Napkins at WDW

Rat Pack, I should apologize. I think I had mistaken you for another poster who mentioned taking extra napkins for scrapbooking and souvenirs (actually, I think there were several who mentioned that, if not in this thread, then the other one.)

You're absolutely right. I do keep the extra napkins I get at fast food restaurants in my car (although that is extremely rare.) We've never had a left over napkin at WDW because we take one per person and they all get used because my kids are messy. :) I'm just really big on not taking more than we need of any sort of complimentary item. So when my kids want a second bakery sample, I say no. If they want to take 100 ketchup packets, I say no. And as much as I'd like to stock up on tea packets at the drink stations to take back to the room, I don't.

But yes, sometimes there are left overs.

However, some people have mentioned really nice white, stamped napkins. If they are just brown napkins with a stamp that people are upset about (and some people have said that this is the last straw...napkins!) then I still don't understand what the issue is. I just don't notice things like napkins. :) But I adore special touches. That said, if I want "nice" then I will eat where the napkins are fabric anyway. A paper napkin is a paper napkin to me, stamped, embossed, or gold-trimmed.

:)

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Are we seriously using the term "feeling of loss" over napkins? I think I can find 12 families that would take issue with the use of "feeling of loss" right now.

Disney switched napkins. They also added a few theme parks and a new Fantasyland and improved F&W and added Fastpasses and character meals and....

I'm not trying to be a Disney cheerleader here, and I think there are things to complain about that are valid. I just think that the napkin thing is absurd. Being sad that the Orange Bird is gone is understandable (wait, he's back!) Being sad that a napkin is gone...that's a bit much for me.

Napkins.

Sigh.
 
Are we seriously using the term "feeling of loss" over napkins? I think I can find 12 families that would take issue with the use of "feeling of loss" right now.

Disney switched napkins. They also added a few theme parks and a new Fantasyland and improved F&W and added Fastpasses and character meals and....

I'm not trying to be a Disney cheerleader here, and I think there are things to complain about that are valid. I just think that the napkin thing is absurd. Being sad that the Orange Bird is gone is understandable (wait, he's back!) Being sad that a napkin is gone...that's a bit much for me.

Napkins.

Sigh.

It's not about the napkins. In this thread, the napkins have become a symbol for a phenomenon.

This phenomenon, this observable occurrence, is that Disney has been slowly (but surely) removing its attention to the small details.

Perhaps Disney is reversing this trend with the return of resort specific merchandise. I hope so.

But I treasure my little box of matches with the Empress Lilly Riverboat logo on it.

I treasure my memories of the Mickey Mouse shaped pats of butter that I used to get at the Top of the World Sunday Brunch.

And I love anything, from a paper cup, to a paper napkin, to a bar of soap, if it has Mickey Mouse on it.

I really think that is all the people, like me, who are lamenting the loss of the logo napkins, are saying. We love the Mouse and we want to see him around more. It doesn't have to be on a paper napkin, but I sure hope I can find him other places.

Hey, everybody, maybe this is REALLY Disney's most ingenious marketing campaign yet!!!! Find the Hidden Mickey on the new brown paper napkins. They will have people like me looking for Mickey for hours! :rotfl:

I am a Disney cheerleader. Always have been and hope I always will be.
 
And I love anything, from a paper cup, to a paper napkin, to a bar of soap, if it has Mickey Mouse on it.

I really think that is all the people, like me, who are lamenting the loss of the logo napkins, are saying. We love the Mouse and we want to see him around more. It doesn't have to be on a paper napkin, but I sure hope I can find him other places.

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I don't think you are going to have trouble finding things with Mickey Mouse on them at any Disney theme park. Ever.
 

All the bar napkins now say "Disney Parks." That means you can probably get the same napkins whether or not you are at WDW, Disneyland or Tokyo Disney Sea. Just part of the streamlining/cutbacks we've seen in the past few years. I know they have to do it.
 
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We were just saying the other day how we used to love going to Universal. But my husband said that a couple of years ago when he went it had really changed. It wasn't the fun 'nickelodeon' park our kids had enjoyed, but on the night he went, with our oldest son, they were taunted about their 'fast passes' and other things by a bunch of smart mouth teens. He said he saw people walking around without shirts on...etc. Same goes for our local Six Flags. They've all downgraded things over the years to the point of being somewhere we would rather not visit....sad really.

I hope that in 10 years we're not sitting here thinking the same of Disney. All these little things made Disney special for us. If we grabbed 10 napkins for supper and only used 8, I put the extra 2 in my bag and we carried them around for emergency nose bleeds or wiping up unrecognizable goo from ride seats or bus seats before sitting down. By the end of the trip we did have 20 napkins or so that went home with us....and it really does give the kids a smile to get one of those with dinner from time to time. Is it silly to some....well yea, probably.

Still it's the small things that add up and make it Disney and not Six Flags, Universal or your local county fair. When all these small things are gone....you'll be left with just another theme park.

Well said Rat Pack!! Our family has a budget, like most people I know. Certain theme parks aren't appealing enough to spend our hard earned $$ at. They're generic. WDW needs to continue to be unique, or we'll just spend our vacations elsewhere.
 
Personally I just want napkins that do their job and I'm satisfied. Now Disney's toilet paper could stand to be improved but that's another thread. (Actually that would be a hoot if it actually was another thread. ;) )
 
I am not focusing on the napkins. I am focusing on the attention to details and the superior customer service.

Everything I needed for 100 lifetimes worth of vacations was at Walt Disney World in 1984.

  • The Contemporary Resort was beautiful. The rooms were luxurious.
  • The pool, the beach, and the lake area at the Contemporary Resort were meticulously maintained.
  • The monorail was an awesome mode of transportation to both the Magic Kingdom and Epcot.
  • The Magic Kingdom and Epcot sported the latest in technology.
  • Buses to the Walt Disney World Village allowed me to shop in a variety of boutiques.
  • The Gulf Coast Room, the Empress Lilly Riverboat, and Broadway at the Top provided the ultimate dining experiences.
  • River Country and Discovery Island were an oasis of joy for me.
  • Bay Lake provided recreation, such as the mini-sprite boats, water skiing, and fishing, and I took advantage of all those opportunites.

And, most importantly, every single cast member, every single one--bar none, did this:

  • Made eye contact and smiled at me.
  • Greeted and welcomed me.
  • Sought me out as their guest.
  • Created a magical experience for me.
  • Thanked me.

Every cast member made me feel like a VIP, because Disney knew customer service. They rocked that boat. They got it right. All that, and Walt Disney World never felt too crowded.

And yes, I miss that. And yes, it inspired a loyalty in me, that even today, is hard to dismiss.

I have read through your list, and can't see that much has changed. However, much has been added, which is my point. People are focusing on something small that has been done away with, and not acknowledging all that has been added or improved. People looking at the negative, and totally ignoring the positive.

I still think too that by and large the CMs are great!
 
10 pages...:coffee:

"Where it stops,

Nobody knows.

It just continues

To grow and grow..."popcorn::
 
Personally I just want napkins that do their job and I'm satisfied. Now Disney's toilet paper could stand to be improved but that's another thread. (Actually that would be a hoot if it actually was another thread. ;) )
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Now THAT I wanna see!

"Toilet Paper at WDW: The Beginning of the End"


Feel free to use the title.;)
 
I found this fun fact on Disney by the numbers: 24,409 miles of paper towel are used at WDW each year. That is a lot of towels!! Just think how much money they are saving by not having anything printed on them. It boggles the mind.
 
:thumbsup2 I'll start complaining when they get rid of nightly fireworks. :)
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We go over Christmas and over the summer. The summer fireworks are half the show the give over the Christmas holidays. From my favorite room at BLT i can also see the fireworks from Universal Studios... Theirs are considerably better then ours... Not only are they much more complex but go twice as long if not more.
 
I don't mind the napkins without a Disney logo. They're still doing their job and if it saves them money they could put somewhere else, then why not?
 
We go over Christmas and over the summer. The summer fireworks are half the show the give over the Christmas holidays. From my favorite room at BLT i can also see the fireworks from Universal Studios... Theirs are considerably better then ours... Not only are they much more complex but go twice as long if not more.

Huh? :confused3

I don't know what you saw, but it does not sound at all like Universal.
 
I am pretty sure you can't see Universal's fireworks from BLT. and if you could, they would be too far away to tell how complex they are.
 
Don't know where else it could have been. They went on for like 15min about a half hour before Wishes. I see them both over Christmas and this last summer stay. So it isn't the first time. :confused3 Interesting, now i want to know where they are coming from... Looking at a map the correct direction was towards Universal. Either way the summer (June 10-25) Wishes is not nearly as good as the winter (over Christmas to New Years - not including NYE) Wishes. Now don't get me wrong, i know the fireworks cost a fortune so i don't blame them for cutting back out of the Premier Season even then we always make it a point to catch Wishes each night. The thing that is kinda cool is not all go up. So will go off on the ground. Some go astray... BLT is awesome.
 
You can see Illuminations from part of BLT, from a distance, maybe it was that show with the holiday "tag."
 
I have read through your list, and can't see that much has changed. However, much has been added, which is my point. People are focusing on something small that has been done away with, and not acknowledging all that has been added or improved. People looking at the negative, and totally ignoring the positive.

I still think too that by and large the CMs are great!

I will join you in celebrating the positive. I love Hollywood Studios and the Animal Kingdom. Neither of those parks existed in 1984, and today, both of them thrill me.

But more than just small things are gone.

As a child, I went to Walt Disney World just about every other year from 1976-1992. Then, I did not go to Disney again until 2002. In those 10 years, between 1992 and 2002, important things were lost from my Walt Disney World experience.

The one that was the MOST shocking to me was that in 2002, all of a sudden, it seemed that at the end of every attraction, guests were spit out into a gift shop. Disney never did that in the 1980s. It turned the park experience into something crass and commercial to me. Maybe it was done gradually over those 10 years, and most guests did not even notice the difference, but I sure did.

With a gift shop at the end of every attraction, it became blatantly obvious that Disney World was putting profit ahead of guest experience. I like a subtle approach better. That kind of in-your-face materialism is offensive to me. I am able to put blinders on to it today, but I do miss the old feel of the Magic Kingdom.

Another loss, for me, is the increase in crowd levels. In the 1980s, all of my family vacations were from June 26th to July 5th. Even on the Fourth of July, Disney never felt too crowded. Of course, there were crowds, especially for the parades and fireworks, but nothing like the crowds that exist now.

In December 2008, I was nearly trampled, in a bottle neck in front of the Crystal Palace, while trying to navigate a stroller out of the park before the fireworks began.

That sounds extreme, but it's actually pretty accurate. People were stuck and no one wanted to back up. One side of the crowd was yelling at the other side to move, and neither side was willing to budge. I didn't care which way we went, as long as I eventually got my four year old safely out of the park.

I was standing on the bridge near the Crystal Palace, and I could hear a child crying that she had to go potty. Several young adult males started shouting obscenities at the crowd to move. I was backed up against the guard rail on the bridge so tight that I was afraid I was going to go over it. A middle aged woman stepped into my daughter's stroller without asking permission and started climbing on top of people to get out. It was insanity. And I really believe it was negligence on Disney's part to allow that situation to occur.

My third example combines the commercialism with the crowds, MNSSHP and MVMCP. You would think those two events would be welcome additions to the Disney experience.

Well, I was about two hours into my first MVMCP when I realized what Disney had done. Although I had paid for park admission that day, they had closed the park several hours early and coaxed me into paying for park admission a SECOND time that day. Then, they said there would be free hot chocolate and cookies (watered down and hard-as-a-rock) and SNOW (some kind of strange soap flakes, that I was scared to inhale, falling on one small section of Main Street).

But of course, none of that mattered, because there was limited admission, and we had special tickets--NOT! The Magic Kingdom was more crowded that evening than it had been all day. It was standing room only at the special shows, and tall people with hats on stood in front of me. My four year old couldn't see a thing. The character meets had lines a mile long. The rides had lines a mile long. The whole experience was one big bust, and I was fool hardy enough to pay double the cost of admission for all of us.

And then, along with the over-the-top commercialism and crowd levels, it also seems that the customer service has slipped at Disney. Some cast members are as wonderful as ever, but a noticeable number do not make eye contact or greet guests. It's not their fault. The customer service training is not the same as it was in the 1980s. I do not believe the cast members are treated as well by Disney as they once were either.

I do hope that cast members are treated well, because they deserve the very best Disney has to offer.

Finally, I feel that Disney continues to make cutbacks that detract from the guest experience (closing Pleasure Island, cuts to the monorail schedule, even Fantasmic was cut to two nights per weeks for a while, although park attendance was strong). Another area with significant cutbacks has been the dining plan. First, they took away the gratuity and appetizer, and now, they are taking away the second snack on the quick service plan. Did they really need to do that? Not to mention that dining plan in general has caused many of the restaurants to no longer offer some of the more unique and special dishes, and food quality has suffered.

Other details that I miss have been discussed here ad infinitum (i.e. resort specific merchandise, Mickey shaped pats of butter, and logo napkins), but suffice it to say that there have been noticeable losses that negatively impact my experience as a guest, and no, bigger and better theme parks do not, necessarily, make up for those losses.

But I will go with what is and appreciate what Disney has to offer. It's still my favorite place to vacation and I DO appreciate the new attractions and look forward to the future fantasyland expansion.
 












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