Nikon D5300 with Nikon 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G would this work for ride pictures.

[dis261]

I have a Nikon D5300 with a Nikon 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S... Will this work for dark ride pics at Disney World. I know the aperture is high with 3.5 but the ISO for this camera can be set 25600 . Also what settings would be good for fireworks,inside pics,parade,etc... Thank you,

 

[havoc315]

I have a Nikon D5300 with a Nikon 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S... Will this work for dark ride pics at Disney World. I know the aperture is high with 3.5 but the ISO for this camera can be set 25600 . Also what settings would be good for fireworks,inside pics,parade,etc... Thank you,

No, it wouldn't work well for dark rides. First off, it's only 3.5 at 18mm. So you need to be totally zoomed out, to get the 3.5. That 3.5 is about 2 stops slower than most people use for low light lenses (1.4-1.8 lenses).


Secondly, while the camera might be capable of 25600, it will looks absolutely horrible. Take a look at the comparison shots on dpreview. At best, your 25600 shots can look okay as tiny low resolution webshots.


So purely in terms of exposure -- Using 25600 and 3.5, is about the same as someone else using 1.8 and 6400. So it can technically give you the right exposure, but 25600 will look horrible, while 6400 can still look decent.

As to your other question --- Settings vary significantly depending on more than just "parade." A parade at night will be very different than a parade on a sunny day. Are you close to the parade or far away? Do you want to capture specific elements and characters in detail during the parade, or do you want to get a wide shot of the whole parade? Do you plan on using a powerful flash?

Easier to answer for fireworks .... If you like the wonderful fireworks pics popping up on this board.. Such as this mediocre July 4th shot of mine...


untitled-31.jpg by Havoc315, on Flickr

For shots like that... You need to set your camera on a tripod. Set the ISO to 100. Set a long shutter speed -- minimum of 5 seconds. Could go to 30 seconds or longer, but you would need an ND filter for that. Stop down the aperture --- f14 or smaller, depending on your shutter speed. Using a remote shutter release, or use your shutter timer, to prevent motion blur.

 

[dis261]

Thank you for your advice. One lens that I found on amazon and was in my price range was the Nikon 50mm f/1.8D AF Nikkor Lens for Nikon Digital SLR Cameras
but it will only work with manual focus. I am new to dslr so would this be a good choice or just try to make the 18-140mm lens work.

 

[havoc315]

Thank you for your advice. One lens that I found on amazon and was in my price range was the Nikon 50mm f/1.8D AF Nikkor Lens for Nikon Digital SLR Cameras
but it will only work with manual focus. I am new to dslr so would this be a good choice or just try to make the 18-140mm lens work.

Manual focus may sound scary, but it's not super technical.

Still, you're probably best served by the Nikon AF-S lenses. The 35/1.8 and 50/1.8 should be just slightly more expensive than the lens you were looking at. The 35/1.8 would be best for dark rides. 50 can be a big too zoomed in at times.

($175 refurbished at B&H.. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ed_AF_S_Nikkor_35mm.htmlBI=225&kw=RBN3518DXAF)

 

[Daisy14'sDH]

The kit lens will work fine for Fireworks, they're usually shot between f8 and f16 depending on exposure length and intensity of the show. but you will need a tripod. Dark rides are a lot tougher to shoot. If you frustrate easily don't even bother trying lol, but if you are willing to go at it, pump up your ISO and learn how to process. I've read good things about the 5300's ISO capabilities, maybe you can start a new thing here on the DisBoards with super high ISO shots

 

[photo_chick]

I have a Nikon D5300 with a Nikon 18-140mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S... Will this work for dark ride pics at Disney World. I know the aperture is high with 3.5 but the ISO for this camera can be set 25600 . Also what settings would be good for fireworks,inside pics,parade,etc... Thank you,

f/3.5 at ISO 25600 will technically get you the dark ride shots and if you can live with the noise at that ISO setting on your camera then go for it. Some here can't, some can. It's your call.

I like Daisy14'sDH's suggestion about a high ISO thread. Too many discount higher ISO settings when you can get a very useable final image if you shoot for the noise and process it well.

 

[havoc315]

f/3.5 at ISO 25600 will technically get you the dark ride shots and if you can live with the noise at that ISO setting on your camera then go for it. Some here can't, some can. It's your call.

I like Daisy14'sDH's suggestion about a high ISO thread. Too many discount higher ISO settings when you can get a very useable final image if you shoot for the noise and process it well.

Sounds fun.... So what's the threshold for "high" ISO?

 

[photo_chick]

Sounds fun.... So what's the threshold for "high" ISO?

My idea of high ISO is 6400 or higher. Many cameras today can do 3200 well enough that it's not longer an avoided speed like it was a few years ago.

 

[havoc315]

My idea of high ISO is 6400 or higher. Many cameras today can do 3200 well enough that it's not longer an avoided speed like it was a few years ago.

But wouldn't you feel like you were cheating with your 6D at 6400?

In reality, I'd say "high" ISO would be *above* 6400 on full frame, *above* 3200 on APS-C and other cameras.

When I was still shooting with APS-C, I'd still avoid 3200 except when necessary.

 

[photo_chick]

But wouldn't you feel like you were cheating with your 6D at 6400?

In reality, I'd say "high" ISO would be *above* 6400 on full frame, *above* 3200 on APS-C and other cameras.

When I was still shooting with APS-C, I'd still avoid 3200 except when necessary.

3200 when ETTR and processed well was pretty clean with my 50D which is a crop body. And that camera is several years old now.

ISO 6400 is my standard setting for dance when using the 6D (and I use an f/4 lens because it's lighter). When unprocessed it's still pretty noisy, I'd put it about even with ISO 1600 from my 50D noise wise. But if you look at a camera like the 5DmkII, it's ISO 6400 is a hairy mess that's not really much better than current crop bodies. So it's hard to apply a standard to a class of cameras. It's where judgement and subjectivity come in. I would probably only submit ISO 25600 shots from my 6D.

ISO 6400 is also beyond what was readily available with film at the corner drug store. Really, most people never shot above ISO 1600 with film. Just something to think about.