Curious if there have been any updates to this?
When I attended a Marriott Vacation Club presentation in early 2017, the salesperson said (take this with a large grain of salt) that MVC was planning to add timeshares to the Swan/Dolphin. I have no idea if this could ever happen, considering the DVC competition, but just something that I remembered.
I personally would love a St. Regis here!
I'm an avid Swolphin fan. I won't use ME, ever. It's gross.
What? I'm not sure the last time you used it then, but it's *amazing.* It's one of those nice coaches with a restroom in the back and TV monitors throughout. They play Disney cartoons, including the new ones with Mickey & Minnie as well as the classics. My kids were in stitches over some classic they played of Chip & Dale bugging Donald Duck. It was the nicest, most stress-free way of leaving the airport. Seriously, we don't even need to get our suitcases, and kids love that first time they get to scan their MagicBands!
What? I'm not sure the last time you used it then, but it's *amazing.* It's one of those nice coaches with a restroom in the back and TV monitors throughout. They play Disney cartoons, including the new ones with Mickey & Minnie as well as the classics. My kids were in stitches over some classic they played of Chip & Dale bugging Donald Duck. It was the nicest, most stress-free way of leaving the airport. Seriously, we don't even need to get our suitcases, and kids love that first time they get to scan their MagicBands!
And that's awesome for you...the long bus ride makes me literally ill, so it's not something I'm going to do again. And I have to wait 0 minutes for an Uber/cab, and they'll stop for me at a liquor/grocery store I was just spelling out my perspective, and I'm NOT riding a bus for that long as that slight swaying makes me so darn sick. The idea of using a bus powder room is bad enough; I never want to do it in actuality. Lots of people love it; but there are some people like me that don't. It doesn't feature in my idea of a vacation, so it doesn't feature into my cost evaluation either.
No work to the site was ever done other than height test balloon and survey markers.OK - I read most of the thread (the most off topic thread I ever read - surprised it didn't get shut off - and to think I got reprimanded by a mod for making a light hearted (not offensive at all!) comment once - because the joke was not pertinent to the thread topic.
Anyway - staying on topic - I guess I simply missed it. Drive by the site every day coming into the Dolphin. Never noticed anything. Not very far along I guess. The article I guess was in Feb of this year (side note - why do SO many web articles pages fail to put a date anywhere??)
The comment section there is indicative of where we've come in "discourse". The hotel is clearly fits better outside of WDW than inside - but mentioning that got the person criticized by people who really missed the point.
People don't like the Swan and Dolphin for a similar reason, and I truly understand that. To me, their location and price that makes up for that. This new (relatively small) hotel is in fact nothing special looking. But I suspect that kept the cost down. Still, why only 350 rooms?
In fact, why a hotel there at all? I really wonder if the whole idea is on hold or cancelled already.
OK - I read most of the thread (the most off topic thread I ever read - surprised it didn't get shut off - and to think I got reprimanded by a mod for making a light hearted (not offensive at all!) comment once - because the joke was not pertinent to the thread topic.
Anyway - staying on topic - I guess I simply missed it. Drive by the site every day coming into the Dolphin. Never noticed anything. Not very far along I guess. The article I guess was in Feb of this year (side note - why do SO many web articles pages fail to put a date anywhere??)
The comment section there is indicative of where we've come in "discourse". The hotel is clearly fits better outside of WDW than inside - but mentioning that got the person criticized by people who really missed the point.
People don't like the Swan and Dolphin for a similar reason, and I truly understand that. To me, their location and price that makes up for that. This new (relatively small) hotel is in fact nothing special looking. But I suspect that kept the cost down. Still, why only 350 rooms?
In fact, why a hotel there at all? I really wonder if the whole idea is on hold or cancelled already.
...third party hotel corporation and you have the rights to build on Disney property...
I don’t believe there is any sort of expiration on that property.I guess I was unaware there were third parties with rights to build in the "World". I thought Starwood (or whoever they are these days corporately) was the anomaly. And quite some time ago I thought I read that the deal expired at some point with Disney having the right to take it over. Not sure that was accurate at all - or perhaps it's been extended.
Interesting though that they are still "outsourcing" their hotel space to some extent. I realize now I've read there are other brands that have already built excluding "hotel row" (though I don't recall the names and locations - I know it's relatively recent.)
It is a 99 year lease with Tishman and MetLife.I don’t believe there is any sort of expiration on that property.
Ok then we still have a while to go yet.It is a 99 year lease with Tishman and MetLife.
And quite some time ago I thought I read that the deal expired at some point with Disney having the right to take it over. Not sure that was accurate at all - or perhaps it's been extended.
Works for this old guy and my adult kids. We love the Swan/Dolphin complex. Especially the price (relatively cheap) and location.Whichever it is, they're good until at least the year 2084