News Round Up 2020

[firefly_ris]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1284692080208551936

Have you heard her? How is she?

 

[Helvetica]

I wasn’t able to get a boarding group at 1pm... I’m going back for a nap. Maybe I’ll get lucky at 4pm?

Edit: Posted in the wrong thread, sorry about that.

 

[rteetz]

Have you heard her? How is she?

I have not. I’d imagine they’ve already done some stuff with her. They usually try some different things and see how they do before giving a full time role.

 

[jknezek]

Jungle Cruise was pushed to Summer 2021 so that still has time on its side. That’s one they’ll try hard to get into theaters.

I know it was. But when I look at all the stuff they are compressing, I'd think this is one they'd rather push to D+ than a Marvel film or a live action remake. Those are more guaranteed to thrive in what will be a very compressed and crowded release schedule next year. Jungle Cruise could definitely get steamrolled since it comes with no lead. Kind of like Call of the Wild, which was actually pretty decent. I love that book and was apprehensive about the movie, but think they did a decent job. And it absolutely bombed in theaters. It's going to be even harder for non-sequel, non-big name movies next year with everyone holding off.

 

[skeeter31]

I know it was. But when I look at all the stuff they are compressing, I'd think this is one they'd rather push to D+ than a Marvel film or a live action remake. Those are more guaranteed to thrive in what will be a very compressed and crowded release schedule next year. Jungle Cruise could definitely get steamrolled since it comes with no lead. Kind of like Call of the Wild, which was actually pretty decent. I love that book and was apprehensive about the movie, but think they did a decent job. And it absolutely bombed in theaters. It's going to be even harder for non-sequel, non-big name movies next year with everyone holding off.

But a movie staring The Rock and Emily Blunt is pretty much as A list as you can get these days. There’s next to no way Disney pushes that to Disney+ unless they decide to move all movies to streaming. That’s a tent pole that they’re banking their summer on.

 

[Jrb1979]

At that point I wonder if they would just have a general discount going vs specifying what states people are from.

Seems like attendance at all parks other than DHS is well below capacity. I wonder if they could create a package that is heavily discounted but then would give you access only to the other three parks

I'm not surprised that attendance is lower then expected. King's Island is closed Wednesday and Thursday now and no longer requiring reservations. People aren't going to the parks like hoped.

 

[rteetz]

I know it was. But when I look at all the stuff they are compressing, I'd think this is one they'd rather push to D+ than a Marvel film or a live action remake. Those are more guaranteed to thrive in what will be a very compressed and crowded release schedule next year. Jungle Cruise could definitely get steamrolled since it comes with no lead. Kind of like Call of the Wild, which was actually pretty decent. I love that book and was apprehensive about the movie, but think they did a decent job. And it absolutely bombed in theaters. It's going to be even harder for non-sequel, non-big name movies next year with everyone holding off.

Jungle Cruise is what they wanted billed as their big summer blockbuster. I would be shocked if they moved that to Disney+. It has the Rock and Emily Blunt.

 

[jknezek]

But a movie staring The Rock and Emily Blunt is pretty much as A list as you can get these days. There’s next to no way Disney pushes that to Disney+ unless they decide to move all movies to streaming. That’s a tent pole that they’re banking their summer on.

Next year will be a very odd year. The way it is going, every company is going to put out tentpole films multiple times during the summer season. That's.... unsustainable. There are going to be pushes to 2022, since production has slowed so much, but the point is, there are more tentpole movies set for next summer than it is possible to make money on. Disney probably has more, by themselves, then they can avoid cannibalizing themselves. It's just not feasible. We will see. Maybe things clean up and December and Spring Break will get some extra blockbusters to help spread stuff out.

But when you have multiple tentpoles everywhere, you don't have enough people to get under the canvas...

 

[Brianstl]

I'm not surprised that attendance is lower then expected. King's Island is closed Wednesday and Thursday now and no longer requiring reservations. People aren't going to the parks like hoped.

I doubt attendance is below what they expected.

 

[Jrb1979]

I doubt attendance is below what they expected.

I do. I believe they thought the resort reservations would be full every day and they aren't. Why else are they offering room discounts and selling day tickets.

 

[Gusey]

Do you think there would be any chance that new films might come out internationally before in the US if movie theatres open? Heard rumours that the movie theatres in UK will be open soon, but mainly just showing films that have already released, (e.g. Star Wars, Jurassic Park like films)?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Next year will be a very odd year. The way it is going, every company is going to put out tentpole films multiple times during the summer season. That's.... unsustainable. There are going to be pushes to 2022, since production has slowed so much, but the point is, there are more tentpole movies set for next summer than it is possible to make money on. Disney probably has more, by themselves, then they can avoid cannibalizing themselves. It's just not feasible. We will see. Maybe things clean up and December and Spring Break will get some extra blockbusters to help spread stuff out.

But when you have multiple tentpoles everywhere, you don't have enough people to get under the canvas...

if everything is a tent pole then nothing is a tent pole

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I doubt attendance is below what they expected.

no idea how much but if they weren't wanting to increase attendance why would they have 40% AP and 35% Florida Residenct discounts going now?

 

[YesterDark]

Not sure how they could further reduce and not increase losses. They’d be better off staying closer than reduce capacity further.

They can reduce park hours, that can reduce park availability. Like MK is only open M/W/Fri/Sa etc.
They can reduce park attractions.
They can reduce a lot of things.

 

[The Pho]

Does not bode well for Mulan

https://twitter.com/x/status/1285250691540426757

Not quite as ominous as it sounds. The plan is still to release Tenet in 2020, but not in the previously planned manner. Instead of the traditional worldwide release for a major blockbuster, it’ll be coming out in waves where and when it can. Seems the US rollout is planned to begin September 11th, where they moved Conjuring from. But obviously no plans are concrete these days.

https://deadline.com/2020/07/tenet-release-date-moved-new-strategy-coronavirus-1202970413/

 

[rteetz]

They can reduce park hours, that can reduce park availability. Like MK is only open M/W/Fri/Sa etc.
They can reduce park attractions.
They can reduce a lot of things.

Right but at what point then is it not worth it anymore?

 

[rteetz]

News

https://blogmickey.com/2020/07/adul...atuli-canteen-in-pandora-the-world-of-avatar/

 

[CastAStone]

Next year will be a very odd year. The way it is going, every company is going to put out tentpole films multiple times during the summer season. That's.... unsustainable. There are going to be pushes to 2022, since production has slowed so much, but the point is, there are more tentpole movies set for next summer than it is possible to make money on. Disney probably has more, by themselves, then they can avoid cannibalizing themselves. It's just not feasible. We will see. Maybe things clean up and December and Spring Break will get some extra blockbusters to help spread stuff out.

But when you have multiple tentpoles everywhere, you don't have enough people to get under the canvas...

OTOH There's been minimal to no film production for 4 months now and it looks like it will be difficult to film much for the next 6 months. So 2022 will have no tentpoles without some delays of 2021 films.

I doubt attendance is below what they expected.

You're talking about Kings Island? On the last Cedar Fair earnings call they were boasting about how good they were at running parks at a profit on very low attendance days; I'm pretty sure they were expecting to be able to keep the parks open 7 days a week.

 

[BBCM]

They can reduce park hours, that can reduce park availability. Like MK is only open M/W/Fri/Sa etc.
They can reduce park attractions.
They can reduce a lot of things.

One park open a day for 6 hours is not a way to get tourists to come back to your theme park.

The next thing they are most likely to do it to reduce ride operations - shutting down some of the rides...but because most of their parks have a limited number of rides and since they've already closed to shows - that's a risk as well.

I think we'll be lucky if the state doesn't decide it has to close down again. Florida is a hotbed mess.

 

[tlmadden73]

OTOH There's been minimal to no film production for 4 months now and it looks like it will be difficult to film much for the next 6 months. So 2022 will have no tentpoles without some delays of 2021 films.

You're talking about Kings Island? On the last Cedar Fair earnings call they were boasting about how good they were at running parks at a profit on very low attendance days; I'm pretty sure they were expecting to be able to keep the parks open 7 days a week.

For films .. I really don't see how any films come out right now and make money UNLESS they do what Trolls World Tour did and release them to Streaming for $20-30 a rental. They may just have to do that .. even if theatres opened up today (which they won't) . .how many people are going to be comfortable going to one until 2021? I'd rather go to WDW than sit in a movie theatre right now with a bunch of teenagers in charge of cleaning.

As for King's Island ..I may have to look into how much tickets are
We plan on going on a cross-country journey to visit family and might and Cincinnati is our usual stopping point. Not sure if it would be worth it with a 7 and 3 yo .. but all depends on the price (and restrictions).

.... and ....... .. $45 (while a great price compared to say WDW and other theme parks in general, not sure if we are ready to drop $200 on something we probably will spend half day at (especially if crowds are super low) .. .. may look into at the After 3 pm ticket as well. Something fun to consider while traveling to try and make a trip to visit family into a "vacation".