New car depreciation question

[tvguy]

Only GM, other than Tesla and Rivian who never supported it.

All the other manufacturers have said they have no plans to remove or limit CarPlay or Android Auto.

I think VW too, or maybe just their EVs. My son has been complaining that whatever software VW preloads on their ID4s is slow and full of bugs. He worked in computer IT and has explored hacking into the system to put Android Auto in.

 

[RivShore]

I think VW too, or maybe just their EVs. My son has been complaining that whatever software VW preloads on their ID4s is slow and full of bugs. He worked in computer IT and has explored hacking into the system to put Android Auto in.

I thought about adding it to our older lexus and there were actually aftermarket integration modules available on ebay, never got around to actually trying one though.

 

[reddog21]

I think VW too, or maybe just their EVs. My son has been complaining that whatever software VW preloads on their ID4s is slow and full of bugs. He worked in computer IT and has explored hacking into the system to put Android Auto in.

Depending on the year sub 2024(I think) it's been well documents how low it was due to the lack of CPU power and there are hacks out there to trim the apps to gain cpu/ram back to. 2024+ got an upgraded CPU and ram so it's supposed to be better/

They still have CarPlay and don't plan on stopping it. I just got back from a car show and asked around — only GM was a firm no. However, they confirmed their software will be Android-based and should support the same apps available in the Play Store, though it’ll obviously be a subset like it is now. Apple Music will be supported, but not Apple Maps and probably not Apple Home, which has more to do with Apple than GM.

 

[tvguy]

Depending on the year sub 2024(I think) it's been well documents how low it was due to the lack of CPU power and there are hacks out there to trim the apps to gain cpu/ram back to. 2024+ got an upgraded CPU and ram so it's supposed to be better/

They still have CarPlay and don't plan on stopping it. I just got back from a car show and asked around — only GM was a firm no. However, they confirmed their software will be Android-based and should support the same apps available in the Play Store, though it’ll obviously be a subset like it is now. Apple Music will be supported, but not Apple Maps and probably not Apple Home, which has more to do with Apple than GM.

Its a 2021

 

[smwisc]

We do something similar, buy a new reliable car and hold 10 to 15 years, getting rid of it once repair and mantinance costs start climbing. I have always figured everything nets out the same vs buying say a used 3 year old car, which will need to be gotten rid of 3 years sooner. Plus with a new purchase, your also getting the latest safety and tech features (for instance, I can't live without wireless CarPlay after getting it on our new 2024 purchase).

But see, this is where depreciation does matter - it DOESN'T net out the same, because the first three years are the most expensive. It doesn't matter much if you buy a car that doesn't depreciate much, but if you buy a 2-3 year old used car that has depreciated significantly, you save enough money upfront that your per-year cost is lower even if you end up selling sooner. Granted, keeping a car for 15 years is likely to be pretty cost effective no matter whether you buy new or used; the difference matters more if you only keep for 10 years. (and I also am now fully committed to Android Auto, and heated seats, and I don't want to ever buy a vehicle without either!)

 

[lilmc]

I rarely sell cars because I tend to run them into the ground and drive them until they’re fully dead. For me the depreciation of a new car isn’t about when it’s going to be sold (ie how long I would hold onto it), but the fact that you can buy the car so much cheaper if you let someone else take the hit on the premium of purchasing a new car.

 

[tvguy]

I also am now fully committed to Android Auto, and heated seats, and I don't want to ever buy a vehicle without either!)

LOL. Heated seats are a running joke in my family. Rented a car on a family vacation and they came on and we could not figure out how to turn them off. Unfortunately we were in Phoenix and it was 105 degrees. To this day my adult children still shout out "My #%^^%#%^% is on fire!"

 

[barkley]

LOL. Heated seats are a running joke in my family. Rented a car on a family vacation and they came on and we could not figure out how to turn them off. Unfortunately we were in Phoenix and it was 105 degrees. To this day my adult children still shout out "My #%^^%#%^% is on fire!"

I honestly think someone considering a car purchase does well to rent one to get a feel for weather for the vehicle. a test drive gives no insight to actually driving around in traffic/decent distance on a freeway, loading items in and out of trunk/storage area, using/adapting to different bells and whistles. when the kids were young and we traveled more we got in the habit of renting cars we had mentally considered for future purchases-very insightful.

 

[tvguy]

I honestly think someone considering a car purchase does well to rent one to get a feel for weather for the vehicle. a test drive gives no insight to actually driving around in traffic/decent distance on a freeway, loading items in and out of trunk/storage area, using/adapting to different bells and whistles. when the kids were young and we traveled more we got in the habit of renting cars we had mentally considered for future purchases-very insightful.

I agree. My wife and I have done that, but not always. We did not do that with our last two purchases and to be honest, our 2020 Camry probably has the least comfortable seats for long drives of any car we have ever owned. But nothing that a cushion did not fix.
Actually, we actually took it a step further and purchased former rental cars from Hertz three times. In 2007, 2008 and our daughter did in 2017. HOWEVER that was when Hertz retired their cars before 30,000 miles, so they were still under factory warranty. She decided on a Ford Fusion based on the one we rented for a week on vacation.