new bush add

[goudaman40]

here is a link to the new Bush add that will air until Election day. I thought y'all might be interested, because it may not air in your area if you aren't in a swing state.

Bush add

 

[Dan Murphy]

Thanks much for that. Here in IL, we have almost no ads, from either candidate. I recall posting the picture of that incident some time back, I think it, and the story says a lot about the man, and in addition to all the political rhetoric we hear from both sides, a lot of the vote determination for me is 'the person', the human being behind the face. Thanks.


http://www.washingtondispatch.com/opinion/article_9003.shtml

 

[shortbun]

I've seen the ad several times. It portrays George Bush as
a faith healer. It appeals to those who believe in that kind
of thing. I'm sorry this young woman and so many children
lost their parents/brothers/sisters/grandparents/aunts/uncles
and friends. Anyone with a shred of human decency would
have wanted to comfort this girl. For her father to parade her
as healed by George Bush is IMHO horrible.
Sorry-I don't buy it and I'd tell her father to his face.


What does it say about George Bush, Dan? I think it's
awful that they are using this as a politcal ad. It has nothing
to do with running the United States. How many others
have comforted her including her father? Should we elect them
next? We are all being bushwacked by this ad. Where was
the comfort for the woman who's son was killed in Iraq and wanted to talk to Laura Bush at the politcal event? Where is
the comfort for the children who have nothing to eat-and I see
them everyday when they get on my bus. Where is the comfort
for the children with no heat? Perhaps Mr. Bush can travel around
the country solving people's problems with a hug. We'll make
him the "SUPREME HIGH HUGGER", something that would suit
his real abilities.

 

[Microcell]

Thanks for posting the article Dan! It shows exactly why I want to vote for our president! I am not very religious in an organized way, but boy the spin some can put on a genuine moment between a dad reaching out to somebody's daughter. I looked at it from a secular point of view as well, but did not see a conspiracy there.

Those who are used to the likes of Clinton posturing for every camera moment must not be able to see a genuine person anymore. I saw a man who was visibly moved by a little girl in pain. He wanted to protect her. I want that man for my president. He won't hug a little girl like that and then ask pollsters or the UN if it was okay.

 

[cardaway]

What is sadder? The ad, or the target audience?

 

[shortbun]

Originally posted by Microcell
Thanks for posting the article Dan! It shows exactly why I want to vote for our president! I am not very religious in an organized way, but boy the spin some can put on a genuine moment between a dad reaching out to somebody's daughter. I looked at it from a secular point of view as well, but did not see a conspiracy there.

Those who are used to the likes of Clinton posturing for every camera moment must not be able to see a genuine person anymore. I saw a man who was visibly moved by a little girl in pain. He wanted to protect her. I want that man for my president. He won't hug a little girl like that and then ask pollsters or the UN if it was okay.

Hey the moment was genuine. Using it for politcal gain cancels
any good it had. The only good deed is one left unclaimed.
Ya hug a little girl in pain and then use it to get elected president,
low as you can go. Let's LIMBO!!!!!

 

[Microcell]

Originally posted by shortbun

Where was
the comfort for the woman who's son was killed in Iraq and wanted to talk to Laura Bush at the politcal event? Where is
the comfort for the children who have nothing to eat-and I see
them everyday when they get on my bus. Where is the comfort
for the children with no heat?

Where was the lady using appropriate means to sit down and have open discourse. She ambushed our first lady, and had no intent to have a positive or meaningful conversation. Lets have useful arguments here.

What is John Kerry going to do to give kids food or heat? He wants to tax the rich, who will send more jobs overseas to recoup their losses and thus weaken our economy and still there will be no jobs for their parents, there could even be less. In a country this large we have very few in poverty. None should be I agree. I just do not think that our national 5% unemployment rate could get any lower, no matter who is in office. That is very low, one of the lowest in the world!!!!

 

[beattyfamily]

Thanks for posting it as I definitely would not have seen it up here in MA.

 

[Microcell]

Originally posted by shortbun
Hey the moment was genuine. Using it for politcal gain cancels
any good it had. The only good deed is one left unclaimed.
Ya hug a little girl in pain and then use it to get elected president,
low as you can go. Let's LIMBO!!!!!

Who was that that used the vice president's daughter in an exploitive manner? Twice?? I am sure the Bush camp at least asked that father to use that picture in the ad. If he does not see it as exploitation then why should you?

 

[Jennifer S]

It gets so tiring - all the Bush bashing. I don't think there is anything we can post here (pro Bush) that some (not all) liberals will not bash. He could take the shirt off his back and give it to someone that needs it and the liberals would say - "it's only for political gain". We will never change their minds.

What gets me is why do they bother to read and participate in the threads that support Bush. I immediatly stop reading the Pro Kerry threads because nothing you say can change my mind. They just make me mad. So instead of saying something nasty I just chose to ignore it.

I loved the two seperate threads - one for Bush and one for Kerry. I honestly read only the first page of the Kerry one and never went back to it.

I once tried to differ in a nice way and just got slammed. I learned my leason.

 

[caitycaity]

Anyone with a shred of human decency would
have wanted to comfort this girl. For her father to parade her
as healed by George Bush is IMHO horrible.
Sorry-I don't buy it and I'd tell her father to his face.


What does it say about George Bush, Dan? I think it's
awful that they are using this as a politcal ad. It has nothing
to do with running the United States.

ITA.



jennifer s, i'd love for you to explain how what i just quoted is a bush bash.

and it's not like bush is the only candidate that gets bashed around here either.

 

[caitycaity]

I am sure the Bush camp at least asked that father to use that picture in the ad. If he does not see it as exploitation then why should you?

how about asking the girl instead of the dad?

likewise, how about asking mary cheney. no one knows if mary cheney was offended or not.

 

[Galahad]

It portrays George Bush as a faith healer

I'm sorry, but this is pure B.S. It does no such thing.

President Bush is not the first politician who's supporters want us to believe he feels our pain.

 

[caitycaity]

President Bush is not the first politician who's supporters want us to believe he feels our pain.

don't you think feeling and healing are two different things?

 

[Jennifer S]

CaityCaity - you were not one that comes to mind when I wrote that. If you read what I wrote again I said - some - not all.
I don't know why you though I was talking about you.

 

[caitycaity]

jennifer s - you are right you did say some not all. i was not reading carefully. i apologize.

i just get defensive when people claim that bush bashing happens all the time and kerry bashing is rare. i just don't think that's true. i think there are an equal number of bashers on both sides.

 

[Galahad]

Originally posted by caitycaity
don't you think feeling and healing are two different things?

The word "heal" is not even in the add. I don't believe in "faith healing". I don't see ANY appeal to it in this add. I did, however, see some flavor of in the Senator Edwards speech last week.

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by caitycaity
how about asking the girl instead of the dad?

Maybe they asked the girl too?? After all she and her father and a close friend who was there when the picture was taken are all in the ad I just saw. I think if any of them had a problem with it, they would not have made that video.

 

[Jennifer S]

Caitycaity - I agree there is a lot of bashing on both sides but it's the name calling that gets me. I know some have said the President doesn't just get respect because he's the President but I was raised to respect elders ( teachers, doctors, etc) and it gets under my skin when instead of intelligent debate some on the Dis just call names.

I honestly don't think Kerry gets called names like idiot, etc. as much as Bush does.

I respect your difference of opinion and I think you state yourself well. I was not thinking of you at all.

 

[disney4us2002]

How about asking the girl? Huh? I watched the ad but didn't read the article. Presumably since the girl is speaking on camera, she is aware it is for a commercial.

I didn't think the commercial made Bush look like a faith healer. I thought he acted with compassion and kindness. I think your partisanship is showing if you think GWB is trying to act like a faith healer. After all, it is Edwards who is promoting that Kerry will make the infirm rise and walk again. Give me a break!

If the father believes that Bush 'healed' or gave comfort to his daughter why would you want to tell him to his face it's horrible? I don't understand the belittling. It's for them to decide if they're comforted, not you or me or anyone else.

I think the ad speaks to the genuineness of Bush. It's about his character. He is a man of the people. I agree that anyone with decency would want to show compassion but not everyone would. I get it. I've heard it repeatedly from the left. It is more important to some that a president can speak well. I'll take the doer; you can have the talker.