Needing some support here!

[Crankyshank]

You are doing the same thing here that you did in the other thread. Your tone is very argumentative and aggressive. Even if that's not you meant to be taken, it is how you are coming across.
It's not a matter of some people being allowed opinions and not others. You're not allowing people dissenting opinions either.

 

[disykat]

The other thing is that as a newer poster or someone that isn't part of a group on here you will not get the kind of support others get. Although I agree with others that you got carried away on the AR thread (I follwed the link, but only read one of your posts because I realized I taped it this week and haven't watched it yet), I also agree with you that others can get every bit as vehement and get supported. It is very big right now to make fun of anyone with what might be considered to be conservative viewpoints.

If you say anything that certain groups consider to be "judgemental", you are fair game from those that don't seem to realize that every opinion is by nature judgemental.

 

[luvflorida]

Besides who cares? Don't let things get to you. No one can please everyone all the time and who wants to? Just be your honest opinionated self and don't give it a second thought.

This is excellent advice. It has taken me a long time to learn to not take things so personally. Sometimes you just need to step back and take a break from the DIS.

I've become very good at mentally ignoring some things here. I've also learned that it's worth it to visit here and 'talk' to most of the posters.

 

[Livie's Mommy]

You are doing the same thing here that you did in the other thread. Your tone is very argumentative and aggressive. Even if that's not you meant to be taken, it is how you are coming across.
It's not a matter of some people being allowed opinions and not others. You're not allowing people dissenting opinions either.

But that is what I don't understand. Nothing I have typed her was said belligerently, but youare all saying I am bein argumentative. I have even told you the tone I am using as I write, and it still sounds agruementative to you. Is it my picture? Do I need to put one of me smiing bigger or something? I just can't win here.

 

[Crankyshank]

Your picture has nothing to do with it. It's your tone and the fact you are arguing with every response.
I'm not interested in arguing with you. You seem to want to either get the last word in or argue your point to the death. You asked for advice and it was given. The #1 lesson of all to learn on the DIS is that if you want advice, you're going to get it and you probably won't like all of the answers. You can smile graciously and accept it for what it is or you can not take it.

 

[Pooh Girl 71]

Your tone comes across as argumentative. You also seem to not want to let anything go.

 

[ziggystardust]

I have to agree with Crankyshank. I avoided really posting on the AR thread but I have to say I was glued to it b/c of your arguementative attitude.

That being said, have your opinions but let people have theirs. No one has to explain to you (or anyone) why they like or dislike someone.

And know that when religion is involved people have their own beliefs which might differ from yours. Like the poster who said she was Catholic, and that affected her opinion. You asked her to explain herself, she did, and you jumped all over her.

Also, I think you learned the hard way that when typing you loose a lot of the emotion that you would normally have when speaking. You loose the restraint and nobody can see when you are being lighthearted or angry. Take that into account when you are typing. Please feel free to state your opinion, but know that people will easily misread it b/c they are missing what would be part of a normal conversation.

Don't let this discourage you from posting, but just take everything into consideration, after all, you asked.

 

[Keggy]

I have to agree with Crankyshank. I avoided really posting on the AR thread but I have to say I was glued to it b/c of your arguementative attitude.

That being said, have your opinions but let people have theirs. No one has to explain to you (or anyone) why they like or dislike someone.

And know that when religion is involved people have their own beliefs which might differ from yours. Like the poster who said she was Catholic, and that affected her opinion. You asked her to explain herself, she did, and you jumped all over her.

Also, I think you learned the hard way that when typing you loose a lot of the emotion that you would normally have when speaking. You loose the restraint and nobody can see when you are being lighthearted or angry. Take that into account when you are typing. Please feel free to state your opinion, but know that people will easily misread it b/c they are missing what would be part of a normal conversation.

Don't let this discourage you from posting, but just take everything into consideration, after all, you asked.

I just wanted to say that this was a great post...

Kelly

 

[dcgrumpy]

Thanks a lot for the link tiggersmom, now I don't have to watch last nights AR

 

[kdibattista]

I am one of those folks who need justification when others are hated to strongly and especially when labels like "hypocrite" and "sore losers" are put on people. No one has been able to back up their claims with any hard evidence (except last nights fiasco, which doesn't explain why the Weavers have been so disliked all along). It is okay to not like the Weavers, but at least be honest with and justify your reasons. So they annoy you, fine. You think the mom is flighty, fine. The kids complain all the time, fine. I respect all of those reasons. But if you label people and make generalizations about people, you have to back them up!!

Ok... I was not going to post on this thread... I'm still not sure I should but I just wanted to give you some insight. I'm not judging you at all... I'm sure you are a wonderful person but as an example, take the above quote.

Most people come to the DIS to relax, chill out and enjoy conversing with others. If I make a statement that I don't like something, I don't feel the need to justify that to anyone or back it up with "hard evidence" and when someone says I do, I would tend to think of them as a bit.... aggressive.

Again, nothing personal... I hope you stick around to see that we are a bunch of good people who just want to goof around.

 

[disney4us2002]

The other thing is that as a newer poster or someone that isn't part of a group on here you will not get the kind of support others get. Although I agree with others that you got carried away on the AR thread (I follwed the link, but only read one of your posts because I realized I taped it this week and haven't watched it yet), I also agree with you that others can get every bit as vehement and get supported. It is very big right now to make fun of anyone with what might be considered to be conservative viewpoints.

If you say anything that certain groups consider to be "judgemental", you are fair game from those that don't seem to realize that every opinion is by nature judgemental.

Gotta send out a big YEAH! on this one disykat. I don't care for reality tv for the most part so I have zero opinion on AR or that thread. I will say that if you're going to hang out on the Community Board you will begin to see who aligns with whom. There are several posters who could say nearly anything and their groupies will back them up all the way. What you need are some of your own groupies. Give it time and remember to type, type, type and backspace and erase it all, close your browser and come back later.

 

[coolmom99]

From my perspective, you don't know when to quit. You just want to debate the same point over and over and over. I was reading the other thread, too, and it was very frustrating. Now you come here and pretend to be a victim. Too much drama.

 

[momof2inPA]

It is very big right now to make fun of anyone with what might be considered to be conservative viewpoints.

I haven't noticed that. The attacks come evenly from both sides.

For the OP, my husband and I actually commented during the show that stuff must have gone on behind the scenes to make the other teams dislike the Weavers so much, especially in light of their recent loss. I made some more comments on the other thread if you care to look and discuss with me, calmly. I'm one of the nicer posters.

 

[disykat]

I haven't noticed that. The attacks come evenly from both sides.
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I actually disagree. While the history of the community board has been to fight conservative against liberal with attacks on both sides, there is a huge thing right now about taking conservative viewpoints and turning them into a joke. I understand disagreement and think it is fine - however, I have a huge problem with all the threads that are turning into just making fun of people.

I would love to be able to ignore these threads, but unfortunately most threads tend to degenerate to that after I'm already involved and it's hard to let go. It bothers me that others aren't bothered by this as well - regardless of their viewpoints. I'm the type who will defend someone with a totally opposite viewpoint than mine - if I think they aren't being given a fair say.

 

[Aimeedyan]

From my perspective, you don't know when to quit. You just want to debate the same point over and over and over. I was reading the other thread, too, and it was very frustrating. Now you come here and pretend to be a victim. Too much drama.

And in the end, it's just the internet! There is no reason to get upset by what a faceless stranger says to you on a message board. You don't know anyone here and they don't know you. Stick around awhile and continue to put yourself out there and you'll hear it all but you either have to grow thick skin and go on or opt to not put yourself out there for others to judge. Or leave the board altogether, of course. (which I hope you don't decide to do, btw!)

 

[momof2inPA]

I haven't noticed that. Although, the conservatives in power have given people a lot to poke fun at lately.

 

[Planogirl]

It's all a matter of perception I guess. I always felt that it was the Liberals who were being slammed here but I bet that it's really both sides.

But I don't see what that has to do with the OP. Back to that, no one has to justify their opinions here. They simply have them and I think that when someone basically says "I disagree and think that you have to tell me why you think like that", it's a lot different than offering a dissenting viewpoint.

I mean, who really cares WHY someone feels differently in the context of a fluffy post?

 

[Beth76]

I was one arguing with you on the AR thread. Why? Because I don't like the Weavers. They are on television and psuedo-celebrities. They put themselves out there for the world to judge. People may not like that, but when you put yourself in the public eye, that's what happens. I don't need any reason not to like them. I may not like someone because their voice irritates me. I may not like someone because of one little thing they said one time. I'm not making REAL LIFE judgements about these people because they are not real life to me. They are television. And I do have every right to not like the Weavers because they pray over every little thing. They have the right to do that, and I support that right. But, it doesn't mean I have to like listening to it.

Just as television is not real life, neither is the DIS. It's psuedo-reality. If you're going to get upset about what strangers say to you on a message board, then maybe you don't belong here. If you can say "Hey, they have their opinion, I don't like it, but who cares" then you'll fit right in.

 

[Disney Doll]

I'd chill a bit and no get so worked up over an Internet BB.

When someone is being really ridiculous in a post, I usually just go to a different post.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

I posted on the Amazing Race thread, but didn't carefully read through all the posts. Turned into a thread about Christians, which I didn't care to debate. It did seem to be getting nasty and I don't just think from you. I'm not going to go analyze it right now, but it seems that it was one of those threads that the more the points were argued, the more and more heated it became.

Kind of like the "eating in grocery store" thread, but at least some humor was injected into that thread.

Try not to take it personally, though. Certain topics really get people going and we all have our hot buttons. Well, everyone except me...