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I don’t see anyone saying universal shpuld exthis and or shouldn’t do what they are doing - I certainly am not.

And I didn’t really see “distance” being used, I reread it and it was being “separated” and passing “stuff” so that is what I focused on and passing “stuff” that is owned and operated but different entities does break up the sense of a cohesive resort vs it all being owned/operates bu
I understand. My thoughts on the subject could be more explanatory but given it's not a thread dedicated to that I'll just leave it as what I've already said :)
 
So why does Universal still get away with this BS about it being a "4th gate"? Volcano Bay is nice, but doesn't seem anything more special that BB or TL.

Shouldn't we start talking about Disney new park rumors as a "7th gate" if we go by the same standards?
I think of this like I think of claimed FBS College Football Championships. You can kind of claim what you want because there is no real standard, but don't be surprised if people make fun of you for it. Disney could go to 6, Universal could go to 2. Neither changes the fact that a small percentage of people do water parks and they are nowhere near as important as theme parks.
 

It's unfair IMO to utilize an argument in terms of distance when for example MK and AK are between 5.3 and 5.7miles from each other the only difference is Disney was able to purchase the land under conditions that can never be replicated in terms of cost, and ones in which Universal was unable to take advantage of.

Actually, Universal used to own that land. They didn't get as good a deal as Disney, but at the time it was purchased, they got a heck of a deal. It was sold off by various previous owners of Universal, possibly MCA and Vivendi, maybe some of the others too. I believe the land between these two areas was all owned by Universal at one point.
 
When I went into this old Sound Dangerous theatre back in 2015 for "Frozen Fever" short .. this place was a total mess. Worse than budget theatres. Broken seats, sticky floors .. just smelled. I can't imagine they really made it that much better. It has needed a purpose for a decade now it seems.

Still shocked how many attractions they are closing/ (or closing early) during this "dead" time before SWGE opens.

Not that I had any interest in every seeing this "attraction" .. my 6yo son (not having seen all the live action movies yet) would probably have enjoyed it.
I have been there twice during the last few days. I’m usually a fan but no street entertainment and without FP good luck. Definitely half a day park for me at this point. It’s a shame.
 
Can anyone tell me how far away, distance wise, this new area is compared to their other parks?

Using the Measure Distance tool on Google Maps, it's about 3.35 miles (5.4 km) if they follow Universal Blvd. The starting point is the back side of CityWalk at the corner of Hollywood Way and Universal Blvd. Then ending point is the edge of the "new" plot of land.

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Link to Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/xtYV19GZ4bC2

Personally, I think that Universal Blvd is going to be the chosen route between the two Universal areas...for either a bus route or elevated rail line. I think both Universal and the City of Orlando will want to avoid using Kirkman Rd (State Road 435) because far more "locals" depend on that road when compared to Universal Blvd. Theoretically, there will be fewer complaints because Universal Blvd is mostly lined with tourist-related businesses like hotels.

That will be fascinating to figure out if they try and do anything interesting. There are all kinds of ramifications of running transportation over the Interstate and it's not getting shut down for them to build a bridge. All that ignores the land use permission from the intervening landholders, which will be insane to secure.

While I can't comment on issues related to Interstate 4, Orange County has a history of partnering with private companies on transportation projects. At one point, a privately owned and operated Maglev train line was planned between the Orlando International Airport and the International Drive area. That line was to have stops at the Florida Mall and the Orange County Convention Center. I'm not really sure the reason, but the project was scrapped.

In the above map, the area north of Sand Lake Road (State Road 482) is the City of Orlando. South of that is (I think) unincorporated Orange County. I imagine both entities will be eager to help Universal. The City of Orlando has provided some sweetheart deals in the past. For example, the City paid for a pedestrian bridge over Hollywood Way. That bridge is exclusively used by guests of Universal hotels going to Universal theme parks.

If an elevated rail line is constructed, I'm sure some there will be lawsuits. But, I imagine the line will run mostly down the median of Universal Blvd. Almost the entire length of that road has an open median in the middle.

I also anticipate that if a rail line is added, it will include a stop at the Orange County Convention Center. The North Concourse is just south of the second-to-last dot on the above map. Adding the Convention Center would make City/County officials more likely to support the project. And, it would benefit Universal as they could market their hotels as having easy access for conventioneers.

Maybe they are going to try and put some sort of Subway System in (unlikely due to water table but still possible)...

As someone else noted, a subway simply isn't possible. In the entire state of Florida, I'm only aware of 4 underground transit tunnels. The oldest is just a stone's throw from my house in Fort Lauderdale. It's a tunnel under the New River in Downtown that opened in 1960. The other public tunnel is the massive Port of Miami tunnel, which opened in 2014. The other two tunnels are private and they just happen to be at Walt Disney World. One is south of Disney's Contemporary Resort on N World Drive. The other is near the International Gateway at Epcot. That tunnel contains Epcot Resorts Blvd and Avenue of the Stars (which is the backstage road at Epcot).

The key aspect of all four of those tunnels is that they travel under bodies of water. They only exist because bridges were deemed to be impossible for their sites.

While technically possible, a subway connecting the Universal areas would end up costing billions. Given that an elevated route is far easier and cheaper, any underground route isn't even being considered.
 
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Is the only way for me to check what this would cost me for my dates for me to have an AP check for me? I’m thinking this may be worth it for me to cancel my package and get an AP for just me and rebook.

Where and when are you wanting to stay and with how many people. I can look up the rate. PM me if you want.
 
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Thanks for this .. got $100 off my POFQ room at end of March (but had to get an upgraded "River View" room, as that was the only room available for the discount) .. still 10% off an upgraded room isn't bad.

It was only a matter of time before they started to have to actually enforce the new parking fees. It felt like it was way too much "on your honor".
This probably prevents someone just getting waived in or "saying" they have a reservation and just park overnight for free.

People will find a way around such a silly fee until the enforcement is electronic and foolproof.
I still feel there is a business to be had for someone outside the parks to open up an "offsite parking lot" and just shuttle people to their hotels for $10/day instead of the $17+ that Disney is charging.
 
See i have mixed feelings about this. Yes, it's neat to have photos with special effects...but if we're talking costumes, for me part of the fun is actually WEARING the costume. It's just not the same if I'm putting on an AR suit and only see the costume in the pictures....I want to twirl, feel like a princess, put on a character for a few minutes in real life. But that's just me :)
 
@writerguyfl Thanks for your post on the possible ways to connect the parks. I found it very informative. I also could not help draw parallels with the Eastern Gateway Project at Disneyland. This project also sought to connect to Disney owned things, parking and parks, bypassing local businesses. The project was shut down by the city council for that reason, among others. Now Universal may try to put mass transit down Universal Blvd, as you describe. Wonder how the local businesses (attractions!) being bypassed would respond? How great of a hue and cry to prohibit Universal from bypassing their businesses? Bet it never makes it out of planning.
 
See i have mixed feelings about this. Yes, it's neat to have photos with special effects...but if we're talking costumes, for me part of the fun is actually WEARING the costume. It's just not the same if I'm putting on an AR suit and only see the costume in the pictures....I want to twirl, feel like a princess, put on a character for a few minutes in real life. But that's just me :)
I can agree with that but to that end it would give people the appearance of being in a costume that may otherwise be impractical or against the rules to be in. I see this as basically a different version of the magic shots.
 
It's unclear. According to the written policy day guests are allowed to park for free if eating and shopping.
I think they should just do the validation system. Resort guests can use Magicbands to enter or leave and they keep track of who has cars or not. Visitors will need to get validated from a meal or store and have a time limit (Disneyland Downtown Disney has 3 hrs for eating at a QS or shopping; it goes up to 5 hrs for TS). That would also help with the parking issues and people abusing restaurant reservations to get free parking, taking up spots from paying guests.
 
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