Need help with talonavicular joint arthritis...

[Suger Mag]

So i am dealing with osteoarthritis in my right talonavicular joint, had a cortisone shot but it is wearing off. Besides pain while walking. I get aching pain when I am not weight bearing, and now it is starting to bother me while driving, and needless to say it impacts my enjoyment at WDW. Not quite ready for a scooter, so I suck it up and take pain meds.

Anyone here had any success with surgery? Any other ways you found relief? Any exercises or success with orthotics? I am resigned to not sexy supportive shoes for the rest of my life... any other ideas?

 

[maxaroni]

Can’t help you with osteoarthritis in that joint, but have had it in my left hip and have it in my 2 knees. I have had a hip replacement and am scheduled for a left knee replacement in 10 days.

From my experience, doing things that are good for you, such as walking, is actually a detriment to your arthritis. It’s a double edge sword, do good by exercising, yet risk the deterioration of your joint. My hip I put off way too long and my hip collapsed, which forced me into surgery. I have done the cortisone injections for my knees, as well as the gel injections. At first the cortisone helped for a good 3 - 4 months, then it was not even lasting 3 months, then 2 months. I have been taking 15mg meloxicam (anti inflammatory) which has gotten to the point of some, not much relief.

Osteoarthritis is never going to get better, you may be able to manage the pain for awhile, eventually you will no longer be able to. You will know when it’s time for any type of surgery. If you don’t want a scooter, which I can totally understand, you may want to think about surgery.

Good luck!

 

[LuvOrlando]

Read up on Allegra and arthritis, there are papers over a decade old on it and some new info but not much.

I know it sounds bizarre but I stumbled into it from a antibiotic allergy and have been having the best results of all medicines they tried on me with a baby dose, 60 mg teeny tiny is enough & lasts 12 hrs. I have no idea if it is just reducing swelling that is doing the trick or what but it's been a blessing. Completely random. I am possibly the world's most skeptical skeptic walking around and have been taking it a few months & my Dr's didn't say to stop, ask your own of course but it is at least something. For me Tylenol and Motrin seemed to make it worse so I was stuck. I think it actually improves things because my joints seem less inflexible.

I have been reading a lot on it and only find random loose ends, nothing flat out, but here is one I saw yesterday:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4517081/#:~:text=Fexofenadine has been shown to,chemotransmitters from basophils in vitro.

Diclofenac is OTC in a cream &/or gel and I have used it with some improvement especially when driving, but it is nowhere near as good as the Allegra for me. As always talk to your Dr like I did mine. Voltaren brand is everywhere.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Some people are finding some relief with voltaren cream. It’s worth a try.

https://www.voltarengel.com/

 

[Suger Mag]

Some people are finding some relief with voltaren cream. It’s worth a try.

https://www.voltarengel.com/

i have seen the ads will give it a shot, . Been trying some spray on Aspercreme with lidocaine with positive results, hoping to figure out a decent combination for our upcoming MNSSHP trip in October.

 

[Suger Mag]

Can’t help you with osteoarthritis in that joint, but have had it in my left hip and have it in my 2 knees. I have had a hip replacement and am scheduled for a left knee replacement in 10 days.

From my experience, doing things that are good for you, such as walking, is actually a detriment to your arthritis. It’s a double edge sword, do good by exercising, yet risk the deterioration of your joint. My hip I put off way too long and my hip collapsed, which forced me into surgery. I have done the cortisone injections for my knees, as well as the gel injections. At first the cortisone helped for a good 3 - 4 months, then it was not even lasting 3 months, then 2 months. I have been taking 15mg meloxicam (anti inflammatory) which has gotten to the point of some, not much relief.

Osteoarthritis is never going to get better, you may be able to manage the pain for awhile, eventually you will no longer be able to. You will know when it’s time for any type of surgery. If you don’t want a scooter, which I can totally understand, you may want to think about surgery.

Good luck!

Hoping to put off the inevitable until a year or two... dealing with mouth-teeth restoration currently , so I can only handle so much "work" at any one time LOL

 

[Pea-n-Me]

i have seen the ads will give it a shot, . Been trying some spray on Aspercreme with lidocaine with positive results, hoping to figure out a decent combination for our upcoming MNSSHP trip in October.

Walking around MK with a condition like this is a tall order for really any type of creams, sprays or even pills that you take, just because it’s so much walking that you aren’t used to on an already inflamed joint. It’s hard even for people who aren’t used to that kind of walking who don’t have arthritis in their foot bones, kwim? So while I think that the voltaren might help you on a daily basis , your best bet at MK might be a scooter or wheelchair there. Heck I got two broken toes in the pool a couple of years ago and I had to use a wheelchair at Epcot! This isn’t really that dissimilar.

My mother was plagued with horrible arthritis, especially in her knees, for many years into her 80s and 90s. We tried everything, all the newest everything, but most medications made her sick to her stomach, which she found worse. So even though she’d had a bleeding ulcer in the past, she had to stick with plain motrin. She couldn’t live without it. It was tough for her when she had to come off it for procedures. Anyway, her knees basically still hurt (but the motrin covered most of the other arthritis in her body pretty well). We bought tubes of aspercream by the dozen. But there were two things that she found worked better: the Voltaren, and there was a cream from Russia that a friend had recommended, but unfortunately it became unavailable (originally it was developed for horses).

Good luck, I imagine this must be pretty difficult to live with. It is important in general to keep moving as we age. Have you discussed something like neurontin/gabapentin with your doctor? That might be worth a try, as well.

 

[Suger Mag]

Walking around MK with a condition like this is a tall order for really any type of creams, sprays or even pills that you take, just because it’s so much walking that you aren’t used to on an already inflamed joint. It’s hard even for people who aren’t used to that kind of walking who don’t have arthritis in their foot bones, kwim? So while I think that the voltaren might help you on a daily basis , your best bet at MK might be a scooter or wheelchair there. Heck I got two broken toes in the pool a couple of years ago and I had to use a wheelchair at Epcot! This isn’t really that dissimilar.

My mother was plagued with horrible arthritis, especially in her knees, for many years into her 80s and 90s. We tried everything, all the newest everything, but most medications made her sick to her stomach, which she found worse. So even though she’d had a bleeding ulcer in the past, she had to stick with plain motrin. She couldn’t live without it. It was tough for her when she had to come off it for procedures. Anyway, her knees basically still hurt (but the motrin covered most of the other arthritis in her body pretty well). We bought tubes of aspercream by the dozen. But there were two things that she found worked better: the Voltaren, and there was a cream from Russia that a friend had recommended, but unfortunately it became unavailable (originally it was developed for horses).

Good luck, I imagine this must be pretty difficult to live with. It is important in general to keep moving as we age. Have you discussed something like neurontin/gabapentin with your doctor? That might be worth a try, as well.

so far I have managed to avoid daily medications (52) either OTC or prescription... so I still have some mileage to get out of those methods, but will keep those in mind., I have a pretty good tolerance for pain and even with it getting worse, I still managed to "outpark" the rest of the family on our last trip in April. My daughter says WDW is my painkiller

 

[leebee]

I'd do the scooter at WDW...

SO, foot/ankle surgery. I have been looking into this extensively as one orthopedic surgeon says with my flat foot, it's crucial for the long-term success of my knee replacement (which was done 6/21). What I learned is that foot/ankle surgery is painful despite the drugs, requires months of being non-weight bearing for the bones to heal, requires lots of diligent PT work to get daily usage back, and is one of the least successful orthopedic surgeries. It's all because of the huge pressure/torque of an adult body that is placed on such a small, delicate area. I was quite pleased when I went for a 2nd opinion on the knee to be referred to a different foot specialist, who said she'd rather I be fitted for serious, specific orthotics and try that before considering surgery. I'm gonna go that route first.

 

[CGB]

Have you tried orthotics? I've used them to treat plantar fasciitis and a plantar plate tear successfully. I've never had the problem you're describing, but it's worth a try. In both my cases, orthotics immediately addressed the pain and supported my foot while it healed.

 

[maxaroni]

Hoping to put off the inevitable until a year or two... dealing with mouth-teeth restoration currently , so I can only handle so much "work" at any one time LOL

I hear you. I put off my hip for too long, always something going on. I’ve put off my knees as well and now it’s time.

 

[maxaroni]

Some people are finding some relief with voltaren cream. It’s worth a try.

https://www.voltarengel.com/

My neighbor gave me a tube that her brother had gotten from Europe. It’s 2.3% of the active ingredient as opposed to 1%. Helps a little but I think I am past that point.