News Round Up 2017

[lockedoutlogic]

I think there value to a reserved viewing area for the Star Wars show as your viewing angle really impacts how you experience that show. And this reserved area is split so kids have an area up front with a great view, etc.

So to me paying for the dessert party and having this area is worth it vs. saving a good spot for 1 hour + with 3 little kids (plus by doing the dessert party we only did snacks/apps instead of a big dinner so saved some $ there as well)

Ok...but you're talking about the dessert thing...and I grant leniency on that. After all...I did pay $18 per person for one after my wedding

...but this is dropping the price of the tour $30 and stripping out the dessert party that they assign a $60 street value to...

R I P...off

Sometimes if it waddles and quacks...you know?

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

I think you just identified why the price is likely to stay the same for less product...

It's Friday...and I'm going to yak later, so I'm in a good mood...but it's still appropriate to give a friendly reminder to everyone that we have GOT to start saying no to this stuff. It's absolutely a matter of consumer responsibility...not "I think it's worth it to ME, because I THINK..."

Bloated products should and need to fail...

I did the package because I thought it was a good value. Why does "I have done this package way to many times to count" identify the package is to stay the same price for less? What will determine this is if people decide to not book the package because of this.

What I find funny is on my most recent trip, we ate at Hollywood Brown Derby with the package (will never eat at Hollywood and Vine and Mama Melrose), and this had been one of our favorite places. After our meal there, we said that we would never eat there again either. So, this won't effect us anyways.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I did the package because I thought it was a good value. Why does "I have done this package way to many times to count" identify the package is to stay the same price for less? What will determine this is if people decide to not book the package because of this.

What I find funny is on my most recent trip, we ate at Hollywood Brown Derby with the package (will never eat at Hollywood and Vine and Mama Melrose), and this had been one of our favorite places. After our meal there, we said that we would never eat there again either. So, this won't effect us anyways.

Sorry...I came off harsh. It's not "you" that is to blame...

But the consumption encourages their continual tweaking of prices and reducing quality/value...

We got a pattern here, folks.

I hope you dump it now. Why pay more for less food and a REALLY tired show?

What happened to brown derby? If that gets screwed up...I may never go again..

And then jade will be happy with shorter lines

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Ok...but you're talking about the dessert thing...and I grant leniency on that. After all...I did pay $18 per person for one after my wedding

...but this is dropping the price of the tour $30 and stripping out the dessert party that they assign a $60 street value to...

R I P...off

Sometimes if it waddles and quacks...you know?

oh the tour - yeah, I didn't think it made sense to spend the money on it to begin with ... not like there was some special experience tied to it or anything ... so without the party then it really makes no sense

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Sorry...I came off harsh. It's not "you" that is to blame...

But the consumption encourages their continual tweaking of prices and reducing quality/value...

We got a pattern here, folks.

I hope you dump it now. Why pay more for less food and a REALLY tired show?

What happened to brown derby? If that gets screwed up...I may never go again..

And then jade will be happy with shorter lines

I think it is the reducing the quality that is the biggest issue (or, extrapolating out - the value of said quality vs price). I see a Disney trip as a bit of a luxury item so I expect a high quality experience and am ok with paying for it (to some extent) - but when the quality goes way down and the prices go up, it makes it hard to stomach (pun partially intended) and very much impacts what I do and how often I go and how I go there

 

[AMusicLifeForMe]

Sorry...I came off harsh. It's not "you" that is to blame...

But the consumption encourages their continual tweaking of prices and reducing quality/value...

We got a pattern here, folks.

I hope you dump it now. Why pay more for less food and a REALLY tired show?

What happened to brown derby? If that gets screwed up...I may never go again..

And then jade will be happy with shorter lines

I realize the pattern. The pattern hasn't started here. It has been happening all around the WDW Resort.

Brown Derby...We had really bad service and the food was mediocre at best for a signature restaurant. We've had much better food around property and the food had been starting to go downhill for the last several times we went. This was sorta the final chance for us.

 

[Roxyfire]

Sorry...I came off harsh. It's not "you" that is to blame...

But the consumption encourages their continual tweaking of prices and reducing quality/value...

We got a pattern here, folks.

I hope you dump it now. Why pay more for less food and a REALLY tired show?

What happened to brown derby? If that gets screwed up...I may never go again..

And then jade will be happy with shorter lines

It sounds to me more like tweaking due to that "great value on the dining plan" thing. I did book the package last time but dropped it because it seems too spendy. And now definitely so.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

It sounds to me more like tweaking due to that "great value on the dining plan" thing. I did book the package last time but dropped it because it seems too spendy. And now definitely so.

You mean the marginal dining plan now?

Most of the number crunching around here I've seen seems to be maybe 10% discount...which means it's close to pre-paying at full price.

"Come, follow me children...listen to the magic flute..."

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I realize the pattern. The pattern hasn't started here. It has been happening all around the WDW Resort.

Brown Derby...We had really bad service and the food was mediocre at best for a signature restaurant. We've had much better food around property and the food had been starting to go downhill for the last several times we went. This was sorta the final chance for us.

Right...are you a fan of history?

When the 20th Maine ran out of ammo on Little Round Top, the wise move would have been to retreat behind the 83rd Pennsylvanian and hunker down...

...instead, they swung the gate down the hill.

We need to start holding the line and/or pushing back. I care not that people are dumping crap espn...nor should anyone else. They need to figure out other ways to get their money. Any idiot can increase prices.

 

[Roxyfire]

You mean the marginal dining plan now?

Most of the number crunching around here I've seen seems to be maybe 10% discount...which means it's close to pre-paying at full price.

"Come, follow me children...listen to the magic flute..."

Regardless of the thoughts on the dining plan as a whole, this one credit was probably a pretty good use, getting a little more out of Disney than usual. So of course that had to go away.
I personally don't get any value out of the dining plan but if someone does, good for them. I just hate the idea of trading real currency for credits that expire.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Regardless of the thoughts on the dining plan as a whole, this one credit was probably a pretty good use, getting a little more out of Disney than usual. So of course that had to go away.
I personally don't get any value out of the dining plan but if someone does, good for them. I just hate the idea of trading real currency for credits that expire.

Especially since now they've begun to entice me to use dvc/ap/visa discounts to eat at the same places...which means there's a weakness in the product.

Why prepay?

 

[Roxyfire]

Especially since now they've begun to entice me to use dvc/ap/visa discounts to eat at the same places...which means there's a weakness in the product.

Why prepay?

Yeah exactly, it's a total risk. Now, I can see it in certain situations. But for the most part, unless you have mostly people who are bottomless pits of food and/or little kids, there's no point. I can't even mentally get Tables in Wonderland to work out at the price point. I'm sure it's easier if you have more than 2.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I realize the pattern. The pattern hasn't started here. It has been happening all around the WDW Resort.

Brown Derby...We had really bad service and the food was mediocre at best for a signature restaurant. We've had much better food around property and the food had been starting to go downhill for the last several times we went. This was sorta the final chance for us.

We ate at the outside lounge area and really liked it - you can still get the Cobb salad and the kobe beef slider is the best burger I have gotten on property - plus no ADR needed and with it mostly being small plates the total cost (at least for us) wound up being much lower. Just a thought for the future

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Yeah exactly, it's a total risk. Now, I can see it in certain situations. But for the most part, unless you have mostly people who are bottomless pits of food and/or little kids, there's no point. I can't even mentally get Tables in Wonderland to work out at the price point. I'm sure it's easier if you have more than 2.

I'm a long proponent of the DDC/TIW...

...but you know...at $175 (it was $50/$75 forever...just another price increase "just cause we can") combined with the dvc "first class citizen" discounts...I don't know if I will get it again. The alcohol discount is a key advantage still...

...I'll have to call beer dave over to nomad one day and we can "show em who's boss"

 

[rteetz]

News

GF bus stop has been relocated

http://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2017/08/bus-stop-refurbishment-and-other-grand.html

 

[rteetz]

News

Walt Disney World to honor 82nd airborne unit

http://www.wdwmagic.com/attractions...o-honor-the-u.s.-armys-82nd-airborne-unit.htm

 

[preemiemama]

Yeah exactly, it's a total risk. Now, I can see it in certain situations. But for the most part, unless you have mostly people who are bottomless pits of food and/or little kids, there's no point. I can't even mentally get Tables in Wonderland to work out at the price point. I'm sure it's easier if you have more than 2.

We have 3, and DS is 17. We usually break even or do a little better. For us, the value (assuming we continue to do that) is the prepay and not really worrying about what we order. We eat the way they dictate, and use snacks as we go. If we have some (not baskets full) left, we bring home some treats for another day. There's a long debate on it on another thread- I posted there about how a friend and her family did save quite a bit with the deluxe plan and a CRT reservation. Many deem it a bad deal, others claim it's the best thing since sliced bread. I say do the research and see. Probably not any better than TIW or other discounts, but definitely worth the lack of hassle for us.

That said, I do see the prices going up and the value going down. That is happening with food in general on property (ex: there is also a thread on changes at 'Ohana breakfast...). They need to do better.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

We have 3, and DS is 17. We usually break even or do a little better. For us, the value (assuming we continue to do that) is the prepay and not really worrying about what we order. We eat the way they dictate, and use snacks as we go. If we have some (not baskets full) left, we bring home some treats for another day. There's a long debate on it on another thread- I posted there about how a friend and her family did save quite a bit with the deluxe plan and a CRT reservation. Many deem it a bad deal, others claim it's the best thing since sliced bread. I say do the research and see. Probably not any better than TIW or other discounts, but definitely worth the lack of hassle for us.

That said, I do see the prices going up and the value going down. That is happening with food in general on property (ex: there is also a thread on changes at 'Ohana breakfast...). They need to do better.

I'm not disputing your approach...but the bolded part is what I see a lot and technically...that doesn't fit the definition of "value".

Paying is paying no matter when you do it.

That also...knowing how the fox operates...is the fundamental psychology of the dining plan. They want you to show up with money for stuff in July after paying for your food in January and they know that softens the defenses. It's why upsells are done on cruise ships as well. You feel double the pain in the pants...but you get time to heal in between the blows.

Basic consumer habits.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

Let's get back on track please and thank you.

 

[Jetku]

News

GF bus stop has been relocated

http://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2017/08/bus-stop-refurbishment-and-other-grand.html

I'm destined to visit the GF with construction only...

At least this isn't as bad as the first time we went in 2012 with pool, store, QS, etc all under construction.