News Round Up 2017

About the rides not accommodating larger people:

I guess I don't understand why this was not considered in the design phase...why is it only now that they find it's limited to "medium" sized people? Who doesn't look at current and past successes and problems and make decisions based on what eventually worked? Where is the intelligent planning, or did they outsource that to the lowest bidder?

Somehow this shouldn't have been a surprise! :scratchin
 
Actually nighttime parades don't bring in a lot of crowds and that's been evidenced by when they took away MSEP. It is a nice thing to spread out crowds though. We likely won't see one until the 50th.
I don't know if nighttime parades bring "in" crowds as much as they retain them. But a fireworks show probably has the same effect
 
About the rides not accommodating larger people:

I guess I don't understand why this was not considered in the design phase...why is it only now that they find it's limited to "medium" sized people? Who doesn't look at current and past successes and problems and make decisions based on what eventually worked? Where is the intelligent planning, or did they outsource that to the lowest bidder?

Somehow this shouldn't have been a surprise! :scratchin

But is it really only limited to "medium" size people? From what I have seen is isn't like 10% of the people are having issues - it is like 0.001% - and is isn't just all people of a certain size can't fit but rather unique combinations of different measurements, etc. - so would have been very challenging to know beforehand what the issues would be or even that there would be issues

Now, if this is not the case and it turns out to be 10% of the people then that is a major fail on their part ... and even if 0.001% of the people, hopefully the figure out an alternative for them to still experience the attraction in a way
 
About the rides not accommodating larger people:

I guess I don't understand why this was not considered in the design phase...why is it only now that they find it's limited to "medium" sized people? Who doesn't look at current and past successes and problems and make decisions based on what eventually worked? Where is the intelligent planning, or did they outsource that to the lowest bidder?

Somehow this shouldn't have been a surprise! :scratchin
I can almost guarantee it was considered. And no it's not only limited to medium sized people. The prbleksnseems to be occurring in the legs. In shape but tall people have even had problems. There is no specific type of person. Very large people have been able to get on as well.
 

About the rides not accommodating larger people:

I guess I don't understand why this was not considered in the design phase...why is it only now that they find it's limited to "medium" sized people? Who doesn't look at current and past successes and problems and make decisions based on what eventually worked? Where is the intelligent planning, or did they outsource that to the lowest bidder?

Somehow this shouldn't have been a surprise! :scratchin
I'm certain it was considered. Also, the main consideration when designing restraint system is safety. Disney does not want to be sued by anyone injured on a ride due to restraints that don't work. I think most will be able to ride and maybe some won't. Disney's track record still far exceeds Cedar Faire and Six Flags and even Universal rides when it comes to accommodating larger guests and guests with disabilities. It also seems like the more "thrill" involved the less forgiving the restraints are.
I really get the disappointment that comes with not being able to ride something. I've been there. But there is so much to see and do at AK. Not riding one ride shouldn't ruin a vacation. DH and I decided we will try but we both have no idea if it will work. We have both lost nearly 40 pounds this year but DH is very tall with long legs and I have very large muscular calves. If we ride we ride. If we don't we don't.
 
It was considered. They just didn't mind having a ride that can't accomodate everyone. It is what it is. Most of the times, with thrill rides you have to make sacrifices. I'm sure they'll do their best to accomodate as many guests as possible, but making the ride less thrilling is not the solution.

Most of us haven't been able to ride FoP, so who knows what kind of safety standards this has. This is a thrilling experience after all... Safety must be a top priority.
 
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I can almost guarantee it was considered. And no it's not only limited to medium sized people. The prbleksnseems to be occurring in the legs. In shape but tall people have even had problems. There is no specific type of person. Very large people have been able to get on as well.

I predict that one of the stations will be adjusted to fit a broader range of body styles or to be outright wheelchair accessible. I mean, one of the jungle cruise boats has that awesome lifting mechanism for whellchairs! I'm sure they'll give some thought to it at least.
 
Yep. You just can't build everything to accommodate every outlier. While we might wish they could, they can't. I'm a big guy. Ok, I'm a fat guy if we are being honest. Space Mountain is getting to be a tight squeeze for me these days. That's on me. If I want to keep riding, I need to drop the weight. It's not on Disney to build to accommodate the .0001% of the population in ANY direction. A little person might get upset they can't ride thrill rides, an obese person might be upset they can't ride Space Mountain, a person with extremely long legs may not ride FoP. Such is life. If you are in the extremes these kinds of things happen. And as the little people example holds out, it has been this way for a long time. Ride restrictions are nothing new for size outliers.
 
I predict that one of the stations will be adjusted to fit a broader range of body styles or to be outright wheelchair accessible. I mean, one of the jungle cruise boats has that awesome lifting mechanism for whellchairs! I'm sure they'll give some thought to it at least.
They have two theaters that are wheelchair accessible but you must transfer. That's no different than Soarin. There is no wheelchair vehicle on Soarin.
 
I just came back from a screening of Pirates 5 in London, called Salazars Revenge here, but I much prefer the US title of Dead Men Tell No Tales. I won tickets to see it, and it was live linked to Disneyland Paris where they had the full cast.

As for the movie I will keep it spoiler free and short, but I really enjoyed it, and for me it was better than the last 2 but not as good as the first 2, so it's in the middle, but that's not a bad place to be.

There were some inventive and fun action sequences which put a smile on my face, including a fun action sequence at the beginning which introduces Jack to the movie. Some of the jokes fell a bit flat, but more than enough also hit their mark.

The regular cast were as good as always, but I thought new character Henry was weak, he lacked screen presence and had little to work with, other new character Carina fared a little better but still struggled when surrounded by such larger than life characters. Thankfully Javier Bardem was great as Salazar, the character could have done with a bit more story, but Bardem played him superbly.

If this is the last one as advertised it's a pretty good one to go out on.
 
Are there any big drops involved in FOP? I've got quite a fear of falling.
People have reported that there is a "sense" of falling. However, I can't imagine that it would feel any different than how Soarin does it or Star Tours. People have said that the seats don't physically fall though. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
People have reported that there is a "sense" of falling. However, I can't imagine that it would feel any different than how Soarin does it or Star Tours. People have said that the seats don't physically fall though. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Ah, thank you!
 
I can almost guarantee it was considered. And no it's not only limited to medium sized people. The prbleksnseems to be occurring in the legs. In shape but tall people have even had problems. There is no specific type of person. Very large people have been able to get on as well.

As a larger individual I was able to ride. The problem comes in with the leg restraints and also people being uncomfortable with the way the knee bends on the seat, I'd put money by official opening they have a fix for it. If not opening then soon after. They may have to make some seats adjustable. I had more of a issue with the river boats, those are tight.
 
So I've watched three times on video now. I'm very impressed and think they have done a very good job incorporating so many great Disney films. Very little frozen. Hunchback is a welcome addition. I like how they worked in pirates too. I'm okay with the loose story that it has. I think the cars addition was a little strange but overall it's very good.

Did somebody say Hunchback? Ooooo. Now, I haven't watched the video as I'm waiting to see it live, but I find myself hoping they project gargoyles pouring molten lava down the castle walls. Ya ya, I know, not likely. But man is that an amazing climax.

I also saw it noted that it looked great to those in the hub, but not anywhere else. Would that include watching from the back of the hub, almost into Main Street? Is that not close enough to see the project well? I'm trying to get a feel for how deep I'll have to wade into unfriendly territory with our group.
 





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