New dress code

[mitros]

I posted this on the restaurant board as well. Mouse Planet says that Disney is starting a dress code at certain "better" restaurants on property, namely, Jiko, California Grill, Flying Fish, Citrico's, Narcoossees, Artist Point and Yachtsmans Steakhouse.
No more flip flops, torn clothing, swimsuits or swimsuit coverups, hats, tank tops and t-shirts.
It is now business casual at those listed restaurants.
Whatta' ya' think?

 

[DVCconvert]

Jiko
Flying Fish
California Grill
Citrico's
Narcoossees
Artist Point
Yachtsmans Steakhouse
No more t shirts, flip flops, swimsuits, swimsuit coverups, tank tops, and torn clothing It is now "business casual" at these eateries.

I for one, would never have gone to those places with the "forbidden" attire.
I consider this 'reasonable'.

 

[psharrock]

I was in the Yachtsmans steakhouse tonight and there is a notice before you go in regarding the attire.

I was wearing a white beach club villas t-shirt will a collar and trousers and had no problem getting in. I saw other people in far worse attire than me, and obviously no one said anything to them.

Paul

 

[FrozenTundra]

I don't know if this is a change of not as this is the first year we've done it, but when we booked our Party for the Senses we were informed that the attire was to be " smart,casual resort" with the definition of no shorts,tee's, sneakers or flip flops. Women to wear business casual pants suits or dress/skirt.

 

[Luv2Roam]

I have been told this type of attire when making PS' at these restaurants for probably as long as I can remember. I don't recall ever not being told this type of attire. So what's the difference? Maybe now they will enforce it?

 

[Peter Pirate]

Tundra, what's 'Party For the Senses'? They said no shorts? This is ridiculous.

As for the code, it seems senseless to me. They are filling these places to capacity as it is what is the incentive? If I'm on vacation and I'm at the Park in a Disney T-shirt, shorts and tennis shoes why are they expecting me to go back to my room and change?

 

[DancingBear]

[SIGH....]Mr. Pirate, don't you understand---it's because of the folks like you that don't understand the need for the rule that we need the rule.

 

[Peter Pirate]

I undedrstand that. I don't understand why they feel I need to understand what should be already understood though. Understand?

 

[raidermatt]

I'm guessing the "Party for the Senses" is some kind of special deal. I agree that code sounds rigoshdarndiculous for WDW, but I'd like to hear more about what it is first.

As for the rules in general...

I understand not allowing these:

...torn clothing, swimsuits or swimsuit coverups... tank tops

The rest, however...

flip flops...hats... and t-shirts.

... is taking things a little too seriously, given the overall environment. Flip flops are no longer viewed as slum shoes by many and hats and t-shirts covers way too much ground for the restaurants in question, again, given the overall environment.

I agree with Pete, seems to be a lot about nothing. Are that many people really showing up in torn shorts and wife beaters at the California Grill? Or string bikinis at Jiko?

From a practical pov, is Disney really going to turn away a family who has one member wearing flip flops with their sun dress, or a clean Mickey Mouse t-shirt with their Dockers shorts?

My guess is they just want to post the code to ensure that most people dress reasonably, and they have no intention of turning anyone away unless its a "grevious" offense.

Me personally? The only things on that list I'd even consider wearing to those restaurants are the flip flops and a t-shirt, but that's just me. And I have no desire to have Disney start telling anybody else they can't wear something just because I wouldn't wear it there. In fact, if the ladies want to start wearing bikinis to the restaurants, I enthusiastically support their decision.

 

[FrozenTundra]

Party for the Senses is a dining experience held on Saturday evenings during the F&W. It starts with reserve seating for the 5:30 Eat to the Beat concert followed by an evening of appetizer size portions of gourmet delights & various wines. Starts at 6:30, ends at 9:00 with I believe special viewing area for Illuminations. It's held in the old Millenium Village building. Price is $95.00 pp.

 

[Peter Pirate]

I'll support the bikini's too, Matt... ...Damn, I picked the wrong day to give up being a perv.

I agree with not allowing the torn and the wretched, but a $40.00 Mickey T-Shirt that you bought at WDW earlier that day? And shorts? Who in Florida wants to wear anthing else during the six months of summer???

Pirate

 

[raidermatt]

Nice, Pete. Any Airplane reference is a good one.

Scoop, "interesting concept". If it really involves any tangible changes to make that happen, I think its a mistake. But if its just a case of people feeling that a restaurant is more of an "experience" because it has a posted dress code, even if not strictly enforced, then ok, I guess. They deserve to be separated from their money.

 

[cdtommie]

Tundra, what's 'Party For the Senses'? They said no shorts? This is ridiculous.

As for the code, it seems senseless to me. They are filling these places to capacity as it is what is the incentive? If I'm on vacation and I'm at the Park in a Disney T-shirt, shorts and tennis shoes why are they expecting me to go back to my room and change?

Peter, when we booked PFTS they said nothing about no shorts (I'm wearing shorts like I have the past four years)...it's the same "business casual" rule that applies to the restaurants mentioned. We also booked the Spirited Ball and were told "business casual".

 

[FrozenTundra]

Hmmmm.... wonder why we were told what we were told then. I know I didn't misunderstand her because I wrote it all down and even joked with her that now my DW will want to buy a new party dress for the event.

Well, we'd rather go over-dressed then under-dressed so it looks like she's still getting the dress.

 

[cdtommie]

It could possibly be one C/M's interpretation of business casual. No shorts would inconsistent with the "better" restaurant dress code.

 

[raidermatt]

Not to further complicate things, but "business casual" rarely means shorts are ok.

"Resort casual" is usually more in line with what was posted at the beginning of the thread.

Guess that's why they listed specific no-no's.

 

[cdtommie]

The real definition of business casual would eliminate any type of shorts from these restaurants. I don't think this is Disney's intention. I could understand this logic in northern states but not in the heat of Florida.

 

[mitros]

OK, The mouseplanet article states that the restaurants are defining "business casual" as dress shorts, pants, jean pants, collared shirts, blouses and sweaters. So, I guess the only determination of "business casual" that counts is the one that Disney wants. Now, wheather they are going to enforce it, well, time will tell.

 

[raidermatt]

People are on vacation at a theme park resort in frequently oppresive heat and humidity. The majority of them either don't want to deal with anything above regular casual dress, or at the least understand that some around them won't want to deal with it.

After all, if someone is going to go to Jiko, pay $50 for a bottle of wine and $30 for each entree, then they should be able to expect a less casual situation...

Its already a less casual situation, its just that someone might have to see somebody else in less than "business casual" attire.

Again, just posting the dress code will likely raise the level of dress among the guests at these restaurants.

Enforcing it as posted, however, would be a mistake. This is far different situation than NYC.

Besides, nobody is stopping anybody from getting dressed up for these restaurants. Many people do get dressed up, and very few people come in looking like slobs. Its the forcing of the issue to the point of banning all t-shirts, flip flops, etc, that would be the mistake.

 

[Peter Pirate]

Good post Matt...Gee, we've been agreeing quite a lot lately!

I can't understand the whole "dressed is best" idea...I always thought it was what's inside that = class...After all, to look at me you might THINK I was a Key's derilict, but those who know me KNOW it's true...meaning sometimes looks aren't deceiving (point???)...But while it's true that I may be a stumbling Key's rumdrinker with my Jimmy Buffett T, Key West flip flops and face that see's a razor once a week whether I need it or not, the fact is I have the $ to go to these restaurants, I have the pallete to appreciate but I don't have the tie or shoes to please some...Besides if they say I can't wear shorts I might just decide to not wear them and that'll really get folks talkin'.

Now, just how incoherrent was that? Top it friends!