News Round Up 2018

[hertamaniac]

Interesting point that I never really thought of, but I think it may make sense.

https://www.wcjb.com/content/news/L..._VbtetZii9eZ1BX0hk2c9I7LDr1b8MXl538OWP0lpYlIA

 

[Firebird060]

Interesting point that I never really thought of, but I think it may make sense.

https://www.wcjb.com/content/news/L..._VbtetZii9eZ1BX0hk2c9I7LDr1b8MXl538OWP0lpYlIA

I can see the argument for the signs in multiple languages, but to be fair the legal language in the US is English, the back of the tickets, are in English, the signs on the side of the road for speed limits are in English and so is everything else. It would be hard to prove negligence due to not having a sign in a specific language. Could Universal easily put signs up in the three requested languages, sure they could, but they could also put it up in Chinese, Japanese and a handful of other languages. The law doesn't require the signs to be in multiple languages. I see it being a very uphill battle for the family to prove Negligence, which is probably why Universal hasn't settled out of court.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Interesting point that I never really thought of, but I think it may make sense.

https://www.wcjb.com/content/news/L..._VbtetZii9eZ1BX0hk2c9I7LDr1b8MXl538OWP0lpYlIA

does Universal have their times guides and park maps in different languages like Disney does? Might make more sense to post warnings there and then have the universal symbols for other warnings.

Otherwise if you start posting in Spanish do you also have to post in German and Japanese and Korean, etc., etc.?

 

[mom2rtk]

Interesting point that I never really thought of, but I think it may make sense.

https://www.wcjb.com/content/news/L..._VbtetZii9eZ1BX0hk2c9I7LDr1b8MXl538OWP0lpYlIA

38 years old. So sad. Not sure I see Universal as negligent though. If he had a pre-existing condition, then he probably should have done some research. And I'm not sure at age 38 that he would have avoided any dangerous rides unless he DID have a pre-existing condition.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

38 years old. So sad. Not sure I see Universal as negligent though. If he had a pre-existing condition, then he probably should have done some research. And I'm not sure at age 38 that he would have avoided any dangerous rides unless he DID have a pre-existing condition.

definitely sad - but I agree with your take and the cynical part of me things the family never thought of this until a lawyer suggested it to them

 

[hertamaniac]

I can see the argument for the signs in multiple languages, but to be fair the legal language in the US is English, the back of the tickets, are in English, the signs on the side of the road for speed limits are in English and so is everything else. It would be hard to prove negligence due to not having a sign in a specific language. Could Universal easily put signs up in the three requested languages, sure they could, but they could also put it up in Chinese, Japanese and a handful of other languages. The law doesn't require the signs to be in multiple languages. I see it being a very uphill battle for the family to prove Negligence, which is probably why Universal hasn't settled out of court.

I agree. At what point does a U.S. theme park limit the signs in another native language? I really don't have an answer for this.

 

[Fantasia79]

I can see the argument for the signs in multiple languages, but to be fair the legal language in the US is English, the back of the tickets, are in English, the signs on the side of the road for speed limits are in English and so is everything else. It would be hard to prove negligence due to not having a sign in a specific language. Could Universal easily put signs up in the three requested languages, sure they could, but they could also put it up in Chinese, Japanese and a handful of other languages. The law doesn't require the signs to be in multiple languages. I see it being a very uphill battle for the family to prove Negligence, which is probably why Universal hasn't settled out of court.

The US actually does not have an official language.

Feel bad for the family, but having heart failure at 38 sounds like there was a really serious problem.

 

[hertamaniac]

38 years old. So sad. Not sure I see Universal as negligent though. If he had a pre-existing condition, then he probably should have done some research. And I'm not sure at age 38 that he would have avoided any dangerous rides unless he DID have a pre-existing condition.

I never viewed that ride being a health risk, but to your point there may have been a condition. Regardless, I am not sure how a theme park can proactively warn potential guests other than signs/symbols. I do know for some rides, the park will play a video of the ride vehicle and style of movement(s) in the queues.

 

[rteetz]

News

Permits to replace the Sleeping Beauty castle roof at Disneyland

http://permits.anaheim.net/tm_bin/tmw_cmd.pl?tmw_cmd=StatusViewCasebld&shl_caseno=BLD2018-05238

 

[SG131]

I never viewed that ride being a health risk, but to your point there may have been a condition. Regardless, I am not sure how a theme park can proactively warn potential guests other than signs/symbols. I do know for some rides, the park will play a video of the ride vehicle and style of movement(s) in the queues.

Yeah I mean I feel like the symbols should kind of cover it as a universal language of sorts. And if he had a preexisting condition doesn’t universal have a Spanish version of their website. If I had a preexisting condition (other than neck problems which I ignore the ride signs for) I think I would check ahead of time to see what I could ride. If he didn’t have knowledge of his preexisting condition the sign would be useless anyway.

 

[Firebird060]

The US actually does not have an official language.

Feel bad for the family, but having heart failure at 38 sounds like there was a really serious problem.

You are correct we the US does not have a official language, but we do Use Legal English in our laws, bills, and other legally recognized documents, now many states due provide official documents upon request in multiple languages but thats not what we are talking about.

The debate over signage though really isnt one of the language, in this case they are claiming negligence on Universal for not having the sign in Spanish, but if the person who suffered from heart failure was perhaps blind then the argument could be made that the sign should have been in Braille, the point being made that Universal is only legally required to post warnings in compliance with the laws. This lack of official language in the US has led to many litigation's in many courts and many States, Including Miami Florida, most of the time the Defending company tends to either win or win on appeal. Current Case law falls in line with Universal. Even if for some reason the case goes forward and the Plaintiffs in the case get a ruling that yes Universal should have posted signs in Spanish, it would still be hard to prove Universal was negligent in not doing so as they posted signs following the requirements of the all applicable laws.

 

[jade1]

definitely sad - but I agree with your take and the cynical part of me things the family never thought of this until a lawyer suggested it to them

Yep sad to hear, Skull ISland though?

Trying to remember but seems like it was just a slow moving truck ride past some TV screens, never went again from boredom.

Can def see them posting wild rides though, esp in Orlando.

eta: I guess space does at Disney anyway, well audio anyway.

 

[rteetz]

Photo Update

Disneyland update

https://wdwnt.com/2018/12/photo-rep...18-crowds-ballast-point-jessies-carousel-etc/

 

[JaxDad]

Yep sad to hear, Skull ISland though?

Trying to remember but seems like it was just a slow moving truck ride past some TV screens, never went again from boredom.

Can def see them posting wild rides though, esp in Orlando.

eta: I guess space does at Disney anyway, well audio anyway.

I've heard they sometimes have team members startling people in line. I wonder if that may have happened with this poor gentleman.

 

[rteetz]

News

Animal Kingdom extra magic hours changes

https://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2018/12/animal-kingdoms-extra-magic-hours.html?m=1

 

[dina444444]

Photo Update

Disneyland update

https://wdwnt.com/2018/12/photo-rep...18-crowds-ballast-point-jessies-carousel-etc/

Ballast point signs are up as of yesterday.

 

[jade1]

I've heard they sometimes have team members startling people in line. I wonder if that may have happened with this poor gentleman.

Good Lord that one lady screamed so loud to try and scare us in the Mummy-agreed that could be deadly.

Although not sure if the scream was in Spanish or English.

 

[BLLB]

Sparkly purple mouse ears

I apologize, I meant, is “purple potion” a Disney reference? Like, to a movie, an attraction?

 

[rteetz]

I apologize, I meant, is “purple potion” a Disney reference? Like, to a movie, an attraction?

No just a color name they gave it.

 

[Tigger's ally]

does Universal have their times guides and park maps in different languages like Disney does? Might make more sense to post warnings there and then have the universal symbols for other warnings.

Otherwise if you start posting in Spanish do you also have to post in German and Japanese and Korean, etc., etc.?

their website has it all in several different languages. I think they are covered.