Need help- Hard drive running out space- Wife not happy!?

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Well we have a Dell Dimension 8200 desktop that has been good to us over the years. DW wants to keep it for her ebay and scrapbook use and the kids. I was checking last night and noticed the 40GB hard drive is down to just 4GB or so remaining left. She told me I need to do something so they can continue to use it. I recently bought a 250GB WD Passport Elite and I planned to backup our 12k+ of pictures on there. And with our newer D40 it seems we are taking more then ever! However, she would still like to have those on the desktop too, plus whatever other pics and programs they want to be added over time.
I am thinking I would like to install a replacement (larger) HD or add a second HD into the 8200 to solve my issue. Any suggestions, tips, hints, etc on doing this? I have never done this before so I am at a bit of a loss as to what’s best. I figure I can pick up a cheap HD off Newegg if I add/replace.
 
I only keep recent pics on my computer hard drive. I have an external HD that's always connected to my computer so if I want access to the pics, they're there. Why does she have to have them on there? You can still access with an external HD.

I also burn all my pics to DVDs as a backup, and upload to smugmug as another backup. I'm thinking of making a second set of DVDs as a final backup.
 
If you add a secondary hard drive make sure your power supply can handle it. I added a second hd and had to remove until I upgraded my power supply.
My power supply kept overloading and would shut down the system.

I went from a 450 watt ps to an 800 what ps. There are pretty cheap at tigerdirect.

An external hd would be your best bet







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not sure why she wants them on there, it is what it is I guess?:confused3
Yes, we do have a CD and DVD burner and I do back the pics up every few months onto DVD. I think I would prefer to not keep the external passport drive plugged in and running all the time. I am not sure how much of the internal HD the pics are taking up, but imagine less then the various programs on there.
So I guess I need help figuring out what is better and how to, adding a second internal drive and moving some stuff over to it, and leaving the programs on the main drive or is there a easy way to replace the drive in there with a bigger one and just move everything over to it and continune to run off the one (new) drive.
 
the first thing is to burn backups of everything, not just pictures. All hard drives will fail eventualy so a DVD or CD as a second backup is necessary. In fact I burn two and keep one offsite.

replacing the hard drive will be harder. You will have to transport or re-install the operating system. Adding an additional HD (if there is room in the case and the power supply is adequate as previously mentioned) could be the easiest route.

MIkeeee
 
I did just chat with Dell support and they said I need an IDE drive for our desktop. They said there "should" be a second slot in there for another drive. I will keep power supply in mind. Is there any sort of software that can move everything from the current drive to the new drive, if I choose to replace the drive and not add a second one?
 
Has anyone considered having a computer dedicated to photography?

I noticed WalMart had a Compaq system for $399 last time I was in the store and the idea crossed my mind.
 
If you add a secondary hard drive make sure your power supply can handle it. I added a second hd and had to remove until I upgraded my power supply.
My power supply kept overloading and would shut down the system.

I went from a 450 watt ps to an 800 what ps. There are pretty cheap at tigerdirect.

Dell told me there is a 250 watt in there now and the motherboard is configured for that and not to upgade to higher watts? Now I wonder if I am stuck not being able to add a second interal drive if I go that way. I would prefer to just switch out the one in there for a bigger one, but unsure if there is an easy way to transfer everything on the old drive over to the new one?
 
Has anyone considered having a computer dedicated to photography?

I noticed WalMart had a Compaq system for $399 last time I was in the store and the idea crossed my mind.


my pc is basically just for photography, the only software I've installed is photography related
 
I just had to upgrade to a one tarabyte external I filled up my 3gig with photos. :confused3
 
just going to weigh in here, I have considerable training and experience in the area.

Your power supply is fine. A 450 power supply should have been fine too. The previous poster had a broken or dieing supply. 800 Watts could power 4 monitors, 2 graphic cards and 3 or so HDs. Overkill to say the least. A 450 watt one will power a really high end graphic card, 2 hds and 2 monitors (im well aware monitors plug in, but they draw power by increasing the output of your graphic cards). Graphic cards are the single biggest draw on power, followed by monitors, really really really distant third is hard drives. Its never an issue.

You could upgrade to a better ps with no negative affects, but its a waste of money, dell probably just didnt want to get into details with you.

Easy way to transfer files. Install the new one, swap all the files, install a new OS on that (windows), pull the old drive after making the new one the master. That is a lot of pointless work.

Easy way to get what you need out of this. Put in the new drive (you're running IDE youre going to have set master and slave physically on the drive, its a pin system). Its easy if you know what you're doing, if you dont you have to look up your drive and figure out the settings. I still think this is the wrong way to go, you're going to be confused. Installing a hard drive isnt tough but for someone who has no idea about the insides of computers you're going to be pretty confused. The only more difficult thing is changing out processsors and thats actually easier because there are no software changes to make.

I'd suggest this.
Buy a hard drive. DO NOT BUY A CHEAP ONE. Deals can be had on computers from time to time. You literally get what you pay for ALWAYS with hds though. The cheap ones are supposed to last 3 years, more expensive ones can last well over 10.

You need an IDE drive. Not SATA, make sure you know this, the salesperson wont have a clue.

Install it ALONG with your other drive in their already. Here are some benefits. You get a virus, your computer dies. You lost every single picture with your current set up. Viruses attack the OS though, so if you put the pictures on your second drive if you lose your OS you dont lose your pictures. Scenario 2) computer dies, exact same as above. There is no downside to having 2 drives. I've had 2 drives in every computer Ive owned since at least 1998, probably more than a dozen comps. All it does is add an extra drive to your "my computer". That entire drive could be pictures and next time you get a computer all you have to do is pull that drive out, and slot it in the new one!

And... Its like 40 dollars to get this installed by someone who knows how to do it. Just pay the 40 bucks. The place I buy from installs anything I buy later for free. Its not a big box though (which is good, most expensive place to buy computers are big box stores). Im not sure you'd have a similar option there without having a relationship with them, but you can get it done cheaply. Again, do not take it to a big box unless you want to pay a lot. As for where to buy, find a mom and pop place and see what they have on their price list. Explain what you want, dont get the most expensive, just get middle of the road which will be high quality. If you really want to do it yourself, ask a lot of questions and be ready to take some pictures and post them because that drive in there now is going to be beyond most people's memories.

couple other things. Backing up on cds is kind of outdated on this point. They deteriorate in as little as a year to lose some files, this is because the ones you buy at home aren't pressed, thats why ones you buy pre done like games or music, are shiny on the bottoms, these aren't. Its just dangerous to back up on cds or dvds and rely on it for anything over 2 - 3 years. Its a last resort for transfering files if you cant get a network going but mainly they're for transport and immediate use. It woldn't be uncommon to burn a cd worth of pictures and to have 5% be unreadable after a year. Its an awful back up system. As for hds dieing, it happens, but they actually dont die like a tv does. Usually 99.9% of the drive is recoverable and they never die unexpectedly. I do use two computers though. 1 backs up everything and is used in a limited capacity when im moving about (its a laptop). One desktop handles media like movies and downloads everything to screen it. Third is the powerhouse that I use for functionality.

An external hard drive will cost more and be significantly smaller than what you can get for an internal, probably close to twice the cost per mb, but it will be supremely easy. Plug and play, move to whatever computer you want in the future.
 
Why not have the pics all on your main pc and then share them over a home network? That way, you could completely free up the space on your old pc. If you do not have a network already, it is not difficult. I keep all our pics on my pc with a removable drive backing them up nightly. I then share the files (read only) to our home network so anyone on our five computers can access them. I keep it read only b/c I do not trust the kids accidentally deleting something.
 
Thanks for everyones help so far! I just checking my HD and the folder with all the pics in is about 8GB in size right now, less then I expected, but still decent when talking about a 40 GB HD. It sounds like it may be easier and work nicely to install a second internal drive and transfer pictures over there to free up space on the main (small) drive.

I guess a question that sticks in my mind, if I want to just go to one drive only, is there a program that would let me transfer everything (programs, files, etc), including the Windows XP I am using, over to that new drive? Then I could flip settings on the drives to show it as the master drive and then remove the old drive?
 
Thanks for everyones help so far! I just checking my HD and the folder with all the pics in is about 8GB in size right now, less then I expected, but still decent when talking about a 40 GB HD. It sounds like it may be easier and work nicely to install a second internal drive and transfer pictures over there to free up space on the main (small) drive.

I guess a question that sticks in my mind, if I want to just go to one drive only, is there a program that would let me transfer everything (programs, files, etc), including the Windows XP I am using, over to that new drive? Then I could flip settings on the drives to show it as the master drive and then remove the old drive?

I personally just use Windows Explorer. I open up my Pictures folder and my external hard drive folder. Then I just click and drag. I found this easier than using the program that the EHD came with. This also allows me to open and view the files at will.

I use a Maxtor OneTouch (400GB) for my EHD. My laptop holds 220, but I didn't want to use up all of that space on my laptop for something that I don't really watch that much or just files that I like to keep off my main drive, like videos I make or pictures that I can deal with not having on my person at all times. I also backed up all of my other files on my main computer, "just in case". This allows me to delete space-consuming shadow copies that Vista makes.
 
Thanks for everyones help so far! I just checking my HD and the folder with all the pics in is about 8GB in size right now, less then I expected, but still decent when talking about a 40 GB HD. It sounds like it may be easier and work nicely to install a second internal drive and transfer pictures over there to free up space on the main (small) drive.

I guess a question that sticks in my mind, if I want to just go to one drive only, is there a program that would let me transfer everything (programs, files, etc), including the Windows XP I am using, over to that new drive? Then I could flip settings on the drives to show it as the master drive and then remove the old drive?

No, its not possible to transfer programs over unless they were written in order to do that, probably about less than 1/10 programs can do it and almost all of them are games. There would be no 'pointers' in your registry to let the computer know what was on it, mainly your OS wouldnt even function, let alone everything else.
 
No, its not possible to transfer programs over unless they were written in order to do that, probably about less than 1/10 programs can do it and almost all of them are games. There would be no 'pointers' in your registry to let the computer know what was on it, mainly your OS wouldnt even function, let alone everything else.

Thanks. So if I wanted to go the one-drive way, I would have to reload all programs onto the new drive such as Adobe, Roxio, Microsoft office, etc etc... and hope I have the disks for them to reload or downloadable online? And I would also have to have a disk for the windows XP that came on the computer? Basically I would just be able to transfer files over to the new one like pictures, music, word docs and so forth?
sorry, just want to make sure I am understanding this fully.
 
I guess a question that sticks in my mind, if I want to just go to one drive only, is there a program that would let me transfer everything (programs, files, etc), including the Windows XP I am using, over to that new drive? Then I could flip settings on the drives to show it as the master drive and then remove the old drive?

I've used Norton Ghost (~$50) with XP to copy the entire contents of a small drive to a bootable larger drive.


-Paul
 
Thanks. So if I wanted to go the one-drive way, I would have to reload all programs onto the new drive such as Adobe, Roxio, Microsoft office, etc etc... and hope I have the disks for them to reload or downloadable online? And I would also have to have a disk for the windows XP that came on the computer? Basically I would just be able to transfer files over to the new one like pictures, music, word docs and so forth?
sorry, just want to make sure I am understanding this fully.

Yes.

Ghost takes the registry and puts it on the new drive. It'd do the trick but it brings everything else with it.

Its still 50 dollars even if you dont mind the host of other issues it brings, why dont you want to have two drives?
 












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