No More Lap Babies!

[kidshop]

But here's the difference AliceCC, do you live your life in fear of those statistics?

Like you my dh was diagnosed with a rare form of luekema. Never should have happen. unlike you he did not survive. So now do I live my life in constant fear that I too will come down with cancer? Nope, have not so much as changed my diet. Do I try to eat healthy? Yes, do I follow every warning and scare tatic that seems to be on the evening news. Nope.

this week it's red meat, next week it's sugar, now it's don't fly with a lap baby.

I read and try to make an informed decision. I would have no problems keeping my newborn on my lap. One projectile baby out of 50 gazzilion flights is nothing more than mass hysteria IMO.

But do you wear your seatbelt? Mass hysteria?

 

[FlyingDumbo]

Please. If you don't care enough about your child to strap them into a car seat on an airplane, fine.

But I do NOT want to be hit by your child in the even of turbulence. It would be like being hit with a bowling ball. Not good.

Hoping parents are made to buy seats for children of any age in the near future.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/18/travel/united-airlines-turbulence/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

All I had to read was the OP, the post count, and the first page of this thread to form an opinion.


This is just another notch on the belt of the mommy wars. " I am a better mother than you because" insert whatever the topic at hand is. You know what? You could get hit by a bus while walking on the sidewalk. It doesn't happen often, but walking on the sidewalk is a risk. Should we stop letting people walk there or make them all wear helmets? No. That would be ridiculous, right?

Next time, post under your real screen name if you want your thread to be taken seriously. Creating a new screen name to post something rude just smells of passive aggressive cowardliness.

 

[joviroxx]

As long as you travel with bungee cords, yes.

But do you wear your seatbelt? Mass hysteria?

Well, yeah.... the odds of having an accident and then being hurt by not being secured are rather high and actually likely, but the odds of a plane crash or situation with flying babies? Those are actually quite low , in fact, more like unlikely.

You want to restrain your baby, great, but I have no issue with lap babies on planes.

 

[kidshop]

Well, yeah.... the odds of having an accident and then being hurt by not being secured are rather high and actually likely, but the odds of a plane crash or situation with flying babies? Those are actually quite low , in fact, more like unlikely.

You want to restrain your baby, great, but I have no issue with lap babies on planes.

Why does anyone have to wear a belt on the plane then? If you feel fine wearing a restraint for safety while your baby doesn't great. It is not logical.

 

[LSmith]

No one wears seat belts on the monorail, or on the metro. No one. ( the bus issue is not one I would put a baby on if I had control over it. Driving on the streets/highways means a seat belt to me. Our school buses have belts now). I am not opposed if they want to add seat belts however.

Everyone wears seat belts in a car. Everyone and everything is secured on a plane, except for babies. I am not ok with that, not to mention it makes no sense.

What do you all do when the kid turns 2 and you have to pay? Do you then not fly anymore b/c of the expense?

Over the age of two all three of my kids have travelled to China, France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Egypt, Malta, Turkey, Italy, Greece, Morocco, Hawaii as well as 30 odd other states, most provinces in Canada, all over the Caribbean and many of the aforementioned many times over. I think that should answer your question.

 

[Laura66]

All I had to read was the OP, the post count, and the first page of this thread to form an opinion.


This is just another notch on the belt of the mommy wars. " I am a better mother than you because" insert whatever the topic at hand is. You know what? You could get hit by a bus while walking on the sidewalk. It doesn't happen often, but walking on the sidewalk is a risk. Should we stop letting people walk there or make them all wear helmets? No. That would be ridiculous, right?

Next time, post under your real screen name if you want your thread to be taken seriously. Creating a new screen name to post something rude just smells of passive aggressive cowardliness.

Excellent post! Spot on!

 

[eliza61]

But do you wear your seatbelt? Mass hysteria?

I really do think a lot of stuff is media invented hysteria Kid. for lack of a better word.

Like I said, every other week we have a new item that is "bad" for us or a new "cause" that we now have to safe guard and protect ourselves against.

I wear my belt on a plane mainly because I follow the rules, not because it makes me feel safe. when the seatbelt light goes off, I unbuckle my belt.

I also get up, move around, go to the john. In fact when I flew to Europe last may half the plane stood up as soon as humanely possible.

Last week I slipped and fell on some ice on the side walk. I have no plans on wearing a helmet when I walk the dog during the winter, nor knee pads.

 

[ColoradoDisneyFreaks]

Why does anyone have to wear a belt on the plane then? If you feel fine wearing a restraint for safety while your baby doesn't great. It is not logical.

This is a total non-sequitur, the only time you have to wear a belt on the plane is for takeoffs, landings and turbulence. All of those times, people with lap babies are instructed to sit their child on their lap facing out and hold tightly. They are restrained by the parents. So babies aren't just floating around in freefall waiting to be bounced off of someone's head.

In the few times I flew with my kiddos when they weren't infants, they were in my lap being entertained by me, not standing up, not wandering the cabin, which I see often when they're NOT lap babies and isn't any safer, but sitting in my lap being entertained, or napping, so I'm holding them.

It's completely logical, it's just not what you would do. No one on here is advocating that those who buy their kids seats not do that and fly with lap babies, so stop with the passive-aggresive put downs for the people who do fly with lap babies, doesn't make you a better parent either way.

 

[smitch425]

This is a total non-sequitur, the only time you have to wear a belt on the plane is for takeoffs, landings and turbulence.

The last few years we have flown, they have instructed us to leave our seat belts on the entire flight, except for bathroom breaks, of course.

 

[ColoradoDisneyFreaks]

The last few years we have flown, they have instructed us to leave our seat belts on the entire flight, except for bathroom breaks, of course.

The announcements I've heard have been that they "recommend" leaving belts on, not "instructed to" leave belts on, and they recommend leaving the belts on "while you are seated", so it's not a directive, it's a recommendation for while you're in your seat, you can get up and walk around all you want to.

 

[smitch425]

The announcements I've heard have been that they "recommend" leaving belts on, not "instructed to" leave belts on, and they recommend leaving the belts on "while you are seated", so it's not a directive, it's a recommendation for while you're in your seat, you can get up and walk around all you want to.

I think the announcement was worded "We ask that you remain buckled whenever seated, please." People definitely got up to stretch, DH included. He has to walk the plane to help avoid blood clots, but other than that, we wear our belts full time.

 

[Chin Chin]

The announcements I've heard have been that they "recommend" leaving belts on, not "instructed to" leave belts on, and they recommend leaving the belts on "while you are seated", so it's not a directive, it's a recommendation for while you're in your seat, you can get up and walk around all you want to.

That is not true.

The word "recommend" is never used when they tell you to please remain buckled when seated.

You have never heard an announcement stating "We recommend" It is indeed a directive during a turbulent flight that the pilot deems dangerous.

 

[sam_gordon]

How many of those saying "no lap babies" have boys who've played little league (or any organized) baseball? Did you put a facemask on their batting helmet? I know in softball a facemask is required on all batting helmets. Isn't it logical that they should be used for baseball also?

 

[Chin Chin]

How many of those saying "no lap babies" have boys who've played little league (or any organized) baseball? Did you put a facemask on their batting helmet? I know in softball a facemask is required on all batting helmets. Isn't it logical that they should be used for baseball also?

Very logical.

Our son uses a batting helmet with a face mask. Some children on the team do, some do not. It's up to the parent.

We also special order our son's football helmet. Two other parents also did this last year, and I think more will start doing it. Pricey, but worth every penny.

We can't shield them from danger 24/7, but we can use the resources given to us.

 

[kkandaj]

How many of those saying "no lap babies" have boys who've played little league (or any organized) baseball? Did you put a facemask on their batting helmet? I know in softball a facemask is required on all batting helmets. Isn't it logical that they should be used for baseball also?

I made a point like this a few pages back---there are so many activities that kids do that are much riskier than being a lap baby. Any sport, climbing trees, playing on a swingset or playground--just being a kid. I'm assuming the posters that are so adamant about "lap baby parents" being bad parents don't let their children participate in any of the above either, because they are at risk of injury.

And posters asking "how would you feel if your baby was the one that did die?" Obviously any parent that loses a child would be devastated. I would also be devastated if my kid collapsed and died playing basketball, or DD had an injury because of dance, or my kid fell off the playground and got a head injury. Any parent would be devastated and could blame themselves for lots of things.

BTW--in our league, all kids 8 and under wear face masks on their hitting helmets. I'm unsure above age 8.

 

[kidshop]

How many of those saying "no lap babies" have boys who've played little league (or any organized) baseball? Did you put a facemask on their batting helmet? I know in softball a facemask is required on all batting helmets. Isn't it logical that they should be used for baseball also?

Well, it would be more like YOU wore the extra or any protection when you played, but did not provide it for your child when they played.

 

[sam_gordon]

Well, it would be more like YOU wore the extra or any protection when you played, but did not provide it for your child when they played.

Then you're missing the point. Basically, the "no lap baby" crowd is saying parents should protect their kids from even an unlikely chance of injury. So I want to know if those parents are taking OTHER precautions to keep harm from coming to their child.

 

[theworldneedscolor]

Then you're missing the point. Basically, the "no lap baby" crowd is saying parents should protect their kids from even an unlikely chance of injury. So I want to know if those parents are taking OTHER precautions to keep harm from coming to their child.

I think you are missing the point. People are asking why every human being above two is required to wear a seat belt, but babies aren't. So the baseball analogy only correlates if the majority of the participants wear a face mask, but a very small minority is not required to.

 

[sam_gordon]

I think you are missing the point. People are asking why every human being above two is required to wear a seat belt, but babies aren't. So the baseball analogy only correlates if the majority of the participants wear a face mask, but a very small minority is not required to.

And one theory (posted in this thread) is if lap babies weren't allowed, more people would drive to their destination which would actually put the kids at MORE of a risk of injury.

People have implied (if not flat out said )those who don't get their infant a seat aren't good parents or don't love their kids. Couldn't you say the same of parents who don't put face masks on the batting helmets?

 

[PrincessBelle39]

Until I came onto the Disboards, I had never heard of anyone using a car seat on a plane. I have honestly never ever seen this.