News Round Up 2017

[TexasKiwiPrincess]

Okay so here are my thoughts on Rivers of Light based on the video.

Positives

The fountains and projections were really cool.
The moment the animals come out is also really cool.
The fire affect
The "We Are One" song

Negatives

The animal floats are not as big of a part as I'd had hoped.
The ending doesn't wow but it also isn't bad, it use kind of ties it together.

So it's not illuminations but it's not bad. I'd definitely go and see this on my trip.

Loved the fountains! Actually wanted more of that. I was surprised how clear the projections were. I watched the Jungle Book filler show and wasn't impressed with those projections. Clearly that issue has been resolved!

The fire effect was confusing to me. The whole time the show was about water and light and prisms and then they tossed in fire? What the heck?

I agree about the song. I can see it catching on.

I too wanted more from the lantern animals. I think they will be way more impressive in person. It's tough to see how big they are from the video.

 

[rteetz]

Loved the fountains! Actually wanted more of that. I was surprised how clear the projections were. I watched the Jungle Book filler show and wasn't impressed with those projections. Clearly that issue has been resolved!

The fire effect was confusing to me. The whole time the show was about water and light and prisms and then they tossed in fire? What the heck?

I agree about the song. I can see it catching on.

I too wanted more from the lantern animals. I think they will be way more impressive in person. It's tough to see how big they are from the video.

Jungle book was thrown together and was mainly taking movie shots and putting them on the water screens. These projections were actually made for the water screens.

The fire is supposed to be a WOW moment. I don't think it does that but I also think its okay as part of the show.

Many don't seem to like the music so far. The We Are One vocal parts are my favorite. The rest is just okay.

 

[WillJenDisney]

I prefer cilantro...

Credit where credit is due...that's the policy and will continue to be. No "dust" because I'm not 6...

You will see a pattern if you are fair...which frankly you are not being.

I believe I'm more than fair. You, on the other hand, are nothing but negative issue, every time, for years on end.

For the first time since 2004 (other than a year off because of a newborn), we're not going to Disney World for more than a year. That's because of Hollywood Studios being a half-park, Avatar and and the night show not being up yet, and, most notably, no night time parade at Magic Kingdom. So we're speaking with out wallets about what we're unhappy about. Difference is, that doesn't mean I have to act like every single thing they do it wrong. I dare say I have the objective view, based on my actions and words. You just hate on everything they do, with absurdly unrealistic expectations that no for-profit business could follow.

 

[luisov]

It's a really nice show. Nothing too impressive. Enjoyable regardless... I think there's something missing in there. Additional live performers, more fountains, more light effects, more fire... Something. Some bits rely too much on the projections, and I was kind of expecting for something else to happen. It's also missing a wow moment. The music is really good. As far as the water screens goes, when you compare the really colorful and beautiful concept art with what they actually projected, you can tell there's something missing.

It's no Illuminations or World of Color, but it's still a good addition to AK and one I'm looking forward to see live.

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

Many don't seem to like the music so far. The We Are One vocal parts are my favorite. The rest is just okay.

As a musician, I found the music to be a lot better than the Jungle Book show. The "We Are One" song is already stuck in my head. In my opinion, I put the music up there with Illuminations (my favorite show on Disney property). I absolutely love the Illuminations soundtrack, and I'm sure I will buy this soundtrack if Disney decides to sell it. I really don't know where I will rate this show amongst all of the shows on Disney property quite yet, but I enjoyed it based on the video. I need to see it in person before I can fully decide how I feel about it.

 

[rteetz]

As a musician, I found the music to be a lot better than the Jungle Book show. The "We Are One" song is already stuck in my head. In my opinion, I put the music up there with Illuminations (my favorite show on Disney property). I absolutely love the Illuminations soundtrack, and I'm sure I will buy this soundtrack if Disney decides to sell it. I really don't know where I will rate this show amongst all of the shows on Disney property quite yet, but I enjoyed it based on the video. I need to see it in person before I can fully decide how I feel about it.

I agree I thought the We are one part was great. Illuminations is also my favorite and I could listen to that soundtrack on repeat. Disney is planning on selling this soundtrack by the way.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I believe I'm more than fair. You, on the other hand, are nothing but negative issue, every time, for years on end.

For the first time since 2004 (other than a year off because of a newborn), we're not going to Disney World for more than a year. That's because of Hollywood Studios being a half-park, Avatar and and the night show not being up yet, and, most notably, no night time parade at Magic Kingdom. So we're speaking with out wallets about what we're unhappy about. Difference is, that doesn't mean I have to act like every single thing they do it wrong. I dare say I have the objective view, based on my actions and words. You just hate on everything they do, with absurdly unrealistic expectations that no for-profit business could follow.

Again...you feel you have a grasp on my thoughts and you don't.

I am more than critical...but I can give praise for thousands of different things disney has done and hopefully will do...

But i also recognize that they tend to be cyclical...and they have not been in a particularly praise worthy arc as of late. But stay tuned.

The difference here is that I'm not claiming to "know" you...just pointed out with a benefit of the doubt mentality that you are incorrect on this particular stance. If you look closely...it's not hard to see that i don't "hate" disney at all...I simply won't give free passes.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

It's a really nice show. Nothing too impressive. Enjoyable regardless... I think there's something missing in there. Additional live performers, more fountains, more light effects, more fire... Something. Some bits rely too much on the projections, and I was kind of expecting for something else to happen. It's also missing a wow moment. The music is really good. As far as the water screens goes, when you compare the really colorful and beautiful concept art with what they actually projected, you can tell there's something missing.

It's no Illuminations or World of Color, but it's still a good addition to AK and one I'm looking forward to see live.

So a 6-7 on a scale of 10?

Compare it to fantasmic...I mean when you first saw it 20 years ago...

??

 

[HeroOfWDW]

*sees opening dates* Yes! Awesome!
*sees clips of ROL* Sigh, what a waste of time

 

[rteetz]

So a 6-7 on a scale of 10?

Compare it to fantasmic...I mean when you first saw it 20 years ago...

??

Yes I'd give it about a 7.

 

[rteetz]

News

The maleficent dragon in Paris has slightly updated look from its Orlando sister.

https://twitter.com/ed92live/status/829287090319945729

 

[rteetz]

News

The Jostens Center at ESPN WWoS has run its sponsorship and now will just be called the J center.

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...d-of-sports-jostens-center-to-change-name.htm

 

[skier_pete]

Yeah - a big part of the problem with ROL is that the 9 month delay will almost automatically get us DIE HARDS saying "That's It?" I am still choosing not to watch the whole video to see it live. I have to say, things like World of Color, you watch the video of it and you think "Well that's cool, but what's the big deal" and then you go and see it and say "Holy S&$#!" Not saying this will be that - but I think videos of shows like this just don't tell enough.

I like that we will be down there in November, hopefully everything in AK will settle out by then.

And I know there's a separate thread for it - but glad to see they are keeping SWL on track for 2019. That to me is a reasonable date for something they started building in 2016 that is terribly complicated. (And it also seems to confirm that TSL will be next year at worst.)

When is the last time we had 3 MAJOR projects open in 3 consecutive years at WDW? 2017-Pandora, 2018 - Toy Story, 2019 - Star Wars. It's pretty exciting.

 

[TwoMisfits]

Yeah - a big part of the problem with ROL is that the 9 month delay will almost automatically get us DIE HARDS saying "That's It?" I am still choosing not to watch the whole video to see it live. I have to say, things like World of Color, you watch the video of it and you think "Well that's cool, but what's the big deal" and then you go and see it and say "Holy S&$#!" Not saying this will be that - but I think videos of shows like this just don't tell enough.

I like that we will be down there in November, hopefully everything in AK will settle out by then.

And I know there's a separate thread for it - but glad to see they are keeping SWL on track for 2019. That to me is a reasonable date for something they started building in 2016 that is terribly complicated. (And it also seems to confirm that TSL will be next year at worst.)

When is the last time we had 3 MAJOR projects open in 3 consecutive years at WDW? 2017-Pandora, 2018 - Toy Story, 2019 - Star Wars. It's pretty exciting.

But shouldn't we have big projects every year now that the parks are in their "mature" phase? Shouldn't sections be changed every 20-25 years (min)? With about 20-40 sections across all the parks (no idea how you count EPCOT - each pavilion or groups of countries/pavilions or just 2 parts - FW and IG?), shouldn't we be seeing a major project in a park every year? Not just a refurb in a park, but an actual overhaul and new section...Has Disney made us thankful for the bare minimum they are doing when we should be asking for that as the minimum?

 

[mikepizzo]

Yeah - a big part of the problem with ROL is that the 9 month delay will almost automatically get us DIE HARDS saying "That's It?" I am still choosing not to watch the whole video to see it live. I have to say, things like World of Color, you watch the video of it and you think "Well that's cool, but what's the big deal" and then you go and see it and say "Holy S&$#!" Not saying this will be that - but I think videos of shows like this just don't tell enough.

I like that we will be down there in November, hopefully everything in AK will settle out by then.

And I know there's a separate thread for it - but glad to see they are keeping SWL on track for 2019. That to me is a reasonable date for something they started building in 2016 that is terribly complicated. (And it also seems to confirm that TSL will be next year at worst.)

When is the last time we had 3 MAJOR projects open in 3 consecutive years at WDW? 2017-Pandora, 2018 - Toy Story, 2019 - Star Wars. It's pretty exciting.

The part of your post I put in bold is pretty interesting. As we all thought, this means that Disney has the means and ability to build quickly, but they choose not to.

 

[HeroOfWDW]

The part of your post I put in bold is pretty interesting. As we all thought, this means that Disney has the means and ability to build quickly, but they choose not to.

I agree. They wouldn't have a bad quarterly report if they built rides quickly and kept opening things for people to have reasons to come back. That being said, if they built their rides fast, they would rush and the quality would severely drop. I enjoy simulators, but I don't want an entire park of them. We already have a Universal Studios . *drops mic*

 

[TheMaxRebo]

But shouldn't we have big projects every year now that the parks are in their "mature" phase? Shouldn't sections be changed every 20-25 years (min)? With about 20-40 sections across all the parks (no idea how you count EPCOT - each pavilion or groups of countries/pavilions or just 2 parts - FW and IG?), shouldn't we be seeing a major project in a park every year? Not just a refurb in a park, but an actual overhaul and new section...Has Disney made us thankful for the bare minimum they are doing when we should be asking for that as the minimum?

Should we? Seems like a lot - though I guess depends on your definition of "big Project"

Maybe because we haven't gotten a entire new gate in a while (when previously they were about every 10 years) it seems like we should get more per year now - but like an entire new Land every years seems pretty ambitious

Should there be something new every year? Yeah, but I don't think it needs to be a new land. I mean, in 2016 we got:
- Soarin' over the World
- Frozen Ever After and new A&E meet and greet
- Animal Kingdom Open at night
- Majority of Disney Springs becoming a reality
- Additional new restaurants in Skippers Canteen, Tiffins, and re-imagined Flying Fish
- Star Wars Launch Bay
- New Star Wars Projection Show

That's not nothing

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I agree. They wouldn't have a bad quarterly report if they built rides quickly and kept opening things for people to have reasons to come back. That being said, if they built their rides fast, they would rush and the quality would severely drop. I enjoy simulators, but I don't want an entire park of them. We already have a Universal Studios . *drops mic*

wait, what? The bad quarterly reports are due to ESPN and related media - revenue at the parks was up ... how would putting more money into expenditures make the parks more profitable?

 

[rteetz]

wait, what? The bad quarterly reports are due to ESPN and related media - revenue at the parks was up ... how would putting more money into expenditures make the parks more profitable?

Yep, Park revenue was up due to increased prices, attendance down, and hotel occupancy levels at 91% which is pretty good.

 

[rteetz]

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