Need serious advice (long_)

Now, if you truly truly loved the man like you say you do, money would not be an issue, so that's where the doubt comes in.
Sorry but this is WRONG. I truly loved my 2nd husband and wanted it to all work but after 3-4 years of him not contributing financially in any significant way to the marriage, I had had enough. One mule pulling the cart alone gets mighty damned tired. As my friend says "I can be poor and miserable without having to drag you behind me".
 
Didn't read thru all the posts but my first reaction was do not get married.

Not sure if anyone else brought this up but if you got married then got divorced you could end up paying HIM support. If you are the financial supporter in the relationship the courts could demand that you pay him support. It happened to my aunt since she was working and my unlce was "retired". Even though he was cheating on her!!!

I understand that no one goes into a marriage thinking what wil happen if we get divorced but if there are so many concerns prior to the marriage these are things that you should think about. Just be very cafeful about what you get yourself into. A lot of people will say If you love someone things will work out yadayada yada. But remember you can fall in love with the wrong person!!! Sometimes you fall in love with who you WANT them to be or who you think they COULD be but not really who they ARE

Wishing you all the best and I hope that things work out the best for you





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I am sick right now. My heart feels numb. I need to do what is best for me and my future though. But I really do not see how I can live without him either. I know this post probably makes it sound like I want to leave but I want to try and do whatever I can (stopping short at giving up EVERYTHING ELSE) to make it work. I would be miserable living without him but I would be equally miserable wasting the rest of my relatively young years living in dire poverty because of his house.

Please help.

I think you know your answer.

I encourge you to think about this in terms of what is best for your FI. And that is not necessarily you marrying him so he is in a better financial position. In the scheme of things this is temporary. The effect of the choices you and your FI make regarding each other in handling this difficulty will go on and on. Take it from some one who's been there.
 

No advice.. Just wanted to wish you the best - regardless of your decision..:hug:
 
I know the op has not responded, but I want to say that the whole house thing is quite questionable.

He was left with a house. As in, someone passed and he got it? Was it already mortgaged? If so, why is it still mortgaged? Typically, the only way it would be mortgaged in his and his brothers' names would be if they were dumb enough to refi the existing mortgage.

My daughter was left a mortgaged house. We sold it and put the money in a trust for her. If those brothers refied that house, and are in this much trouble (they must have taken out an ARM), then I would certainly not marry him--I'd wait until after he had gone through some serious credit and emotional counseling.

If he's making poor credit decisions now, he will continue to do so.

To me, with the house in the dire situation it is now, I'd file for bankruptcy. It would push the lawsuit forward and go ahead and get it out of the way.
 
There are definitley more options than the two presented, and they don't look sunny, given the particulars of the situation.
Yes, but I was going for two extremes. Of course dozens and dozens of variations could exist in between these two.
Someone told me before I was married that after a few years everything I thought was cute and endearing about my husband would become annoying.
That's true. Doesn't mean I want to get rid of him, but those same little quirks are maddening.
I used to be convinced that things had to be a VERY SPECIFIC way in my life. They didn't turn out that way. It came to the point where I had to accept that, and now, I am very happy even though my dreams didn't come true just the way I pictured.
When I was younger, I thought I knew exactly what I wanted! About half of the things I felt were "must dos, must haves, etc." have happened, while about half have changed. But my life at mid-40 is BETTER than I envisioned.
Ask your FI to give his part of the house to his brothers.
The problem is that the house has NEGATIVE EQUITY. It is worth LESS than they owe; thus, he'd really be saying, "Here, brothers, take on my share of this debt." Would you really treat your family that way?
Now, if you truly truly loved the man like you say you do, money would not be an issue, so that's where the doubt comes in.
Sorry but this is WRONG. I truly loved my 2nd husband and wanted it to all work but after 3-4 years of him not contributing financially in any significant way to the marriage, I had had enough. One mule pulling the cart alone gets mighty damned tired. As my friend says "I can be poor and miserable without having to drag you behind me".
I totally agree. Love is an emotion, and emotions vary. Even in a good marriage, there are times when it's all about each other and you're having a fantastic time . . . and there are times when other things take center stage (i.e, when you have a newborn, or when work's tough), and you don't forget each other -- not at all -- but you're not necessarily head-over-heels, thinking about each other every minute, calling on your breaks just to hear his voice, staying up late together, etc. And there are times when things are just plain bad -- maybe because you're fighting, maybe because outside influences have encroached on your lives. Sometimes love is pushed to the back burner, and that's when some people give up the marriage and call it quits rather than realizing that it's just part of the ebb and flow. You cannot count on emotion alone to keep a marriage going. Love alone is not enough.
To me, with the house in the dire situation it is now, I'd file for bankruptcy. It would push the lawsuit forward and go ahead and get it out of the way.
I don't think they have to declare bankruptcy. I think they just need to allow it to be foreclosed. I'm not saying it's a great choice, but they seem to be living on a sinking ship.

The smartest thing they could do (maybe not the most moral thing) is to each go find an apartment or other living arrangement NOW -- NOW before the house "goes" -- but make the move-in date 4 months from now. Sign a lease before the credit takes a hit. Stop paying the mortgage and PUT AWAY every penny that would've gone to the mortgage. When the house is lost, walk away without fighting it. Since they OWE more than the house is worth, they'll be relieved of a bad debt, and though they seem to be operating under the idea that they could someday, potentially make a profit on this house, it's time to give up that dream.
 
Yes, but I was going for two extremes. Of course dozens and dozens of variations could exist in between these two.

Didn't see the two extremes. There was marry him and everything turns out pretty well; or don't marry him, and eat your heart out when you see him with another woman. You totally forgot, marry him and regret it the rest of your life! :eek:

Cheers...I'm outta here like the OP...hope she gets her life together.
 
I once dated a man with a similar story...he IS now married to someone else--and now SHE supports him.
The facts are clear--there are too many unknowns to embark on this marriage.
PLEASE do not assume you will be alone forever. Most of my friends waited to be married until their 30s and are very glad for it.
Your heart is breaking, of course. But it would be MUCH more painful if you marry and this situation gets worse. (AND more costly to YOU)
YOU deserve better; the COMPLETE package. They ARE out there. GOOD LUCK!:hug:
PS I NEVER thought I'd advise this...but I have a friend and a relative who have used eHarmony with tremendous results. I was skeptical...but the results speak volumes!
 
someone said to put yourself in his shoes and I disagree completely... We are all individuals and you are not in his shoes this is not a pitty party this is the rest of your life.

Postpone the wedding if you can if he loves you he will understand. You can always continue the relationship while you live on your own and do some of the traveling you want to do. If things dont seem to be going int he direction you truly see your life going in then cut your ties.. I know others will disagree with me here but your young but your not a spring chicken and the truth is you have the right to search for and have the life you want. I dont belive any of us need to settle much less you have no children or ties beyond the emotional ties to your relationship. I'm not belittling your ties to this relationship just saying dont get married if you think you will regret it. You want to get married because you love someone and because you are planning a life with this person not because you feel obligated.

Either way best of luck I know if you really trust in yourself you will make the right choice for yourself. Nothing anyone says can or should truly influence you.
 
Like previous posters, I see a couple of issues here aside from the obvious.

What jumps out at me immediately is your inflexibility regarding all of the things you want/expect from life. Marriage is hard enough when you're willing to compromise, and it seems to me that going in with all these conditions - wanting to be married by 35, not wanting to postpone the wedding, no roommates, no second job, have to have two cars, etc. - is going to make it very, very difficult to reach any sort of compromise or truly work together to improve the situation. It also makes me wonder if you're really ready for marriage in the long-term, because things change and we end up making choices we never would have expected for the sake of our spouse/marriage/family. It doesn't sound like you're willing to do that.

On his side, I see a red flag in how enmeshed he is with his brothers on the house. Without knowing the circumstances of how they came to own the house, I'm just making assumptions, but it seems like he has allowed his own life to take a backseat to their collective existance as brothers, and that is something that will persist well beyond the sale of the house. If there is anything I should have given more thought about my own DH that would be it - he puts himself in the role of caretaker of his younger brother, at times to his (our) financial and emotional detriment, and that has been a source of conflict in our marraige.

The financial situation isn't good, but you're getting very worked up over a number of what-ifs/worse-case outcomes. If you really love this man and want to be with him, I would suggest postponing the wedding a year or so, with some clear and mutually agreed-upon goals for what each of you will have resolved in your own situations by that time. Set a date, not for the wedding but for when you will revisit the entirety of the situation before booking anything wedding-related. That will give you time to weigh your priorities and pay off your own debt, and give him time to show you how serious he is about resolving the problems in his life in order to be a partner to you.
 
The OP has not posted since the day she posted this thread. I think it is safe to say that she has received all the advice she was looking for and won't be returning to this thread.
 
I think it may have been advice she didn't want to hear.
 
Like previous posters, I see a couple of issues here aside from the obvious.

What jumps out at me immediately is your inflexibility regarding all of the things you want/expect from life. Marriage is hard enough when you're willing to compromise, and it seems to me that going in with all these conditions - wanting to be married by 35, not wanting to postpone the wedding, no roommates, no second job, have to have two cars, etc. - is going to make it very, very difficult to reach any sort of compromise or truly work together to improve the situation. It also makes me wonder if you're really ready for marriage in the long-term, because things change and we end up making choices we never would have expected for the sake of our spouse/marriage/family. It doesn't sound like you're willing to do that.


I agree completely. OP, go travel, go have fun do what you want. It sounds like marriage isn't for you. Not just with this guy.
 


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