No Expiration Tix

[mxylplik2]

The 10 day No Expiration Magic Your Way Tickets is $308 giving you an per day cost of $30.80. Not bad. Here is my question.

I know I will be going to Disney for many years - possibly 3 parks each year. The 10 day will give me three years of trips for $30/day. I have friends who will go next year with us but not sure about future years. If I buy them the 10 day no expiration tix, I heard that their names get attached to the tix upon first usage. Now, if I want to have other people use it, can it be transferred? What would happen if another person (not named on the ticket) showed up with the ticket at the park - they make you show ID that would match the name on the ticket?

 

[disneysteve]

ThNow, if I want to have other people use it, can it be transferred? What would happen if another person (not named on the ticket) showed up with the ticket at the park - they make you show ID that would match the name on the ticket?

Tickets are non-transferable. The first time you use the ticket, it records your biometrics and then matches those biometrics each time you use the ticket after that. If someone else tried to use it, it wouldn't work. Now, I'm sure there are ways around that, but that's the official answer.

 

[MickeyP]

Where did you find this price ? Or, are these non-hopper tkts? I want no-expiration-hoppers.

 

[aka-mad4themouse]

I think that the OP is basing the price off of the DisneyWorld.com website. They quote $208 for an adult 10-day MYW Base ticket and an additional $100 for the no-expiration addon for a 10-day pass. What the website does not include is the 6.5% sales tax, which brings the final cost to $328.02.

You can actually find the 10-day passes for less by purchasing them thru ticketbrokers like Ticketmania.com, DiscountOrlandoVacation.com or TheOfficialTicketCenter.com

 

[scorpad99]

I was told that the finger machine only scans the bone in your finger to show you are indeed an adult. I cant see anything that involved to know its not the same adult using the ticket each time. Most ppl dont even carry picture id on them in the parks, so I`m thinking as long as it has a female name for a female, or a mans name for a man, they wouldnt question it

 

[disneysteve]

I was told that the finger machine only scans the bone in your finger to show you are indeed an adult.

But everyone 10 and over needs to do the biometrics.

 

[shades]

Sooo...these aren't really "tied" to one single person. I know our 5 passes get mixed up everyday - nobody in our family uses the same pass everyday and we don't have any problems. We don't intentionally switch them around - DH is the fastpass "runner" and the "keeper" of our passes. They all look alike - and unless we were to write a name on each one - there isn't anyway to know which pass belongs to which person.

 

[Lorikr65]

I just got back and this year was the first year they did the finger machine each time we entered a park. Granted once or twice they didn't work and the CM just pushed a button and told us to go through.

 

[4formickey]

my son who is 4 had to have his finger scanned, so every one with a tix will get scanned.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

There are four cameras in the scanner. There is an algorithm created which includes finger length and knuckle location. It is then stored in the central ATC (Automated Ticketing System) computer. If the scan does not match what is on file a message shows up on my side of the turnstile which says "Check Identity". Normally If that happens I ask the person to try again. If it happens again I have several options.

I examine the ticket and may ask the person a question they should be able to answer about it. I can to a temporary override to allow them in. I can do a permanent override which will change the biometrics in the ATS, or, if I am very suspicious I can contact security which could lead to the confiscation of the ticket.

Note that it is a violation of Florida law to sell a partially used admission ticket to anything.

Note that children's tickets (age 3 to 9) and one day, one park tickets do not require a finger scan; all others do.

 

[shades]

I examine the ticket and may ask the person a question they should be able to answer about it. I can to a temporary override to allow them in. I can do a permanent override which will change the biometrics in the ATS, or, if I am very suspicious I can contact security which could lead to the confiscation of the ticket.

We did experience a couple of entry "delays" because of the scanner thing. I'm sure the CM's are used to family's mixing up tickets It's probably obvious when you have all but one member of a family standing on the park side of entrance - all with anxious looks on their faces - and one pitiful family member stuck outside the park because their finger scan won't work with one of these going on

 

[disneysteve]

Cheshire Figment - I'm really curious how much trouble it has been since all adult tickets have used biometrics. I think a lot of folks are like shades and don't keep track of which ticket is whose. Personally, we do keep track and put our names on them so each of us always uses the same one but I'm sure lots of guests don't. You must constantly have to override the system to let people in, which kind of defeats the purpose of the system. Curious to hear more about this.

 

[HaleyB]

If a group of tickets is bought at the same time they are linked in the system. As I understand it, the system can 'see' that the bioscan is a match for any linked ticket. So as long as you buy your tickets together it is not a problem.

My question is, does the new system take longer? It felt like it did.

 

[shades]

If a group of tickets is bought at the same time they are linked in the system. As I understand it, the system can 'see' that the bioscan is a match for any linked ticket. So as long as you buy your tickets together it is not a problem.

My question is, does the new system take longer? It felt like it did.

We buy our tickets at a military base - so, how would the "system" know they were all purchased together, other than consecutive serial numbers on the tickets, possibly? Same with tickets purchased from a travel agent? And, if the "system can 'see' that a bioscan is a match for any linked ticket," then why would one member of our family get stuck because the bioscan can't/will not accept her "finger" - especially, after we have already used all of the tickets a couple of days and are well into our vacation and our bioscans/tickets are already in the system.

just wondering -

 

[bicker]

I was told that the finger machine only scans the bone in your finger to show you are indeed an adult. I cant see anything that involved to know its not the same adult using the ticket each time.

That's not the case. The biometrics are different from person-to-person, like fingerprints (though not as accurate). Found this, related to the most sophisticated hand geometry biometric devices:

Accuracy

• Cross-over error rate: 0.2 - 2.2%
• false accept rate: < 0.1%
• three-try false reject rate: < 0.1%

[Source: Sandia National Laboratories]

Disney is deliberately not using one of the most accurate systems, to assuage privacy concerns. I'd guess their devices are closer to 85% accurate. Still, that would keep five people out of six from using someone else's admission pass.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

If a group of tickets is bought at the same time they are linked in the system. As I understand it, the system can 'see' that the bioscan is a match for any linked ticket. So as long as you buy your tickets together it is not a problem.

This will get a green light and the phrase "Different User".

Most people will use their right hand as the turnstiles are set up for that. Sometimes I have people use their left hand and get rejected; I ask if that is the hand they used the first time, and they switch to the right hand and it works.

I personally use an ECV in the parks as I have a problem with walking but not standing in one place. I will use my left hand becuase it is more convenient for me with the gate location for driving my ECV.