No divorce marriage clause?

[Missy Mouse]

What's the point of the prenup if you are going to have the divorce clause? If the caluse gets broken does that mean the prenup is voided?

The prenup could be the divorce clause itself. Or it could be the only two reasons to divorce are the ones given in the prenuptial agreement.

 

[L107ANGEL]

If that was the law, would you have picked the same person to marry? Or would you not get married ever?

I'm not sure I am following this one. Are you saying if it were against the law to divorce, would I have still married my ex husband or current one?

 

[Missy Mouse]

No, I'm definitely not in favor of putting all the divorced people in jail.

We were talking about this last night at a birthday party. The response was very divided and it was interesting to hear what people thought. The opinions varied from absolutely opposed, to yes but with an abuse stipulation, to definitely in favor for. The ones who were in favor for had been together 37 years.

 

[Missy Mouse]

I'm not sure I am following this one. Are you saying if it were against the law to divorce, would I have still married my ex husband or current one?

Current.

 

[FSUGrad97]

You can't go to jail for breaking a promise to God, but you can for breaking the law. That paper would be a legal document. Of course, you'll have to answer to God when you get to the pearly gates.

If a couple violated your "no divorce" clause, as in most marriage/divorce issues, it would be a civil matter, not criminal.

 

[Missy Mouse]

Your clause, as well as most marriage/divorce issues, would be a civil matter, not criminal. In other words, civil courts hear these cases.

I'm talking about if this clause had criminal consequences.

 

[L107ANGEL]

Wait a minute, so if one of the spouses wants out, for a reason not stipulated, there would be a criminal consequence Like what?

 

[lovemygoofy]

I'm talking about if this clause had criminal consequences.

There are no criminial laws intact now for such unless domestic abuse or other kinds of abuse. So if for not these reasons, then wouldn't both people go to jail since they both have to sign divorce papers.

 

[lovemygoofy]

Wait a minute, so if one of the spouses wants out, for a reason not stipulated, there would be a criminal consequence Like what?

whipping you with a wet noodle and have to listen to endless statements of what a sinner you are

 

[L107ANGEL]

whipping you with a wet noodle and have to listen to endless statements of what a sinner you are

I'm thinking if I want out and I am forced to stay with him, while I am pissed off, is a worse punishment for him then any court can hand down

 

[lovemygoofy]

I'm thinking if I want out and I am forced to stay with him, while I am pissed off, is a worse punishment for him then any court can hand down

just don't leave bruises where it can be seen in public

 

[FSUGrad97]

I'm talking about if this clause had criminal consequences.

Where are you going to put all of the people who violate this clause - on an island?

 

[L107ANGEL]

just don't leave bruises where it can be seen in public

Where are you going to put all of the people who violate this clause - on an island?

That sounds like my kinda place!

 

[Missy Mouse]

I'm thinking if I want out and I am forced to stay with him, while I am pissed off, is a worse punishment for him then any court can hand down

 

[Missy Mouse]

Where are you going to put all of the people who violate this clause - on an island?

LOL. I don't think this law should really exist, and I can't believe divorce is punishable in other countries. I would be willing to try it if it did though. Call me a glutton for punishment.

 

[mickeysaver]

I ran this past my partner and she said, "Ok.....if there is a "no divorce" clause, is there some sort of clause included that if both people get miserable with one another that they both can sleep around?!?!"

A "no divorce" clause is sort of redundant in a prenup. The prenup is a contract that says what will be the agreement if the legal partnership falls apart. So I don't quite see how a "no divorce" clause would work in a prenup. Maggie

 

[L107ANGEL]

I ran this past my partner and she said, "Ok.....if there is a "no divorce" clause, is there some sort of clause included that if both people get miserable with one another that they both can sleep around?!?!"

A "no divorce" clause is sort of redundant in a prenup. The prenup is a contract that says what will be the agreement if the legal partnership falls apart. So I don't quite see how a "no divorce" clause would work in a prenup. Maggie

 

[Acklander]

I also ask this because I was reading something on the divorce rates in America compared to other countries and how couples aren't allowed to divorce because they don't like each other, argue,or fall out of love. Not being able to divorce except for in extreme circumstances is supposed to make the citizens have to work on their marriages but it could never work here because of all the freedom we have.

I'd rather live in a country that has a higher divorce rate and our freedoms than a country with a lower divorce rate and less freedoms.
Besides, it's not that other countries have a lower divorce rate than us because they're more committed to their marriage or work harder at it. It's because it's considered acceptable that, if a couple has lost interest in each other, that they have an "understanding" and live their own lives even though still married to each other. OR, if you're living on one of the really oppressed countries, they just stone the woman to death for committing such sins as cheating, nagging, not giving birth to a son, or whatever else they can blame women for.

 

[KristinBelle]

I voted no but I would never have a prenuptial agreement to begin with.

 

[Camicar]

people were forced to try and work things out.

Do you truly believe that is what happened? I think it's more likely that people lived miserably. Yes, probably some did try and work it out, but it's not marriage being 'easily' dissolved by divorce that is the problem in our society -- it's that EVERYTHING is disposable to us the moment we no longer want it or it becomes inconvenient in the slightest. In our society we don't stick to anything or anyone, including our spouses. Making marriages 'no divorce' just won't work when we are all so self-absorbed and full of entitlement. "I'm entitled to be ecstatically happy every second of my marriage/ I'm entitled to have my spouse's full attention, even though we've just had a baby./ I'm entitled to having the opportunity to do whatever I want whenever I want even though we have children./ I'm entitled to always having a good time with my friends so if my friend is going through a rough patch I am entitled to drop them like a hot potato instantly/ I'm entitled to screw over my long term employees because I can add a little something to the bottom line./ I'm entitled sleep late and stroll into work whenever I want regardless of how it affects others..." ad nauseum.

Marriages are easily disposed of in our society because we do not value each other for anything more than what they can do FOR US RIGHT NOW.

And on a final note, I watched my parents battle out a marriage while insisting on 'no divorce.' What that meant was that my father got to treat my mother like crap, then eventually refuse to work for a living and sponge off of her because what was she going to do? Divorce him? (At which point he would smirk and turn back to the tv.) Finally, after years of us asking her to do so, she finally left and divorced him. No divorce clauses only work if both parties stay committed to each other and the marriage in perpetuity. Unfortunately, none of us can see into the future and see that our beloved spouse will turn into a liar, a cheat, etc.