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I don't think many people would be surprised if this came true.....
I will say we found the same thing in December. There was only one night of EMH and we attempted to go. Even as many were waiting for HEA to start the lines were unbearable!! small world was almost an hour, the carousel line wound round and round :; and we couldn’t find the end of People Mover. After shuffling through the park for 45 mins we called it a night and left without riding anything.

Sadly I don’t think our experience was unusual at times when EMH are reduced to only 1 evening a week. When I look at the big picture, this change is 2 hours in our entire week and if they move them to the mornings then it is a wash for us time wise. I will say we’ve changed our touring style in the past few trips and find getting up early makes s huge difference as we get a lot done when we arrive in time for RD.
 
Because when you tell people when they book out that those things are available, they believe you. And at some point, you need to take care of those people who stay on site, instead of keep taking away. I'd love to see what the breakdown is on people who do the paid add-ons for those on-site vs. off.

I honestly think that Disney is getting dangerously close to the skinning the sheep, not just shearing.

I have been trying to keep my blinders on and stay positive because Disney really is my happy place, but we are really getting to the point where they've destroyed the magic by becoming so money hungry. I get the economics of it, the parks are so packed, rules of supply and demand mean increase prices to balance out crowds. The paid after hours events I was a little more leery of, but said at least they don't appear to be overselling those events (yet). But at this point, they just keep eating away at what made Disney special, and I'm afraid they keep pushing it so far they are going to hit the point of no return with a lot of die hard fans. They are getting very close to my enough is enough point. If the erode the benefits of on-site too much, I won't switch to offsite, I will just severely cut down my frequency of trips and start traveling elsewhere.
 

I don’t think so. WDW has so many more resorts than DL. I think they will stick with the virtual queue option.

It would be nice (and I am saying this as someone who generally stays off site) if there is some preferential treatment to those that stay onsite for getting a slot in that virtual queue

especially with them not having FP for the attractions (at least to start), then what is the benefit to staying on site with regards to Galaxy's Edge?

maybe do morning EMHs every day and at least let people that stay on site sign up for a virtual queue slot during that EMH?
 
It would be nice (and I am saying this as someone who generally stays off site) if there is some preferential treatment to those that stay onsite for getting a slot in that virtual queue

especially with them not having FP for the attractions (at least to start), then what is the benefit to staying on site with regards to Galaxy's Edge?

maybe do morning EMHs every day and at least let people that stay on site sign up for a virtual queue slot during that EMH?
If DL is any indication I don’t think they will be doing EMH for SWGE at least initially. They are being very restrictive with this land there. I think some of what WDW does will be based on how well things go at DL.
 
I wish Disney would keep the Evening Extra Magic Hours. I have teenagers and late nights work best for us. However we will adjust, but I would think the Morning Extra Magic Hours would be very crowded with the extra people. I guess Disney doesn’t want to spread out the crowds.
 
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I love the night time parties and events. Smaller crowds, cooler temps, walk on rides, rare characters. I only wish they had some type of parties only AP.
We have always avoided EMH and the few times I did the nighttime ones at MK it was so crowded it was awful. I think lots of folks avoided these for the same reason so I cant see Disney losing business over this.
 
I will say we found the same thing in December. There was only one night of EMH and we attempted to go. Even as many were waiting for HEA to start the lines were unbearable!! small world was almost an hour, the carousel line wound round and round :; and we couldn’t find the end of People Mover. After shuffling through the park for 45 mins we called it a night and left without riding anything.

Sadly I don’t think our experience was unusual at times when EMH are reduced to only 1 evening a week. When I look at the big picture, this change is 2 hours in our entire week and if they move them to the mornings then it is a wash for us time wise. I will say we’ve changed our touring style in the past few trips and find getting up early makes s huge difference as we get a lot done when we arrive in time for RD.

I mean EMH was great when it was in the evenings 3 hours at a time. I believe circa 2013-2014 they were offered about 30 hours a month vs 10-12 now.

I have been trying to keep my blinders on and stay positive because Disney really is my happy place, but we are really getting to the point where they've destroyed the magic by becoming so money hungry. I get the economics of it, the parks are so packed, rules of supply and demand mean increase prices to balance out crowds. The paid after hours events I was a little more leery of, but said at least they don't appear to be overselling those events (yet). But at this point, they just keep eating away at what made Disney special, and I'm afraid they keep pushing it so far they are going to hit the point of no return with a lot of die hard fans. They are getting very close to my enough is enough point. If the erode the benefits of on-site too much, I won't switch to offsite, I will just severely cut down my frequency of trips and start traveling elsewhere.

This is my issue: they are vastly manipulating the supply and the demand. They reduce supply while demand is increasing. It's not like they are sitting back after throwing all they had at the problem and just having to conjure up a solution. They are in part causing the problems and conveniently offering the solutions. That's the part that rubs me the wrong way. If 30 hours a month of EMH was so packed even coupled with regular midnight closings, then I could accept them adding more paid hours somewhere. But when those 30 are cut to 10 and the midnight closings have become extinct, I begrudge them.
 
If I remember right EMH was added as a benefit after 9/11 to get people to stay on site because there were more hotel rooms in Orlando than there were people going to the parks. Remember that was when Disney stopped building Pop Century and closed Dixie Landings (Now Port Orleans). Now the reverse is true, there are more people than rooms, so Disney can charge a premium for what was once a perk. They don't need benefits to get people in rooms, that's why there is less free dining, less EMH, and less discounts. It's supply and demand.

I honestly will never forget our first extra magic hour experience. It was back when it was 3 hrs at night and MK was open till 2 am. We sat on a park bench at 2 am eating Mickey Ice Cream and watching the good night kiss.
 
I only wish they had some type of parties only AP.

US offers an AP with "one H Horror Nights" pass, Express Pass after 4PM, prime or valet parking and early entry. $165 extra for the year.
 
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