News Round Up 2020

[TwoMisfits]

Very good point. I hadn't thought about that. But the new Frontier City hours would let them work basically one shift of people, maybe with a bit of OT.

It helps that I'm seeing it all over in my area. Entertainment venues, like my bowling alleys, laser tag, mini golf and malls, either at open or within a week of open are switching to 11am-7pm, 12-8pm or 1-9pm shifts for the week as "posted permanent hours". It doesn't matter what the hours were before - they are making them single shift needed hours...

And then the bowling alley, after 10 days open, decided to close Mon-Tues today. When I was gonna take the kids today...sigh...we're now going Wednesday. Other sites are doing the same, but all picking differing weekdays (everyone stays open on the weekends).

PS - The outdoor mini golf annoys me in this heat wave b/c noon to 8pm is just too dang hot...last year, it opened at 10am...

 

[tlmadden73]

It helps that I'm seeing it all over in my area. Entertainment venues, like my bowling alleys, laser tag, mini golf and malls, either at open or within a week of open are switching to 11am-7pm, 12-8pm or 1-9pm shifts for the week as "posted permanent hours". It doesn't matter what the hours were before - they are making them single shift needed hours...

And then the bowling alley, after 10 days open, decided to close Mon-Tues today. When I was gonna take the kids today...sigh...we're now going Wednesday. Other sites are doing the same, but all picking differing weekdays (everyone stays open on the weekends).

PS - The outdoor mini golf annoys me in this heat wave b/c noon to 8pm is just too dang hot...last year, it opened at 10am...

That's the problem ... some of these things will become downward spirals .. nothing has consistent or "regular" hours anymore (which .. I don't blame them .. why be open when no one is coming) .. but those inconsistent hours make it inconvenient for your customers that DO want to come .. and thus they stop coming .. which means LESS people are coming .. and a business may just have to end up closing again altogether.

Obviously WDW will not have that issue, but could see way less attendance than anticipated .. if they continue to pair back on hours or experiences. I am sure they will be running at "low capacity" a lot longer than they wanted.

I guess Florida doesn't have "record" cases or deaths today since you don't see those headlines everywhere. So that's a good thing.

 

[jknezek]

That's the problem ... some of these things will become downward spirals .. nothing has consistent or "regular" hours anymore (which .. I don't blame them .. why be open when no one is coming) .. but those inconsistent hours make it inconvenient for your customers that DO want to come .. and thus they stop coming .. which means LESS people are coming .. and a business may just have to end up closing again altogether.

Obviously WDW will not have that issue, but could see way less attendance than anticipated .. if they continue to pair back on hours or experiences. I am sure they will be running at "low capacity" a lot longer than they wanted.

I guess Florida doesn't have "record" cases or deaths today since you don't see those headlines everywhere. So that's a good thing.

I don't know if it's a record or not, I don't track it. But another day of well over 10K new resident cases. 90 new resident deaths. https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/

 

[jade1]

Now that they are open where are all those people that wanted parks open?

What number are/were you expecting? What are you basing this on? 10? 100 on here (the dis) maybe at most?

I would guess at least 250,000 guests have gone into the 4 WDW parks these 2 weeks. That would only be 4,500 guests per park per day.

Giving people a choice to do things is one thing. People still have to choose what they want to do.

 

[tlmadden73]

Now that they are open where are all those people that wanted parks open?

My guess is:
1) Not many (especially those coming from out of state) wants to be the "first" and wants to see how things are like (how crowded it is, safety precautions, etc).

2) I am sure a lot of non-locals cancelled their July trips at the last minute with the rising Florida numbers.

3) It is the middle of July during a huge heat wave. . I don't think anyone is "rushing" to go a theme park while wearing a mask.

.. and a lot of people (except locals) are just going to wait until "later" . .whatever that is to each individual. Either:
When it is "safer" . .when there are less cases ... when there are no masks required .. when the M&Gs open back up .. when there are fireworks ... when their favorite hotel is open, etc.

I am sure many people may now decide to come down (even if they didn't have anything planned) now that they've seen the crowds and safety measures. With the pictures I've seen .. I would feel safer at WDW than at my local Wal-Mart or restaurant.

I know I am tempted to hop in the car today and drive down simply because of those crowd levels .. I just still can't justify the ticket cost for a watered down and restricted experience, unless I had an AP (which I only have for one of us). I am thinking about a November trip right now... IF I can purchase APs by then (and they don't raise the prices again).

 

[Jrb1979]

My guess is:
1) Not many (especially those coming from out of state) wants to be the "first" and wants to see how things are like (how crowded it is, safety precautions, etc).

2) I am sure a lot of non-locals cancelled their July trips at the last minute with the rising Florida numbers.

3) It is the middle of July during a huge heat wave. . I don't think anyone is "rushing" to go a theme park while wearing a mask.

.. and a lot of people (except locals) are just going to wait until "later" . .whatever that is to each individual. Either:
When it is "safer" . .when there are less cases ... when there are no masks required .. when the M&Gs open back up .. when there are fireworks ... when their favorite hotel is open, etc.

I am sure many people may now decide to come down (even if they didn't have anything planned) now that they've seen the crowds and safety measures. With the pictures I've seen .. I would feel safer at WDW than at my local Wal-Mart or restaurant.

I know I am tempted to hop in the car today and drive down simply because of those crowd levels .. I just still can't justify the ticket cost for a watered down and restricted experience, unless I had an AP (which I only have for one of us). I am thinking about a November trip right now... IF I can purchase APs by then (and they don't raise the prices again).

Its not just Disney feeling the lack of attendance. Local parks as well. Many are dropping the reservation system as they are finding people just aren't going.

 

[jade1]

Its not just Disney feeling the lack of attendance. Local parks as well. Many are dropping the reservation system as they are finding people just aren't going.

I'm blaming the Pandemic, but I'm no doctor.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I'm blaming the Pandemic, but I'm no doctor.

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is that a clear mask that the emoticon is wearing or did they find a mask printed with the exact smile on it to match up with their own?

 

[jade1]

is that a clear mask that the emoticon is wearing or did they find a mask printed with the exact smile on it to match up with their own?

I think he did the photomask.

 

[dlavender]

The thing is, I don't think they are discounting at all really. Nobody really ever pays rack rate. I have no doubt that everyone getting the discount is paying more than room was rented out for last year at the same time.

I agree.

For example first or second weekend in August POP is $158/night with the AP discount.

Not exactly screaming book me, IMO.

 

[siren0119]

My guess is:
1) Not many (especially those coming from out of state) wants to be the "first" and wants to see how things are like (how crowded it is, safety precautions, etc).

2) I am sure a lot of non-locals cancelled their July trips at the last minute with the rising Florida numbers.

3) It is the middle of July during a huge heat wave. . I don't think anyone is "rushing" to go a theme park while wearing a mask.

.. and a lot of people (except locals) are just going to wait until "later" . .whatever that is to each individual. Either:
When it is "safer" . .when there are less cases ... when there are no masks required .. when the M&Gs open back up .. when there are fireworks ... when their favorite hotel is open, etc.

I am sure many people may now decide to come down (even if they didn't have anything planned) now that they've seen the crowds and safety measures. With the pictures I've seen .. I would feel safer at WDW than at my local Wal-Mart or restaurant.

I know I am tempted to hop in the car today and drive down simply because of those crowd levels .. I just still can't justify the ticket cost for a watered down and restricted experience, unless I had an AP (which I only have for one of us). I am thinking about a November trip right now... IF I can purchase APs by then (and they don't raise the prices again).

Add in that some states are requiring a 14 day quarantine upon returning home, that was enough for us to nix any thoughts of traveling to Disney in the near future even if the numbers in FL were looking better.

 

[rteetz]

News

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...ding-at-target/?CMP=SOC-DPFY20Q4wo0716200012A

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Add in that some states are requiring a 14 day quarantine upon returning home, that was enough for us to nix any thoughts of traveling to Disney in the near future even if the numbers in FL were looking better.

Yeah, it really is everything related to traveling to Disney that is the biggest thing preventing us from even considering a trip.

The thought of flying or driving 20+ hours to get to a state with not so great looking statistics where I then are to quarantine for 2 weeks, and then another two weeks when I get back home, etc

There is really nothing Disney can do to get me to travel to Disney at this point

 

[CastAStone]

Yeah, it really is everything related to traveling to Disney that is the biggest thing preventing us from even considering a trip.

The thought of flying or driving 20+ hours to get to a state with not so great looking statistics where I then are to quarantine for 2 weeks, and then another two weeks when I get back home, etc

There is really nothing Disney can do to get me to travel to Disney at this point

Yeah, Disney could give me free passes, unlimited line skips, and a free stay in a suite at Grand Flo and we'd still pass. Not flying, Not doing 2 days in a car with the boys, not wanting to take that risk for my family right now, and perhaps more than anything, not looking to hear what my mother would say if we did go.

When your usual trick to drive sales is price discounting it is very tempting to pull that lever but if there is a barrier out of your control, it doesn't help and your revenue actually declines. This happens a lot in business. Disney focusing their discounts on Floridians and APs and only on hotels is smart business. A substantial percentage of those guests don't need hotels but will take them at the right price. For people who have to fly, a discount is like "oh that's cute".

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Looks like Jose had one too many Caipirinhas

https://twitter.com/x/status/1285680486136918017

 

[dina444444]

Looks like Jose had one too many Caipirinhas

https://twitter.com/x/status/1285680486136918017

I saw this on fb earlier, reminds me of the detached Ursula.

 

[Brianstl]

Looks like Jose had one too many Caipirinhas

https://twitter.com/x/status/1285680486136918017

Jose has been drinking with John from CoP.

 

[Rosanne]

Yeah, it really is everything related to traveling to Disney that is the biggest thing preventing us from even considering a trip.

The thought of flying or driving 20+ hours to get to a state with not so great looking statistics where I then are to quarantine for 2 weeks, and then another two weeks when I get back home, etc

There is really nothing Disney can do to get me to travel to Disney at this point

We drove down from 11 p.m. until 10 a.m. through the night and the rest areas and roads were so quiet it was awesome.
Driving back up, traffic wasn't bad and we made it in 10 hours (I didn't pull over to nap for an hour) but less than half the people were wearing masks at the crowded rest areas.
I'm more concerned about having picked something up from the rest areas than from Disney.

P.S. Not having any symptoms. I'm just observing.

 

[rteetz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1285743616695193600

 

[dina444444]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1285743616695193600

A little sad. I liked the ice cream. Hopefully a different ice cream company will take over the space.