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What I mean is, for people without APs, they can buy a party ticket for about the same amount as another day in the park. With that, they get in at 4 for regular hours, then get the extra stuff from 7-midnight. That is reasonable. For APs, who've already paid up front for their year's admission, it means another $406 for my family of 4 for the exclusive 7-midnight party time that we wouldn't have access to as APs. The discount on the Christmas party this year is only $5. In pricing a trip for December, our go-to off site condo is $460 for five nights. I can't justify $406 for 5 hours when I could use almost that same amount and do a whole other off-site trip! Especially since more and more people are saying the parties are way more crowded than they have been in the past. I felt that way about last year's Halloween Party. I think we'll be saving parties or other ticketed events (if we do them) for years when we don't have APs.

ok, then not really the party that is the issue, more the extra time you get in early that you don't need a park day ticket for if you only have the hard ticket event. Which, obviously is not something extra to those already with APs ... that I could see and maybe they should offer bigger discounts to those with APs then
 

What I mean is, for people without APs, they can buy a party ticket for about the same amount as another day in the park. With that, they get in at 4 for regular hours, then get the extra stuff from 7-midnight. That is reasonable. For APs, who've already paid up front for their year's admission, it means another $406 for my family of 4 for the exclusive 7-midnight party time that we wouldn't have access to as APs. The discount on the Christmas party this year is only $5. In pricing a trip for December, our go-to off site condo is $460 for five nights. I can't justify $406 for 5 hours when I could use almost that same amount and do a whole other off-site trip! Especially since more and more people are saying the parties are way more crowded than they have been in the past. I felt that way about last year's Halloween Party. I think we'll be saving parties or other ticketed events (if we do them) for years when we don't have APs.

The discount they give for passholders is ridiculously small, especially taking into consideration we don’t get an extra three hours. The AP discount should be close to what the military discount tickets are. I’d even be ok with them limiting it to one heavily discounted ticket per passholder per party season. Then they could please (more) passholders, give us a real benefit, but not have too high a percentage of tickets sold at such a “low” price.
 
The discount they give for passholders is ridiculously small, especially taking into consideration we don’t get an extra three hours. The AP discount should be close to what the military discount tickets are. I’d even be ok with them limiting it to one heavily discounted ticket per passholder per party season. Then they could please (more) passholders, give us a real benefit, but not have too high a percentage of tickets sold at such a “low” price.

I agree - there are small things they could do to really benefit passholder without totally crushing the system

I think you idea of getting into one party per season at like 50% off or something (maybe have it not valid on Halloween, etc) is reasonable ... also think they should do something for FP like give you 1 anytime/any ride FP per month or like 5 per year or something - just to make getting on new rides more doable (maybe have it not valid first month a ride is open or something)

Things like that I think k would go a long way and not totally destroy their system
 
I agree - there are small things they could do to really benefit passholder without totally crushing the system

I think you idea of getting into one party per season at like 50% off or something (maybe have it not valid on Halloween, etc) is reasonable ... also think they should do something for FP like give you 1 anytime/any ride FP per month or like 5 per year or something - just to make getting on new rides more doable (maybe have it not valid first month a ride is open or something)

Things like that I think k would go a long way and not totally destroy their system

I've always pushed the idea of a small number of early bookings or anytime FP per year, but I also really like the idea someone else mentioned earlier of getting 1 FP per year for the newest rides. Would spread it out and keep someone from using them all on FoP or the Star Wars rides when it opens. X number of anytimes would be easiest, but don't those always exclude the in demand rides?
 
I’d even be ok with them limiting it to one heavily discounted ticket per passholder per party season. Then they could please (more) passholders, give us a real benefit, but not have too high a percentage of tickets sold at such a “low” price.

This! That would keep folks from getting just one AP per family for discounts and allowing those of us who actually pay for APs for our whole family the ability to buy a deep discounted ticket for each of us to attend. With DS about to hit the 3yo paid mark, extra things x 4 are getting further out of reach. Disney doesn't care about this, though. They've got our money as APs and they don't NEED us to come to extra events because other people are already buying them out.
 
Well, if they could make a FAMILY AP I think that would be a good direction.

The way it is now, if you buy one AP you get extras like memory maker and parking, (I think - I always use the DME so I'm not sure). But if you buy one for each member of the family, does each member really need memory maker and parking?

Why not have a discount for multiples like families and give 1 set of the extra benefits, .... then also offer better discounts on the tours, parties, etc. And a few anytime FPs would really sweeten the deal!
 
You guys have great suggestions, but all would require extensive IT work to make it happen. Given the state of Disney's IT, it's basically held together with duct tape, glue, and hope, especially the FP+ system which was grafted on top of all kinds of legacy programming, I think Disney is seriously constrained in HOW they would do these things. In other words, even if they wanted to, it would be prohibitively expensive because they have cheeped out on IT architecture for decades.
 
Well, if they could make a FAMILY AP I think that would be a good direction.

The way it is now, if you buy one AP you get extras like memory maker and parking, (I think - I always use the DME so I'm not sure). But if you buy one for each member of the family, does each member really need memory maker and parking?

Why not have a discount for multiples like families and give 1 set of the extra benefits, .... then also offer better discounts on the tours, parties, etc. And a few anytime FPs would really sweeten the deal!

Although I like this idea, the question for Disney is why should they do a family AP? For one they would have to change how tickets are applied to accounts on the backend, so there is big cost in association with them doing that, and second if people are already buying APs as they are for each member in the family and paying the premium why would Disney want to offer a family service in which I assume most people would argue they would want to pay less for because they are getting only one photo pass and one free parking. So if Disney charges less for this then the argument would be that more people would opt for the Disney Family AP, which means yes they could do more trips in a year but AP holders tend on average to spend less while there if they know they can just come back in a couple of months or weeks. People who buy APs yes love Disney but they also tend to buy them and take advantage of the discounts on rooms, merch and dinning. This is a potential reduction of revenue for Disney, Disney APs and I would say even DVC members tend to "reduce" the amount of money per person that Disney theoretically could make. This is why I think you have seen Disney slowly roll back the Perks of DVC members as well as substantially increase the Price of DVC ownership and maintenance, the amount of time it takes to "break even" on a DVC is much longer then when DVC first started, and Disney has been increasing the Price of APs on a regular basis.

This is why I think that Disney will never offer a Family AP, if anything I think we are more likely to see a reduction of perks on current APs and even larger increases in Prices the closer we get to the big WDW 50th celebration
 
Well, if they could make a FAMILY AP I think that would be a good direction.

The way it is now, if you buy one AP you get extras like memory maker and parking, (I think - I always use the DME so I'm not sure). But if you buy one for each member of the family, does each member really need memory maker and parking?

Why not have a discount for multiples like families and give 1 set of the extra benefits, .... then also offer better discounts on the tours, parties, etc. And a few anytime FPs would really sweeten the deal!

yup - that is why we just get one AP for our family ... but if they had a family AP we might look into it

I'd also like to see a family MaxPass out at Disneyland since not everyone in my family needs the photopass benefit that comes with MaxPass and paying an extra $50/day for my family to use it is a lot extra

Edit: just saww Rteetz request to stop this chatter ... sorry - consider it now stopped
 
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