New credit card guarantees. Restaurant list, policy & common questions in 1st post

I haven't searched through the entire thread but maybe someone knows. With this new policy are they allowing you to modify the number of people on your reservation rather than just cancel? We most likely will have 6 people on our May trip but there is a real chance it will end up being just 5. For normal dining, I just made reservations for 6 because there is no harm if we show up with 5. I'm really not sure what to do about our character meal and signature meals. Book 6 but what if 5th person doesn't go? I won't find out until close to the trip and may not be able to get that same time (or any reservation at all) by the time I know for sure. I don't want to have to pay for them not being there either? Do I just make a reservation for 6 then have another party member make the reservation for 5 and cancel the one we don't need as soon as we know if the 6th person can be with us for the trip?

This is a difficult one because I think it depends on what cast member you get when you call. Some might require cancelling and rebooking the reservation to change it, at which point you will lose the reservation if there is no availability. But a lot of persons have posted that you can call and have people removed (or added), no change in reservation and no problem. The caveat is that we hear it both ways.
 
This is a difficult one because I think it depends on what cast member you get when you call. Some might require cancelling and rebooking the reservation to change it, at which point you will lose the reservation if there is no availability. But a lot of persons have posted that you can call and have people removed (or added), no change in reservation and no problem. The caveat is that we hear it both ways.

Thanks Nala. I wish they would have a clear policy on this. I've got one set of reservations. As much as I hate double booking, I might have someone else pick up those 3 reservations for the other number of guests. I'd hate to get the CM who can't or won't change the reservation and we get stuck with not enough seats or have to pay for someone who isn't there.
 
So we're only now about 5 months out.

They didn't even give it a chance.

We can agree that Disney had a problem to address.

Only if the problem is not enough revenue. You made a great point. Disney didn't even give the cancel overlapping ADRs a chance.

This new policy looks more and more like the holiday surcharge. A source of new dining revenue.

Well no, it isn't a reservation. It might be part of the name they chose to use to replace the old (more accurate) moniker of "priority seating" but that doesn't make it accurate. No table is reserved for your party.

Disney no longer has an reason to overbook. I'll be demanding compensation if I have to wait longer then 10-15 minutes past my ADR time.
 
Disney no longer has an reason to overbook. I'll be demanding compensation if I have to wait longer then 10-15 minutes past my ADR time.

Very good point. If they haven't adjusted their prior practice of overbooking in conjunction with this policy change, I don't want to be anywhere NEAR the place in 5 months when this starts applying at all ADR's. If every ADR has someone showing up, and they didn't adjust...... it could get pretty ugly. Too many people waiting for fewer open tables. And nobody can bail becuase they've waited beyond a reasonable time without a penalty.
 

Disney no longer has an reason to overbook. I'll be demanding compensation if I have to wait longer then 10-15 minutes past my ADR time.


While I totally understand your point...good luck with that.
 
I could care less if they want my cc # for any or all places, my issue is charge for a true no show, and give a more reasonable time frame to cancel. If I am rude enough not to cancel, then charge me, but if I cancel a 7pm ADR at 8am that is when I think it is over the top to charge.

I totally agree with you. Sometimes unpredictable things happen.
 
Disney no longer has an excuse to overbook. I'll be demanding compensation if I have to wait longer then 10-15 minutes past my ADR time.

They no longer have an excuse but I'm not sure that'll mean they stop. And it isn't even that I think they intend to overbook with this policy in place to assure a near-0% no-show rate... I just don't give their tech people enough credit to change the booking formulas for the restaurants in question, at least not in a timely and effective fashion.

I'm sure compensation won't happen, but I absolutely expect that if I arrive for my ADR and cannot be seated in a timely fashion I will not be penalized for choosing to go elsewhere. Some delays are bound to come up here and there but with young children hour long waits just don't work. That's why we make ADRs and I absolutely will not stand for being charged a cancellation fee if the restaurant is running so far behind that we cannot wait or will have a miserable meal with overtired kids if we do.
 
Disney no longer has an reason to overbook. I'll be demanding compensation if I have to wait longer then 10-15 minutes past my ADR time.

Good luck with that.
 
Good luck with that.

A poster in another thread got a credit for the entire cost of CG meal. The complaint was over portion size.

I have no doubt Disney will be compensating complaining guests.

I'll also be complaining, and asking for compensation, if screaming kids are bothering me.

Disney wants the revenue from this policy then Disney should be prepared to compensate guests who are adversely affected by the consequences of this policy.
 
So Disney can set unrealistic expectations, but their customers can't?
 
So Disney can set unrealistic expectations, but their customers can't?
I think it's completely unrealistic to think that there won't be a meltdown from some child in a restaurant, regardless of the reason, while in WDW. I mean, really....................

Not to mention, how would someone (Disney) know the reason a child is having a meltdown is because their family was "forced" to keep an ADR. Come on, let's be realistic, would it really be Disney's fault because a child may be overstimulated or over tired? No blame on the parent that may have planned too much?

Regardless, if this were to happen and there was a screaming child in a restaurant I would hope that a parent would have enough common sense and courtesy to the other guests to take the child out of the restaurant until they calmed down.
 
I think it's completely unrealistic to think that there won't be a meltdown from some child in a restaurant, regardless of the reason, while in WDW. I mean, really....................

Not to mention, how would someone (Disney) know the reason a child is having a meltdown is because their family was "forced" to keep an ADR. Come on, let's be realistic, would it really be Disney's fault because a child may be overstimulated or over tired? No blame on the parent that may have planned too much?

Regardless, if this were to happen and there was a screaming child in a restaurant I would hope that a parent would have enough common sense and courtesy to the other guests to take the child out of the restaurant until they calmed down.

You miss my point. Of course it's unrealistic to expect there to be no screaming kids in a restaurant at Disney.

But I find their policy of charging someone $10 a head who cancels at 8 AM for a 7 PM dinner to be unreasonable. A customer demanding compensation for being near a screaming kid could also be seen as unreasonable.

I'm only saying that under the new policy Disney is unreasonable, so perhaps they should expect some unreasonable expectations in return.
 
I'm only saying that under the new policy Disney is unreasonable, so perhaps they should expect some unreasonable expectations in return.
In your opinion the policy is unreasonable, but for some reason they decided to make this policy. It was a business decision. We don't know why they made it, but they did. We can speculate all we want.......money, more opportunity for walk up guests, etc., but the bottom line is that they felt they needed to make this policy for their business.

I own a small business & I'm sure there are many policies I have that people don't understand. Actually, I know there are. I hear complaints about some of them & usually the complaints are no relation as to why the policy was put into affect. If someone questions a policy I always explain why it is in place and then the person nods & says, "Oh, now I understand. I had no idea."

Has anyone gotten a response to their letters or phone calls to Disney asking why the policy was made? I know a lot of people were going to voice their opinion about not liking it, but do we know yet why it was made?

And again, I can appreciate wanting a shorter window, but does anyone know why they opted for a one-day cancellation period?
 
And again, I can appreciate wanting a shorter window, but does anyone know why they opted for a one-day cancellation period?

No, and most likely we never will. Disney doesn't make a habit of justifying their decisions no matter how unpopular with or inconvenient for guests. Heck, we can't even get a definitive answer on what "one day" means and that's an aspect of the policy that is immediately relevant to the guest experience!
 
Has anyone gotten a response to their letters or phone calls to Disney asking why the policy was made? I know a lot of people were going to voice their opinion about not liking it, but do we know yet why it was made?

And again, I can appreciate wanting a shorter window, but does anyone know why they opted for a one-day cancellation period?

I did but it really didn't say much.:confused3 I wrote a letter complaining about the 24hr cancellation period. Here is the email letter:

Thank you for contacting us.

I am very sorry to hear about your disappointments with the new dining
cancellation policy. At the Walt Disney World Resort, we strive each and
every day to ensure our Guests have memorable experiences with us. As
you are aware, additional table-service locations now participate in our
dining cancellation policy already in place at select restaurants on
property. When booking a reservation at these restaurants, Guests are
required to provide a credit card to hold a reservation and are charged
$10 per person if the cancellation isn?t made at least one day in
advance. This reduces the number of ?no shows? at our restaurants and
ensures more Guests will have the opportunity to dine at our
table-service restaurants.

Dining cancellations can be made by calling 407-WDW-CNCL, visiting any
table-service restaurant podium, Walt Disney World Resort Hotel front
desk or concierge or by calling 407-WDW-DINE. Guests may also make and
cancel reservations by visiting www.DisneyWorld.com/Dining.

In addition, pre-paid locations will continue to retain the full,
pre-paid amount if Guests are unable to honor the reservation and are
unable to cancel the reservation one day in advance. Special dining
events and packages such as Fantasmic! packages, New Year?s Eve dinners,
Victoria & Albert?s reservations may have different cancellation
requirements.

We truly regret your disappointment with the adjustments made to our
dining cancellation policy and assure you that your remarks have been
shared with the appropriate individuals. Our Guests' impressions are
very important to us, and we appreciate the time you took to share your
thoughts.

Sincerely,

S***** O*****
Guest Services
Walt Disney World Resort
407-***-****
 
Well no, it isn't a reservation. It might be part of the name they chose to use to replace the old (more accurate) moniker of "priority seating" but that doesn't make it accurate. No table is reserved for your party. You simply get preferential treatment on the waiting list, and you might be seated right on time or you might check in at the podium to be told to come back later because they're running so far behind that they're out of pagers. I could accept a fee for true reservations where a no-show or unfilled slot due to a short-notice cancel means a table sits empty but that is not the case with Disney "reservations".

Yep, we've been told it is NOT a reservation (i.e., you are not guaranteed seating at say 7pm if your ADR was 7pm) and we are only put on the list. Sometimes, it works out nicely and we are seated within 10 minutes (but really, that's 10 minutes past our "reservation"), but more often, esp for dinner we have to wait 15-30 minutes and sometimes more. Once again, that is NOT a reservation but as PP said, a promise to seat you at some time. I can't recall a single time that a table was waiting for us EXCEPT when we had a party of 6 and made ressies at Le Cellier. As a party of 4 or a party of 10, we have always waited.

Now I have changed to try to get ADRs closer to opening, so we don't have to wait as long...but sometimes we just don't want to eat dinner at 4pm, ya know?

Regardless, if this were to happen and there was a screaming child in a restaurant I would hope that a parent would have enough common sense and courtesy to the other guests to take the child out of the restaurant until they calmed down.

Just hope you aren't seated next to me! ;) Seriously, if I am forced to keep a ressie or pay $40 then I'm taking my screaming or sick child with me and will make it known to everyone that the only reason we are staying is b/c of the new Disney dining policy. Perhaps a manager will understand and let us out of our ADR ... but perhaps not. However, this will be my response to a very bad and poorly planned policy.

Yes, I fully understand that my alternative is to just not make any ADRs but that is too much of a gamble for me since vacationing in Disney for our family means enjoying sit-down meals and not eating hamburgers/pizza each day:eek: So instead I will gamble that we can make 2-3 ADRs in a week. We used to eat 4-6 TS in a week but I'm not willing to gamble that much.

Now do my children get overstimulated and/or sick regularly at Disney? No. That is why we enjoy doing table-service restaurants b/c our kids are normally well-behaved and like foods other than fast foods (only one time in 6 years did I take my child aside for a time-out at any restaurant, not just Disney, and she came back all calm). But I admit, I lose, as you say "common sense and courtesy" when Disney is not providing me with "common sense and courtesy" either.

As a parent, this new rule is just asking for trouble. I can only hope that Disney will change their mind as more 'nay-sayers', of which I am one voice their opinion directly and indirectly to Disney.



Has anyone gotten a response to their letters or phone calls to Disney asking why the policy was made? I know a lot of people were going to voice their opinion about not liking it, but do we know yet why it was made?

The response I got was same as PP wrote. Basically they say they are doing this to free up table space for others. But they can still free up table space for others w/o charging (my opinion, obviously) for those who cancel.
 
Just hope you aren't seated next to me! ;) Seriously, if I am forced to keep a ressie or pay $40 then I'm taking my screaming or sick child with me and will make it known to everyone that the only reason we are staying is b/c of the new Disney dining policy.

So instead I will gamble that we can make 2-3 ADRs in a week. We used to eat 4-6 TS in a week but I'm not willing to gamble that much.

But I admit, I lose, as you say "common sense and courtesy" when Disney is not providing me with "common sense and courtesy" either.

The response I got was same as PP wrote. Basically they say they are doing this to free up table space for others. But they can still free up table space for others w/o charging (my opinion, obviously) for those who cancel.
I can't speak for others, but if a guest was there with an irritable child and put up a fuss about the fact that they "had to bring" their screaming or sick child to their ADR I certainly wouldn't see any blame on Disney's part. I would question the motives of the parent and wonder why they would do that to their child. That's just me though.

You really don't have to gamble if you still wanted to make 4-6 TS ADR's. Not all the TS restaurants require the CC hold. In fact, I think more don't require the CC hold than do.

I still think it's just common sense & courtesy to other guests to remove a screaming child from a restaurant. Not doing so because you are angry about the policy is just being spiteful.

If that's the response Disney gave you (bolded part) then that is their reasoning. It makes sense to me. It tells me that guests were not canceling their ADR's, therefore, tables were being held and other guests were not able to get these tables, whether it was through an ADR or a walk up.
 
I can't speak for others, but if a guest was there with an irritable child and put up a fuss about the fact that they "had to bring" their screaming or sick child to their ADR I certainly wouldn't see any blame on Disney's part. I would question the motives of the parent and wonder why they would do that to their child. That's just me though.

You really don't have to gamble if you still wanted to make 4-6 TS ADR's. Not all the TS restaurants require the CC hold. In fact, I think more don't require the CC hold than do.

I still think it's just common sense & courtesy to other guests to remove a screaming child from a restaurant. Not doing so because you are angry about the policy is just being spiteful.

If that's the response Disney gave you (bolded part) then that is their reasoning. It makes sense to me. It tells me that guests were not canceling their ADR's, therefore, tables were being held and other guests were not able to get these tables, whether it was through an ADR or a walk up.

First -- I do agree with you on the bold part. As I stated about 20 pages back or so, I have tried to cancel ADRs and was explicitly told I didn't have to do that. Multiple times. So yes we canceled when we could and yes, there were some times we did not.

And I have heard the same again and again from others. But that is just rehashing a whole MAJOR point of those who are against this policy -- if Disney truly wanted to open up ADRs then they would have told people to cancel their ADRs, told CM to willingly accept canceled ADRs and not make me feel like an odd person to cancel.

Disney didn't and thus people couldn't get walk-ups.

Sorry, but my DH enjoys buffets and my kids enjoy characters. Except for Garden Grove (which we are visiting for our very first time based on this new policy), I'm not aware of any buffet with characters that are exempt from this policy.

So yes, my 2-3 meals or 4-6 meals are all affected. I won't gamble with $160 to $240 in fines...but yeah, I will gamble that someone might think I'm a bad parent.

Hopefully, if I just keep our ADRs to 2 or maybe 3 in an 8 day period, we really should be fine, overall. But I won't begrudge someone else for not wanting to pay their 'fine'.

On a related note, our newspaper (Washington Post) just had an article on no-shows at a local restaurant and how they are handling them. So I do understand that this is a problem that is more widespread than Disney and if I were a business owner, I'd be concerned, too on how to address it. FWIW, that restaurant is now keeping a list of people who no-show regularly and putting them on its "naughty list', as they called it and will be told they don't have any openings. Interesting concept. Obviously only works for phone ressies and too many loopholes to get around it ...but does point out that the future of dining reservations is changing...
 
I did but it really didn't say much.:confused3 I wrote a letter complaining about the 24hr cancellation period. Here is the email letter:

Thank you for contacting us.

I am very sorry to hear about your disappointments with the new dining
cancellation policy. At the Walt Disney World Resort, we strive each and
every day to ensure our Guests have memorable experiences with us. As
you are aware, additional table-service locations now participate in our
dining cancellation policy already in place at select restaurants on
property. When booking a reservation at these restaurants, Guests are
required to provide a credit card to hold a reservation and are charged
$10 per person if the cancellation isn?t made at least one day in
advance. This reduces the number of ?no shows? at our restaurants and
ensures more Guests will have the opportunity to dine at our
table-service restaurants.

Dining cancellations can be made by calling 407-WDW-CNCL, visiting any
table-service restaurant podium, Walt Disney World Resort Hotel front
desk or concierge or by calling 407-WDW-DINE. Guests may also make and
cancel reservations by visiting www.DisneyWorld.com/Dining.

In addition, pre-paid locations will continue to retain the full,
pre-paid amount if Guests are unable to honor the reservation and are
unable to cancel the reservation one day in advance. Special dining
events and packages such as Fantasmic! packages, New Year?s Eve dinners,
Victoria & Albert?s reservations may have different cancellation
requirements.

We truly regret your disappointment with the adjustments made to our
dining cancellation policy and assure you that your remarks have been
shared with the appropriate individuals. Our Guests' impressions are
very important to us, and we appreciate the time you took to share your
thoughts.

Sincerely,

S***** O*****
Guest Services
Walt Disney World Resort
407-***-****


This is completely non-responsive to your issue with the window being 24 hours (or whatever it is).

I recently wrote to them complaining about how they were handling the princess line at the hard ticketed parties, allowing day guests in line up until 7, allowing them to see party characters without having purchased a ticket. I got back a stock email with basic party information. Not one word about my real issue.
 














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