in, it's really the ony way to make sure people don't stay without tickets. Personally, I'd rather have the 4pm entry, if it came down to that.

I have thought of this and really wouldn't mind if they said you could not entire prior to the start time of the party. I was suprised, when I had started reading about the party, that people were able to get into the park early with just the event tickets. IMHO, since the ticket does say that the party is from 7 pm to midnight and that is what the ticket was bought for, I have no problem with being held to that "rule" and not be admitted early.

 

[kellyg403]

I am hoping for the best in this situation too. I really am upset that I bought 11 tickets at 40 bucks a pop for the special night. We went to MVMCP and it was great fun. As a matter of fact, I read most of the information right here on the boards. I liked the fact that they limited the # of tickets so that there were fewer people etc etc. I am going to the party on 9/29 because I have the tickets. But, I will ask for a refund if there are others getting to enjoy the same atmosphere I am for free. Yes, the teens in my party will be glad if the lines are shorter for some rides. But we are going to see those characters we don't normally, to enjoy the special festivities and atmosphere. I am not going so I can ride SM 17 times in a row. I just think by not doing things like they did before, with the 6 pm closing that they are placing a pretty heavy burden on the CM's to ask people to leave all night long. Just not really happy about it, but trying to keep an open mind that everything will be alright.

Kelly

 

[Amyrlin]

They wouldn't change t to shut out all the guests, too much buisness lost in terms of restruant tables that have been booked.

 

[Kramer]

Anybody get a response from Disney yet?

 

[CrzyforPiglet]

Just the standard thanks for writing e-mail. I did look at the Disney calendar and at least for our MVMCP date of Dec. 15 they still have the park closing at 7p but showing Wishes at 6p. I'm hoping that they will start to rope off the lands or close off rides at 6p to herd people towards Main Street, give everyone a big finale and then start moving people out of the park. Maybe seeing Wishes will make everyone happy so that day guests will still get to see a big fireworks show and since more people will be in one area (especially if they close rides), Disney will have an easier time moving non-ticket holders out. I'm still curious to see if anyone gets a response.

I also heard the photo at least for MNSSHP will be offered at 50% off which isn't as good as free but better than full price.

Laurie

 

[NeverlandClub23]

We've been to MVMCP twice and neither time was a real effort made to clear the park. Yes you have wristbands but even on some of the rides no one checked (as I had a sweatshirt on and it kept falling over the wristband) and alot of people don't go to MNSSHP or MVMCP for the rides. Also, people that go to the park restaurants at closing are not cleared out when they exit the restaurant, but wander around the park without wristbands. It is a shame but it's a morality issue. I would rather pay and know I was doing the right thing and had paid my admission to be there than just stay and hope I didn't get caught or ask a random CM if it's ok for me to be there (people actually do this and think it's ok if a CM tells them it's ok to stay without paying ).

 

[NeverlandClub23]

IMHO, since the ticket does say that the party is from 7 pm to midnight and that is what the ticket was bought for, I have no problem with being held to that "rule" and not be admitted early.

I agree. We go to MK for MVMCP at 7 p.m. That's when the party starts so I would have no problem if they enforced this rule. But they should also enforce people leaving the park at the public park closing time. I think Disney is thinking too much about it's wallet.

 

[THESCHULTZFIVE]

I also just sent an email. Like others, I will post when/if I get a response.

 

[tjmw2727]

One thing that worries me though is what if all these emails prompt Disney to change the policy allowing party goers in at 4pm as a result? That way they can close the park at 6, get people out and then let people back in, it's really the ony way to make sure people don't stay without tickets. Personally, I'd rather have the 4pm entry, if it came down to that.

This is the way it used to be prior to 9/11. The park would close at say 5pm and the party would start at 7pm. I thought it was cool to leave the "regular" MK and return to the completely deocracted MK. It aslo eliminiated the problem of clearing the park and non-party goers at the party, no ticket no entry.

Apparently the change was made due to the bag searches, with a 7pm party start time and long lines with the majority of party goers wanting to enter right a 7. Honestly I never noticed many witout wristbands but I was always focused on my family and my good time.

I prefered the old way - and if you really want to elminate all the "crashers" this would likely be the way to do it. This also means no staying in the park with and ADR and getting a head start.

TJ

 

[beattyfamily]

This is the way it used to be prior to 9/11. The park would close at say 5pm and the party would start at 7pm. I thought it was cool to leave the "regular" MK and return to the completely deocracted MK. It aslo eliminiated the problem of clearing the park and non-party goers at the party, no ticket no entry.

TJ

YES! I remember this from 2000 when they closed at 6:00p and re-opened at 8:00p and the party ran from 8:00p to 1:00a.

The ONLY people in the park for those 2 hours were eating in restaurants.

The park was completely closed down and everyone was asked to leave. Then they re-opened at 8:00p.

It was GREAT! Wish they'd go back to that.

I have NO problem entering the park at the official start time if it means the park was completely cleared out.

 

[mapmakerj]

I sent my email. We are going on Oct 30th and it will be crowded enough without any non-ticket holders.

 

[FayeW]

If the party starts at 7:00, why is everybody in such an uproar about regular folk actually being able to stay until then? If they paid for a park admission they should be able to stay until the regular park closes! They should not be allowed to stay AFTER without a bracelet, but they should be entitled to what they paid for, same as you!

Last year we went for MNSSHP. We arrived at about 5:15 and they were ALREADY closing rides in Fantasyland. We had hoped to get to the Enchanted Tiki Room before 6:00, but we were too late, it had already closed by 5:30. I was pretty ticked about it, to tell you the truth. I felt bad for the people who had come to MK expecting the park to be open til 6, only to find many of the rides, and whole areas, closed 30 mins early. That certainly wasn't fair to them, and I suspect THAT is the what has prompted the changes for this year.

 

[DebIreland]

ooops, sorry, duplicate!

 

[mapmakerj]

Double post

 

[DebIreland]

If the party starts at 7:00, why is everybody in such an uproar about regular folk actually being able to stay until then? If they paid for a park admission they should be able to stay until the regular park closes!

No, I don't think anyone is upset about day guests staying til 7pm. That's exactly what we'll be doing on our first MK day (which falls on a MNSSHP night). What people are worried about is the fact that the park isn't closing in between day hours and MNSSHP hours so therefore it seems likely that many day guests will stay on for the party without tickets. Whilst they won't be able to do rides without a wristband, they could well be able to attend the outdoor shows, fireworks display and parade.

 

[mapmakerj]

If the party starts at 7:00, why is everybody in such an uproar about regular folk actually being able to stay until then? If they paid for a park admission they should be able to stay until the regular park closes! They should not be allowed to stay AFTER without a bracelet, but they should be entitled to what they paid for, same as you!

No one is saying that the regular park goers shouldn't get to stay until park closing, however, in the past the park has closed an hour before the party to allow those without tickets to leave and for the CM's to decorate. With the party starting at the same time as closing, how is it possible to evict all non ticket holders before the festivities begin? There would certainly be people getting to experience the fun without paying for the tickets which is why everyone is upset. If they are starting the party right at closing they would also have to decorate while the park was still open, losing some of the magic of seeing the park transformed as you enter the party.

 

[tjmw2727]

If the party starts at 7:00, why is everybody in such an uproar about regular folk actually being able to stay until then? If they paid for a park admission they should be able to stay until the regular park closes! They should not be allowed to stay AFTER without a bracelet, but they should be entitled to what they paid for, same as you!

Last year we went for MNSSHP. We arrived at about 5:15 and they were ALREADY closing rides in Fantasyland. We had hoped to get to the Enchanted Tiki Room before 6:00, but we were too late, it had already closed by 5:30. I was pretty ticked about it, to tell you the truth. I felt bad for the people who had come to MK expecting the park to be open til 6, only to find many of the rides, and whole areas, closed 30 mins early. That certainly wasn't fair to them, and I suspect THAT is the what has prompted the changes for this year.

Nobody's complaining about non party goers staying in the park until official closing. The issue is non paying party goers staying after the party starts and enjoying rides and shows others have paid for.

You bring up a good point, the way its done now forces the staff to transform the "regular" MK to the "party" MK while guests are present. This results in problems for day guests toward the offical closing time and some "loss of magic" for the party guests.

If it were not for the bag search issues I would prefer they go back to a true closing and clearing of the park and then re-opening for the party. I personally think the park hours will be adjusted and there will be at least an hour between closing and the start of the party again this year.

TJ