News Round Up 2017

[TheMaxRebo]

I don't know who that guy is...

It amazes me that Disney created a ride vehicle for a main attraction that is so restrictive.

It's still in testing and they are working through things - I have seen very minimal people being turned away - so saying it is "so restrictive" I think is overstating it

Big Fat Panda is a Disney podcaster and has been on the Disunplugged ... and not surprising given his name, he is rather large and fit

 

[luisov]

That is an issue common to Universal. The guys at the Dis did say that this was one of the first ride vehicles at Disney to actually have some of those characteristics. I agree with previous posts, though. I don't think it's that bad.

 

[Madonna3]

I really don't think it's that restrictive. I believe it's blown up more that the problem really is.

I disagree. Even turning away a handful of guests is too much. It's my opinion. If you've never felt what it's like to be turned away (ie rejected) from the ability to ride something then I don't think you'd understand why it's so significant.

 

[Madonna3]

That is an issue common to Universal. The guys at the Dis did say that this was one of the first ride vehicles at Disney to actually have some of those characteristics. I agree with previous posts, though. I don't think it's that bad.

And this is why people who had these issues at Universal were loyal to Disney.

Universal eventually developed ride vehicles to accommodate some larger guests and Disney should've taken the hint

 

[DisneyGeekyParadise]

I disagree. Even turning away a handful of guests is too much. It's my opinion. If you've never felt what it's like to be turned away (ie rejected) from the ability to ride something then I don't think you'd understand why it's so significant.

Honestly, I hope they get this fixed or something soon as possible as I have long legs, and I'm looking forward to riding this...

 

[Jetku]

I think park hours have been extended a bit for the end of May.

May 27th is my MK day and it's now open at 8am instead of 9am. I noticed when I was trying to adjust my 7DMT FP and saw an 8am was available and the park wasn't even supposed to be open then!

 

[DisneyGeekyParadise]

I think park hours have been extended a bit for the end of May.

May 27th is my MK day and it's now open at 8am instead of 9am. I noticed when I was trying to adjust my 7DMT FP and saw an 8am was available and the park wasn't even supposed to be open then!

Possibly Extra Magic Hours? Do those still exist?

 

[rteetz]

I disagree. Even turning away a handful of guests is too much. It's my opinion. If you've never felt what it's like to be turned away (ie rejected) from the ability to ride something then I don't think you'd understand why it's so significant.

Not every guest can ride every single ride. A lot of Disney's rides have must transfer policy so that limits people already. Some find issue with Mine train. I just personally think it's impossible to create rides that absolutely everyone can ride.

 

[rteetz]

I think park hours have been extended a bit for the end of May.

May 27th is my MK day and it's now open at 8am instead of 9am. I noticed when I was trying to adjust my 7DMT FP and saw an 8am was available and the park wasn't even supposed to be open then!

That's probably from crowd anticipation due to Pandora.

 

[rteetz]

Honestly, I hope they get this fixed or something soon as possible as I have long legs, and I'm looking forward to riding this...

It's not necessarily long legs. There really is no specific type of person being turned away. Very large people have been able to ride as well as very tall people.

 

[rteetz]

And this is why people who had these issues at Universal were loyal to Disney.

Universal eventually developed ride vehicles to accommodate some larger guests and Disney should've taken the hint

Forbidden Journey arguably one of the best rides in Orlando is very limiting and that's a newer ride.

 

[Madonna3]

Not every guest can ride every single ride. A lot of Disney's rides have must transfer policy so that limits people already. Some find issue with Mine train. I just personally think it's impossible to create rides that absolutely everyone can ride.

I love when I say something is my opinion and someone tries to tell me I'm wrong.

I think ANY ride that can't accommodate all people sucks. No one should be excluded. Equal for all. Is that going to be possible? Likely no. Do I wish it were true? Yes.

Forbidden Journey In the beginning, It limited those who could ride. The community voiced its displeasure, Universal adapted. So, this is why I'm surprised that Disney wouldn't have made "special" vehicles that could be adapted, even if just a few seats.

 

[rteetz]

I love when I say something is my opinion and someone tries to tell me I'm wrong.

I think ANY ride that can't accommodate all people sucks. No one should be excluded. Equal for all. Is that going to be possible? Likely no. Do I wish it were true? Yes.

Forbidden Journey In the beginning, It limited those who could ride. The community voiced its displeasure, Universal adapted. So, this is why I'm surprised that Disney wouldn't have made "special" vehicles that could be adapted, even if just a few seats.

I never said you were wrong.

Disney has already adapted with FoP. Banks Lee from Attractions magazine wasn't able to ride the first time he tried. He then was able to ride the second time.

Personally think yes it's unfortunate people are having issues but if Disney goes ahead anddumbs down the ride for more accommodation that's good for nobody.

 

[Mouse of Mystery]

Wishes:
- Sad to see it go. The sing along at the end of the final show was super sweet. I was moved.
- The thing that I loved about Wishes was hearing part of When You Wish Upon a Star as fireworks were set off behind the castle. It was such a call back for me to being a child and watching The Wonderful World of Disney. That and the little kids singing... always a tear-jerker.

HEA:
- I watched the live stream and was really impressed with what they'd done technically.
- I watched the DIS 4k version and was blown away with what an astoundingly, beautifully crafted show they've created. The projection mapping is first-rate... so much better than what they've done there before. I loved the incorporation of the new side towers, the new spotlights, and lasers. There was obviously a lot of love that went into its creation.

I almost feel like a villain nitpicking such a remarkable show, but I'll just come right out and say it:
- As much as I enjoyed all of the music, it felt like some of the transitions between songs/themes caused the show to stall slightly. Not every time, but a few times it felt like things could be tightened up a bit.
- Have the Fab Five been deported!? When you're showing the catalogue of Disney characters on the castle... throw me a bone and let's have a peep at the mice, ducks, and dogs that got the ball rolling!!

All in all... 9.5 magical wands out of 10. (fix those last two things and it's perfect!)

 

[linzbear]

I rode FoP yesterday, and saw someone get walked off because he didn't fit (I felt so bad, he was so nice in line with his daughter). He was both large and tall. Right next to him was my son who is 47" and nearly underweight at 43lbs (so there are even smaller kids than him allowed on). I can say that the way they're designed, Disney kind of has to pick - any larger and they would have to increase the height requirement. Having both FoP and Primevil Whirl at 48" isn't good either, neither address as intense as Everest.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I disagree. Even turning away a handful of guests is too much. It's my opinion. If you've never felt what it's like to be turned away (ie rejected) from the ability to ride something then I don't think you'd understand why it's so significant.

I think it is tough to make every single ride be accessible to every single person though - and does that mean they should not have any rides with a height restriction? Not make any that people who are pregnant or have heart conditions cannot ride?

Disney historically has been very good about being for everyone and I am a little surprised that they did create such a marque ride that will be somewhat limiting - or at least not have options for those that cannot fit (a different type of seat that maybe doesn't move as much (at all) but anyone can fit in). I do think this is still the test period and they have already starting making some adjustments ... I definitely hope they have a clear solution by opening day or at least a fully vetting guest recovery process for those that don't fit ... if not, like you said with Universal, I hope people do voice their disappointment and frustration and Disney adjusts it further if possible

And I also hope they take the feedback and ensure for the new Star Wars rides it isn't an issue

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Wishes:
- Sad to see it go. The sing along at the end of the final show was super sweet. I was moved.
- The thing that I loved about Wishes was hearing part of When You Wish Upon a Star as fireworks were set off behind the castle. It was such a call back for me to being a child and watching The Wonderful World of Disney. That and the little kids singing... always a tear-jerker.

HEA:
- I watched the live stream and was really impressed with what they'd done technically.
- I watched the DIS 4k version and was blown away with what an astoundingly, beautifully crafted show they've created. The projection mapping is first-rate... so much better than what they've done there before. I loved the incorporation of the new side towers, the new spotlights, and lasers. There was obviously a lot of love that went into its creation.

I almost feel like a villain nitpicking such a remarkable show, but I'll just come right out and say it:
- As much as I enjoyed all of the music, it felt like some of the transitions between songs/themes caused the show to stall slightly. Not every time, but a few times it felt like things could be tightened up a bit.
- Have the Fab Five been deported!? When you're showing the catalogue of Disney characters on the castle... throw me a bone and let's have a peep at the mice, ducks, and dogs that got the ball rolling!!

All in all... 9.5 magical wands out of 10. (fix those last two things and it's perfect!)

Thank you for your thoughts. First, I agree with you about the transition music ... personally I thought it would have been nice to have the tune from the main some woven in a bit more too - so it felt like one more complete piece rather than just the song at the beginning and the end - it feels a bit choppy now

I also thought the same thing initially - how come there is no Mickey? But then someone pointed out Mickey wasn't in Wishes either

 

[Madonna3]

I never said you were wrong.

Disney has already adapted with FoP. Banks Lee from Attractions magazine wasn't able to ride the first time he tried. He then was able to ride the second time.

Personally think yes it's unfortunate people are having issues but if Disney goes ahead anddumbs down the ride for more accommodation that's good for nobody.

Yes, I too saw an adjustment was made which leads me to wonder why this rice vehicle can't be self adapting individually. Bigger people, it deflates; smaller people, it inflates.

I'm very sensitive to this issue because it used to be me. Now it's my husband. I understand not everything will fit everyone, but up until now Disney has found ways to accommodate nearly all and I'd hate to see them stray from that.

 

[Madonna3]

I think it is tough to make every single ride be accessible to every single person though - and does that mean they should not have any rides with a height restriction? Not make any that people who are pregnant or have heart conditions cannot ride?

Disney historically has been very good about being for everyone and I am a little surprised that they did create such a marque ride that will be somewhat limiting - or at least not have options for those that cannot fit (a different type of seat that maybe doesn't move as much (at all) but anyone can fit in). I do think this is still the test period and they have already starting making some adjustments ... I definitely hope they have a clear solution by opening day or at least a fully vetting guest recovery process for those that don't fit ... if not, like you said with Universal, I hope people do voice their disappointment and frustration and Disney adjusts it further if possible

And I also hope they take the feedback and ensure for the new Star Wars rides it isn't an issue

I'm not saying rides can't have restrictions. Unfortunately, some of them do. But when you make size an issue for a society that is oversized whereas before you've been very accommodating, well, what changed?

I too hope they find ways to be more accommodating to larger people.

 

[Jetku]

I'm not saying rides can't have restrictions. Unfortunately, some of them do. But when you make size an issue for a society that is oversized whereas before you've been very accommodating, well, what changed?

I too hope they find ways to be more accommodating to larger people.

I know everyone's situation is different, but when I was trying to motivate myself to lose weight, this was one of the several factors I wrote down in my "Why?" list. Not rides specifically, just "accommodations" in general. I appreciate that companies do try (or are required, where applicable), but even when they do, I still saw it as a negative for myself that I needed to take advantage of these accommodations.

I haven't been to Disney since losing 45lbs to see how rides fit, but I now fit into my wife's driver's seat (she's petite) without moving the seat. Granted I have to adjust since I'm 9 inches taller than her, but at least I "fit"!

This is a very unique ride system and I hope Disney makes all the accommodations possible without sacrificing the ride's vision. But once they do, I hope at least one person out there that still can't ride will see this as a goal for self improvement.

Please note that I'm not speaking about individuals with disabilities out of their control, and I hope Disney can accommodate as many people as possible.