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In my post a few moments ago I sad that the SWE experience would not realize the full potential of this new vision of story telling. I take it all back. This experience would be the culmination of those ideas. And yes, $3,600-$4,000 for a family of four is steep price, but for a once in a lifetime experience of this magnitude, I think those that REALLY wanted it could a find a way. I also think that given its all inclusive nature and the level of cost for WDW it is probably appropriate. Imagine a cruise ship where every crew member also had to be an in character at all times. Not a cheap production to put on.

The price actually sounds reasonable by Disney standards when you consider 2 night in a Deluxe resort, 5 meals included and the immersive experience.
 

Don't forget, though, that it's per person not per room, which could increase the gap pretty quickly

True, but while I was reading the article I was thinking Disney would make the price something completely ridiculous. $1000 per person for this is a premium, but not completely absurd.

Loose breakdown:

Room: $200 ($100 per night per person for $400 room)
Food: $200 (5 meals at average $40 per meal)
DHS day ticket: $100

So that leaves $250 per day for the immersive experience. Most VIP tours are that much or more.

By those standards this isn't crazy pricing.
 
True, but while I was reading the article I was thinking Disney would make the price something completely ridiculous. $1000 per person for this is a premium, but not completely absurd.

Loose breakdown:

Room: $200 ($100 per night per person for $400 room)
Food: $200 (5 meals at average $40 per meal)
DHS day ticket: $100

So that leaves $250 per day for the immersive experience. Most VIP tours are that much or more.

By those standards this isn't crazy pricing.

Sure, but for a family of 4 that means a total of $2000 just for the immersive part, and as far as I can tell that's just for the resort part, right? Any guest gets the immersive experience inside the park.

I agree with you to the extent that I expected it to be multiple thousands for the room only and I was surprised that included food and tickets, I just don't know if it's worth $500 per person for 2 days of immersive experience just at your resort.

ETA: as I'm thinking about this, it could be because I'm not a mega SW fan... I might feel totally different if it was a fandom that I was uber-passionate about (HP, LotR)
 
Sure, but for a family of 4 that means a total of $2000 just for the immersive part, and as far as I can tell that's just for the resort part, right? Any guest gets the immersive experience inside the park.

I agree with you to the extent that I expected it to be multiple thousands for the room only and I was surprised that included food and tickets, I just don't know if it's worth $500 per person for 2 days of immersive experience just at your resort.

ETA: as I'm thinking about this, it could be because I'm not a mega SW fan... I might feel totally different if it was a fandom that I was uber-passionate about (HP, LotR)

They would obviously be targeting people who would normally stay at a Deluxe resort paying $500/night or higher anyway.

This isn't something we would do every year, but I would consider paying for it once. However if the price comes in any higher than that I would pass. At $1500 per person I'm just not a big enough fanatic to pay that much.

It does sound very cool though if they can pull it off.
 
Sure, but for a family of 4 that means a total of $2000 just for the immersive part, and as far as I can tell that's just for the resort part, right? Any guest gets the immersive experience inside the park.

I agree with you to the extent that I expected it to be multiple thousands for the room only and I was surprised that included food and tickets, I just don't know if it's worth $500 per person for 2 days of immersive experience just at your resort.

ETA: as I'm thinking about this, it could be because I'm not a mega SW fan... I might feel totally different if it was a fandom that I was uber-passionate about (HP, LotR)
I feel like if I could stay at Hogwarts for 2 nights I would find a way to do it no matter the cost. easy.
 
So I can see the story engine concept working very well for that immersive SW hotel experience.

I can't see it working in the theme park. Even if you limit guests...there are still going to be almost wall to wall people in the SW land. Think of how crowded some of the Disney lands (like Fantasyland) can get in the middle of the day on just regular sized crowd days. You can't have that super high level of immersive experience if all the cast members who are involved in the story have lines of 20+ people waiting to talk to them.

When I play a very immersive video game like World of Warcraft, I don't have to line up to talk to the quest giver. I just get to walk right up and interact.

Unless the story is driven entirely by your magic band or some element like a video screen that you are given, I just can't see it working like they want it to.

If it is like Universal's Harry Potter wand technology where you interact with the area and do spells, you'll still have to wait in line to use those elements. It won't be a fluid story experience, it will be a 'oooh this exciting thing happened let's rush to the next story element then wait 15 minutes and watch other people do it which ruins the surprise'.

Maybe I'm getting this entirely wrong and someone else can explain it to me. I just don't think this type of storytelling will work in the theme parks where you have massive amounts of people who want to 'play'. Though I do agree I can see it working in a very limited environment, like the proposed SW hotel.

I'm not arguing that the land won't be very immersive, I don't understand how they could do a highly interactive choose your own adventure type thing unless it is all just on a screen you are holding. If you have to interact with the cast members and elements around the land, I don't think it will work like it should.
 
So I can see the story engine concept working very well for that immersive SW hotel experience.

I can't see it working in the theme park. Even if you limit guests...there are still going to be almost wall to wall people in the SW land. Think of how crowded some of the Disney lands (like Fantasyland) can get in the middle of the day on just regular sized crowd days. You can't have that super high level of immersive experience if all the cast members who are involved in the story have lines of 20+ people waiting to talk to them.

When I play a very immersive video game like World of Warcraft, I don't have to line up to talk to the quest giver. I just get to walk right up and interact.

Unless the story is driven entirely by your magic band or some element like a video screen that you are given, I just can't see it working like they want it to.

If it is like Universal's Harry Potter wand technology where you interact with the area and do spells, you'll still have to wait in line to use those elements. It won't be a fluid story experience, it will be a 'oooh this exciting thing happened let's rush to the next story element then wait 15 minutes and watch other people do it which ruins the surprise'.

Maybe I'm getting this entirely wrong and someone else can explain it to me. I just don't think this type of storytelling will work in the theme parks where you have massive amounts of people who want to 'play'. Though I do agree I can see it working in a very limited environment, like the proposed SW hotel.

I'm not arguing that the land won't be very immersive, I don't understand how they could do a highly interactive choose your own adventure type thing unless it is all just on a screen you are holding. If you have to interact with the cast members and elements around the land, I don't think it will work like it should.
I get that and I don't think it will ever be very fluid enough where you just walk up and do things without any crowds or lines. I do think this will work in a theme park though. They done various tests for this kind of stuff too.
 
When I play a very immersive video game like World of Warcraft, I don't have to line up to talk to the quest giver. I just get to walk right up and interact.

This is so incredibly off topic but I remember things very differently. Once the expansions and major content patches are out for a while, things die down a lot. But I imagine this will be a whole lot like the Sunwell patch in Burning Crusade where everybody and their mom was trying to buy from the reputation vendors. Literally people on top of people trying to click on an NPC on the ground. That's kinda how Wizarding World feels to me during midday and this is going to be exactly like that.
 
This is so incredibly off topic but I remember things very differently. Once the expansions and major content patches are out for a while, things die down a lot. But I imagine this will be a whole lot like the Sunwell patch in Burning Crusade where everybody and their mom was trying to buy from the reputation vendors. Literally people on top of people trying to click on an NPC on the ground. That's kinda how Wizarding World feels to me during midday and this is going to be exactly like that.

It prob depended on how popular your server was. But yeah, I do remember a few expansions where it was hard to click on the NPC you needed. But still, my point was that it will be rare to be able to walk up to SW cast members and be the only one trying to talk to them if this story experience stuff is what I think it is.
 
I get that and I don't think it will ever be very fluid enough where you just walk up and do things without any crowds or lines. I do think this will work in a theme park though. They done various tests for this kind of stuff too.

You mean like the test where they had Flynn Rider run around the Tangled area of Fantasyland trying to do a cutesy little 'the guards are after me routine' and he just got mobbed every day and had people lining up and chasing him for photos? So they nixed the whole idea after a week or so.

Sorry, that was a very sassy remark but that is the first thing that came to mind :teeth:
 
You mean like the test where they had Flynn Rider run around the Tangled area of Fantasyland trying to do a cutesy little 'the guards are after me routine' and he just got mobbed every day and had people lining up and chasing him for photos? So they nixed the whole idea after a week or so.

Sorry, that was a very sassy remark but that is the first thing that came to mind :teeth:
No if you read the Story Engine article from Blog Mickey that I posted, Disneyland did an extensive test experience for this type of theme park experience.
 















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