News Round Up 2017

yeah, my initial reaction is that it looks very nice ... but like a very nice hotel that could be anywhere and not very Disney-ish ... and a lot of the updates seem to be heading that way (even the refurbs at POP, if it wasn't for the couple of images on the wall/headboard would just look like a modern hotel room anywhere

See, what I've always enjoyed about the deluxe lobbies and hotels is that you can still see the Disney touches if you look close enough (The carpets in the Beach Club having Flounder and Sebastian, the Mickey totem at Wilderness Lodge), but it's not in your face and over the top. That's what I'd have liked to see from this Coronado renovation. A more subdued look that incorporates the colors and art style of the hotel, maybe throw some art on the walls.

Instead, I agree that the concept looks like Disney copy and pasted a Hilton lobby and just added a couple spots of color to look sleek.
 

Too bad the news story doesn't suggest if this is because of more alligators or simply more trapping.

It points out that they upped the amount that they were allowed to remove.

I wonder what the limit actually is?

And if the sole reason for the increased removal is just raising the limit...
 
It points out that they upped the amount that they were allowed to remove.

I wonder what the limit actually is?

And if the sole reason for the increased removal is just raising the limit...
Yeah, that's not at all clear. They don't say what the old limit was and how close to that limit the removals at WDW were during that time. So its hard to know if the increase is the result of a higher limit (and how close they are to the new limit) or just more actively removing the critters.
 
For those of us who find most WDW hotels "too much" this could hit a lot of people the right way. Interior doors! I actually really like CRS and if they plus it at the Riveria, I think it could be awesome!

I totally get that - and even before I know some people preferred that. Just feels like *every* refurb/new construction is headed this way and I wouldn't want all the hotels to be like this
 
I totally get that - and even before I know some people preferred that. Just feels like *every* refurb/new construction is headed this way and I wouldn't want all the hotels to be like this

I adore the very small touches...I think this allows for the small things while still being a normal hotel, or so I hope. It could be a win/win. The hidden mickeys could just be in grey and white. It could be amazing!
 
I adore the very small touches...I think this allows for the small things while still being a normal hotel, or so I hope. It could be a win/win. The hidden mickeys could just be in grey and white. It could be amazing!

and see, that is what they have in the Contemporary and it isn't *enough* for me ... so I think they should definitely have some hotels like that just not all of them - and seems like all updates/new projects are heading that way

But obviously they have a bunch of stats and data - and perhaps that shows that I am in the minority and I need to get with the program

... either that or they will start having all the rooms plain and then you can customize your experience/level of Disneyfication - none, subtle, significant, crazy pants, etc ..... all for a nominal upcharge of course :D
 
... either that or they will start having all the rooms plain and then you can customize your experience/level of Disneyfication - none, subtle, significant, crazy pants, etc ..... all for a nominal upcharge of course

Every room will just be plain white walls and then you get to pick the projection overlay you want for $49.95/night.
 
and see, that is what they have in the Contemporary and it isn't *enough* for me ... so I think they should definitely have some hotels like that just not all of them - and seems like all updates/new projects are heading that way

But obviously they have a bunch of stats and data - and perhaps that shows that I am in the minority and I need to get with the program

... either that or they will start having all the rooms plain and then you can customize your experience/level of Disneyfication - none, subtle, significant, crazy pants, etc ..... all for a nominal upcharge of course :D

So funny! The CR is still almost "too much" for me. If they got rid of Chef Mickeys and the noise and children surrounding it, I'd be more into staying onsite. The over the top nature of WDW hotels pushes ME, just one consumer, to the Swolphin, Grand Cypress, and Ritz. I grew up at the CR though until the Swolphine opened, my folks are WDW singular in my exact same way. Nostalagia of a different kind, eh?

Regardless, this resort could strike a neat balance, and I'm excited...especially if it's stumble distance to the gondola from Epcot.
 
I totally get that - and even before I know some people preferred that. Just feels like *every* refurb/new construction is headed this way and I wouldn't want all the hotels to be like this

I mean seriously though, do you want big gimmicky powling pins and "maters" in 10 years? #shudder
 
I mean seriously though, do you want big gimmicky powling pins and "maters" in 10 years? #shudder
I do!

My family stayed at the Swan and Dolphin in 2012. Obviously not Disney owned but on Disney property. Before that we were used to Disney values and moderates. We felt the swolphin was too not Disney for us. I like Phil find high theming to be what Disney is all about. If I wanted a high class modern resort I can stay off property.
 
One of the things we enjoyed about the all stars when we stayed there was the "cheesiness" of the rooms.

The kids really loved it, and you definitely knew where you were in those rooms.

You'd also return to find your kids toys arranged playfully and a disney towel creation (but I digress)...

I don't know why they are scaling back so..

Anytime Disney "upgrades" or refurbishes something, I immediately tend to think in terms of dollars as to why and how they do it. I just can't think of any budget-oriented reason for having less theming with these recent changes.

There's room for both over-the-top and subtle Disney décor and I think the hotels provided a nice balance between the two choices already. I don't see a real need to tone things down all the time with these modifications.
 
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and see, that is what they have in the Contemporary and it isn't *enough* for me ... so I think they should definitely have some hotels like that just not all of them - and seems like all updates/new projects are heading that way

But obviously they have a bunch of stats and data - and perhaps that shows that I am in the minority and I need to get with the program

... either that or they will start having all the rooms plain and then you can customize your experience/level of Disneyfication - none, subtle, significant, crazy pants, etc ..... all for a nominal upcharge of course :D

I don't think you're in the minority at all. Some people's idea of amazing by switching to modern monotone decor is drab, colorless and boring to me. These are Disney resorts for crying out loud. That this time-tested brand continues to draw millions upon millions of customers to their doors indicates people want *more* Disney rather than less.

By all means there should be plenty of colorful, whimsical Disney references, both bold and subtle utilized throughout the resorts. I would suggest that those who feel this is over-the-top or don't appreciate Disney decor in their Disney resort room may find more suitable accommodations offsite.

To the extent that Disney seems to be reducing the amount of Disney touches in their decor in recent renovations smacks of money savings to me rather than an attempt to suppress their own brand.
 
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News

Choza de Margarita Opens Soon at Mexico Pavilion in Epcot World Showcase at Walt Disney World Resort

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...d-resort/?CMP=SOC-DPFY18Q1wo1026171101170031A

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I do!

My family stayed at the Swan and Dolphin in 2012. Obviously not Disney owned but on Disney property. Before that we were used to Disney values and moderates. We felt the swolphin was too not Disney for us. I like Phil find high theming to be what Disney is all about. If I wanted a high class modern resort I can stay off property.

WDW offers something for everyone; that's the beauty of the thing. My folks never took me to the mods/values as a kid, and as an adult I don't get anything out of that stuff...but it's awesome that WDW can deliver for us all...Location has always been my main decider with WDW hotels, but honestly, next time, I think I'm going to the Grand Cypress. It's so darn cheap to Uber around, it may be worth it.
 
There's a new piece of concept art depicting Coronado Spring's tower lobby/new check-in location. It's definitely more Contemporary, less Coronado Springs.

Coronado-Lobby.jpg

I love the concept art. I do prefer hotels that look more contemporary like this. I know Disney will never say, but I am so curious about why they’re choosing to renovate their hotels to look more upscale. They're making plenty of money with the way they look now. I’m not complaining, though.

News

Choza de Margarita Opens Soon at Mexico Pavilion in Epcot World Showcase at Walt Disney World Resort

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...d-resort/?CMP=SOC-DPFY18Q1wo1026171101170031A

This is my type of Disney news. Love it.
 















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