"Needs" versus "Wants"

This country needs a crash course on this subject! A girl in my office is complaining how she can't afford to get her kids their shots and will have to go to the free clinic. This was in the same breath that she was saying how she just bought the new Iphone that she "needed" since her old cell phone was outdated!


I SOOO agree with you. A very dear friend complains frequently that she has no money....in her Coach handbag. Thankfully I am able to reach into my Target handbag and hand her a few bucks. It's getting old, though.
 
I WANT to win the lotto so I can pay off my mortgage and go live in a DVC villa for the winter.

I NEED to get my biscuit out of bed in the morning to go to work so I can pay the mortgage :lmao:
 
Our parents get so disgusted when my sister complains that they have trouble making their house payment when they have DirectTV, cellphones for the kids, TomTom in their cars, Wii, etc. It is a very different generation - my aunts tell me stories how they had to wear their sister's hand -me- down shoes and clothes that were either 2 sizes too big or 2 sizes too small. My dad remembers eating catsup or mayonaisse sandwiches, and yet they never felt they were poor. And this was not during the depression - this was in the 50's! And yet how we all whine and complain nowadays!
 
DH and I recently did this as an exercise while figuring out our budget. The only need we have (other than paying a $122 dentists bill) is to pay off our credit card debt. At this point, we are both so sick of being in debt, our want is also to pay off our debt. Feels so good to be on track and on the same page !
 

I want to spend more time just hanging out with my son. I need to work as many hours as possible to have a house in which to hang out with him ;)

I want to go to WDW next winter. I need to pay off a lot of bills before then.

All told - the wants are way greater than the needs. It's just a matter of convincing myself to focus on the needs and not the wants.
 
I NEED to get out of debt. I NEED to be a better provider and a better budgetor.

I WANT absolutely nothing...
 
It is a very different generation - my aunts tell me stories how they had to wear their sister's hand -me- down shoes and clothes that were either 2 sizes too big or 2 sizes too small.

Very true! When I was a kid (also in the '70's, not the depression), I wore my sister's hand me downs. This is not that long ago (or I'm just fooling myself, lol). Some time in the last 30 years, people's attitudes really changed about what was required in a household and we really became a disposable consumer goods society.
 
we really became a disposable consumer goods society.

The other night I was sitting and mending an article of clothing and finally had to admit that it was so worn out that no amount of mending would give it any more life. I regretfully had to dispose of it.

When was the last time most people did any mending? or darned socks? or took shoes to the cobbler? When I was in university I had one pair of boots and I remember taking them to the cobbler yet again, and him telling me that there was nothing left to 'cobble'. I begged him to try and make them last out the last few weeks of winter.

In Germany we still have the 'invisible menders' and the 'ladder' places - they repair a ladder in your stocking (or 'run in your nylons') for a small amount. Wool or cotton tights are expensive but last a long time, and are often relatively high priced compared to nylons, especially if purchased in a tights store. The mending place will pick up the dropped stitch and repair the run.
 
The other night I was sitting and mending an article of clothing and finally had to admit that it was so worn out that no amount of mending would give it any more life. I regretfully had to dispose of it.

When was the last time most people did any mending? or darned socks? or took shoes to the cobbler? When I was in university I had one pair of boots and I remember taking them to the cobbler yet again, and him telling me that there was nothing left to 'cobble'. I begged him to try and make them last out the last few weeks of winter.

In Germany we still have the 'invisible menders' and the 'ladder' places - they repair a ladder in your stocking (or 'run in your nylons') for a small amount. Wool or cotton tights are expensive but last a long time, and are often relatively high priced compared to nylons, especially if purchased in a tights store. The mending place will pick up the dropped stitch and repair the run.

This is interesting...I've never heard of anyone who would repair nylons! I can't tell you how many times I would pull out a brand new, never worn pair of nylons and have them catch as I was putting them on, resulting in plenty of ^%&*@#@ on my part :rotfl: Wish we had something like this in the States.

I will tell you that depending on the pair of shoes, DH and I will still go to get the heel or sole reinforced or replaced. For a cheap pair of shoes, it's sometimes not worth it (as for the cost of the repair we could almost buy new). Hence, how we became a disposable society. But especially when I was in my 20's and money was tight, if I bought a new pair of shoes, I actually took them to have a sole added on before I even wore them for the first time. It was worth it, though as I am a bit of a shoe snob and will tend to pay more for a good pair of shoes (I find it is worth it in saving myself on blisters and aches and pains).

As far as mending, I have to admit that I can't even sew. I never picked up this skill. On the other hand, I feel I have enough skills to compensate. I am a very good cook (ask my DH, who prefers to eat at home). Save lots of money by eating home mostly (and I bring my breakfast and lunch to work on most days). I have a coffee machine in my office rather than spending money to buy a cup (or three) each day. And, of course, there is my skill at earning a very decent paycheck. It really is all about choices. I chose to hone my professional skills and earn a little more, rather than learn how to sew and spend less in this one regard.

On the other hand, I am a real bargain hunter. When it comes to clothing, I very, very rarely pay retail. My summer/fall work wardrobe this year cost me $93 (thanks to a 50% off ticket price sale paired with a 40% off the sum coupon). If I do pay retail, it is because I am desperate (like the time a pair of pants (probably a bit threadbare) I was wearing at work suddenly developed a (rather large) hole in a most inconvenient spot :eek: ) or because it is a truly unique item. So I don't sew, but I'm willing to bet I spend quite a bit less on my work wardrobe than many women (I work in New York City where people are very fashion conscious).

I take the bus to work instead of taking my car. Admittedly, I started doing this to save myself the aggravation, but it actually costs me only half the amount as it did to drive. At this point in time, taking the bus is quite a bit less than half the cost of driving as gas prices have increased and so have tolls :scared1:

Interestingly, many of these things that save money are also good for the environment :woohoo:

Unfortunately it hasn't been easy to convince DH to bring lunch to work. He works different hours than I do and hates carrying tupperware. Eh, I'll just worry about what I can control (me) and won't sweat what I can't (him).
 
When was the last time most people did any mending? or darned socks? or took shoes to the cobbler? When I was in university I had one pair of boots and I remember taking them to the cobbler yet again, and him telling me that there was nothing left to 'cobble'. I begged him to try and make them last out the last few weeks of winter.

Two days ago. I like to do my mending in the slow moments whilst traveling -- that forces me to do it, because if I don't I end up short of sufficient clothing for the trip. I also go to the "shoe-man" all the time, and have my luggage repaired, too, if the problem is too much for me to mend myself (I do my own zipper pull replacements - easy/peasy, that one.) As a general rule I don't darn socks -- we don't wear wool socks and by the time holes appear the issue isn't a simple hole but too much general wear; you can't really darn a thin spot in a cotton or polyester sock. (I will re-sew a sock that tears along the toe seam, however.) I *do* darn sweaters, unless they have been the victims of a full-on frontal moth assault, in which case it's usually hopeless.

In Germany we still have the 'invisible menders' and the 'ladder' places - they repair a ladder in your stocking (or 'run in your nylons') for a small amount. Wool or cotton tights are expensive but last a long time, and are often relatively high priced compared to nylons, especially if purchased in a tights store. The mending place will pick up the dropped stitch and repair the run.

Oh, what I wouldn't give for a service like that -- I've never seen such a thing. Of course, I wouldn't be using it for myself, but it would be great for DD's tights.

Oh, PS: For anyone who wears nylons on a regular basis, the "freezing" trick really does work. I store my newly-purchased pairs in the freezer until I wish to wear them. A chemical engineer I know explained to me that freezing strengthens the fibers, resulting in less chance of a run developing in the first place.
 
As a 70s baby, I totally agree with the PP who commented on wearing hand-me-downs. Mine came from my godparent's daughter, right up until I was taller than her (and she is almost 12 years older than me!) My stepdaughter absolutely refuses to have her daughter wear "other people's junk". My 15 niece wears hand-me-downs when she can.

I told my DS...as his parent, my responsiblity is to make sure he has appropriate clothes to wear to school. Not necessarily the coolest thing at Abercrombie or the $100 sneakers or the $75 jeans (can't even tell you the last time I spent $75 at any one time shopping)...just clothes that will allow him to go to school and learn. He doesn't really appreciate that logic.
 
This is interesting...I've never heard of anyone who would repair nylons! I can't tell you how many times I would pull out a brand new, never worn pair of nylons and have them catch as I was putting them on, resulting in plenty of ^%&*@#@ on my part :rotfl: Wish we had something like this in the States.

I know that I am wandering waaay off topic, but the art of 'Repassieren' was somewhat of a dying handcraft in the mid 1970's and early 1980's, as the cost of stockings came way down and women could afford several pairs. Then in the late 1980's hoisery became a fashion trend (look at the Wolford site, where it is easy to pay 40 Euros for one pair) and it started to come back as people didn't want to dispose of expensive tights.

The local hoisery shop would offer the service, for a fee per run (I can't remember what I used to pay in DM but I paid a Schilling a run in Austria when I had my tights repaired there). Invisible menders may offer the service now, or some hoisery shops, and people will still mail in their items for repair if there is no local shop. I wore the same two pairs of French tights all last winter and they are still in perfect shape; I hope to wear them through one more winter at least.

Then there was the button shop, which sold - buttons. Because people actually sewed on missing buttons, and if they lost one, they went to the button shop to find a replacement. I have a large glass jar filled with buttons some dating back to pre-WWII and many from East Germany, plus several horn and metal ones from Trachten clothing. I still use the button jar if I cannot find a replacement button, and am about the fourth generation in my family to be using those buttons.

I cannot believe the tales about children refusing wearing hand-me-downs; I was the youngest and smallest and we didn't just hand down within the family but within the circle of friends as well, so sometimes by the time things got to me they were well-loved. But I can't imagine saying that I wouldn't wear them or play with them!

And by the way, I am not that old, so these memories are fairly recent. I think that coming from adversity or a poor society actually makes one more resourceful, and am grateful that I have learned mending skills and how to make items last. I am still ashamed at how much stuff I own, and cannot claim to be virtuous when it comes to avoiding waste, but I try my best to be thrifty when I can.
 


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