My Wife was injured at the DVC Annual Meeting: Updated Post #51

Mike, I am very sorry to hear about your wife's accident. I wish her all the best on her recovery. You guys were troopers to continue on and maje the best of your AKV stay.

Disney should absolutley cover all costs. It is the least that they can do. Maybe they can also credit you your points from the stay.

I hope that this experience does not diminish your obvious enthusiasm for WDW and DVC.
 
I'm having a hard time with this one. I'm sorry someone got hurt but why do we think AKL should have been notified etc. My husband broke a couple of ribs on a watermouse two years ago-engine stalled-he slipped trying to start it. Nothing was done for us at all-the boat wasn't comped-and I didn't complain about it. Our insurance paid for an expensive CTscan etc. I don't know if they sought reimbursement from Disney. Not my problem.

Another time my 65 yo FIL got knocked down by the goats at AK. Thank God he wasn't hurt, just shaken and sore. The staff saw it-apologized and that was that.

Accidents happen. Just because they happen at WDW doesn't mean the red carpet gets rolled out.
 
I think it is more negligence as supposed to an accident if the floor of the bathroom was wet because of faulty maintenance on the pipes. That makes Disney liable and should pay for medical bills. In fact it would probably be a good idea to talk to a personal injury attorney. -just my $.02
 
My husband broke a couple of ribs on a watermouse two years ago-engine stalled-he slipped trying to start it.
Mike's wife slipping on a wet floor caused by a leaky sink in a public restroom at a Disney resort while attending a Disney event is quite a different fact set.
 

I almost added to my OP in this thread, that the reason Disney didn't follow up is to not be locked into accepting any responsibility and therefore any liability for this incident. Unfortunately, we live in a litigious society and everyone is more sensitive to this fact as a result.
 
Thanks for all the "best wishes", folks.

Everyone at AKL said they were surprised that CSR dropped the ball. They said the Manager at CSR was supposed to give us information on contacting WDW Guest Claims.

The AKL management provided me with contact information for the WDW Guest Claims group, as well as the regular WDW Guest Communications contact. They suggested I mention the problem we had with CSR dropping the ball, so to speak.

I have no intention of filing a lawsuit. I do feel that the amount of water that pooled under the sink and ran across the floor indicates a lack of proper regular maintenance by CSR.

I'm just going to ask Disney for the cost of our emergency room deductable ($100) and our out-of-pocket costs for the 3 prescriptions ($30). I would be happy just to have Disney Dollars!

I do recognize it was an accident and won't be looking for anything else from Disney beyond that.

My wife is still feeling pain but has improved since the incident on Tuesday.

Again, thanks for everyone's thoughts and wishes for my wife's speedy recovery!
 
Thanks for all the "best wishes", folks.

Everyone at AKL said they were surprised that CSR dropped the ball. They said the Manager at CSR was supposed to give us information on contacting WDW Guest Claims.

The AKL management provided me with contact information for the WDW Guest Claims group, as well as the regular WDW Guest Communications contact. They suggested I mention the problem we had with CSR dropping the ball, so to speak.

I have no intention of filing a lawsuit. I do feel that the amount of water that pooled under the sink and ran across the floor indicates a lack of proper regular maintenance by CSR.

I'm just going to ask Disney for the cost of our emergency room deductable ($100) and our out-of-pocket costs for the 3 prescriptions ($30). I would be happy just to have Disney Dollars!

I do recognize it was an accident and won't be looking for anything else from Disney beyond that.

My wife is still feeling pain but has improved since the incident on Tuesday.

Again, thanks for everyone's thoughts and wishes for my wife's speedy recovery!

I think you are being very reasonable in this situation.

Good to hear your wife is improving!
 
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Mike,

I hope your wife continues to improve. Sorry about your trip. I know it would be tough for all of the build-up leading to your Disney vacation and then something like this happens.

Sounds like you are taking the necessary steps to handle the situation correctly.
 
Glad that you were able to take in many Christmas highlights at WDW before the terrible fall and happy that DW is doing better. Here's to a PERFECT trip next time!
 
Sending Pixie Dust for a speedy recovery pixiedust: Hope your March trip turns out a little more magical :goodvibes
 
I'm sorry to hear about your wife, but I'm curious to understand your thought process on why COR had to call AKL? What's the purpose? Did you have others staying there? I don't understand.
 
I'm sorry to hear about your wife, but I'm curious to understand your thought process on why COR had to call AKL? What's the purpose? Did you have others staying there? I don't understand.

I would have thought that CSR would have notified the resort we were staying at (otherwise, why did the CSR manager ask which resort we were staying at and take our room number?).

I thought at least the staff at AKL would have been notified so they could be prepared to assist us when we returned to the resort. In fact, all the managers at AKL said that CSR was supposed to do that. They admitted that was Disney policy, and suggested that I be sure to comment upon this in my letter to Guest Communications.
 
I would have thought that CSR would have notified the resort we were staying at (otherwise, why did the CSR manager ask which resort we were staying at and take our room number?).

I thought at least the staff at AKL would have been notified so they could be prepared to assist us when we returned to the resort. In fact, all the managers at AKL said that CSR was supposed to do that. They admitted that was Disney policy, and suggested that I be sure to comment upon this in my letter to Guest Communications.
Also, at a minimum, I would have expected to return to my room to find a phone mail message from the CSR manager giving me contact info, and telling me to call THEM if I needed anything. I also would have expected a second call the next morning to see if there was anything they could do. I don't think followup was really the responsibility of AKV, although they did a great job when they found out about the injury.

The silly "thinking of you" call two days later (obviously after AKV contacted them and told them the right way to handle things) fell well short of what they should have done. This kind of sloppy handling by CSR is precisely what ticks customers off so bad that the first contact you get from them is from their lawyer.

TLSnell1981 is absolutely correct that we live in a litigious society (especially here in Florida), but the best way to prevent litigation is to take care of problems correctly as early as possible. Any company who drags their feet and lets the injured party "lawyer-up" deserves whatever they get. I'm sure Disney understands that quite clearly, which is why they have lots of protocols in place to deal with situations like this. Unfortunately, CSR dropped the ball.

The Big Picture, though, is that Mike's wife is fine and improving, and that's great news. The rest is just details.
 
Mike,

I hope your wife's continues to improve and that your March trip is exceptional.

I have never stayed at CSR, probably never will, and am sorry to hear of the poor service that you received from them. I hope for others sake that they change their policies and practices soon.

As far as AKL is concerned my husband and I love the place. Their service is exceptional. I am glad to hear they took such good care of you and your wife. Dave and I stayed concierge for our wedding four and 1/2 years ago and not only were they wonderful while we were there, but one year later they called us at home on our anniversary. It's the little things like this that keep us coming back to Disney.

Sending you pixie dust on a speedy recovery and a great march trip. :wizard:
 
So sorry to hear of her injury!! How is she doing now? All healed up as expected? A few years ago, my little boy injured his hips ligaments too, and that was scary because they said if it were a break, that at his age, it would mean years in a wheelchair with alternating therapy as he grows. Thankfully it was just a ligament injury! Hope tht your wife has healed up just as nicely as my son.
 
I would have thought that CSR would have notified the resort we were staying at (otherwise, why did the CSR manager ask which resort we were staying at and take our room number?).

IMHO, they only asked for documentation purposes, to check your Disney file, and in case one of their loss control or risk management people wanted to contact you. I would pretty much assure you that those questions were for them, not to necessarily help you. However, you were the one who was there and who was asked the questions, so perhaps I am misreading the conversation.
 
Mike, I like your posts as they always seem level headed and well informed. You are the go to man for info. I hope the wife is OK and believe eveything you did was appropriate.
Ralph
Newbie, hoping to make things better with every trip.
 
Also, at a minimum, I would have expected to return to my room to find a phone mail message from the CSR manager giving me contact info, and telling me to call THEM if I needed anything. I also would have expected a second call the next morning to see if there was anything they could do. I don't think followup was really the responsibility of AKV, although they did a great job when they found out about the injury.

The silly "thinking of you" call two days later (obviously after AKV contacted them and told them the right way to handle things) fell well short of what they should have done. This kind of sloppy handling by CSR is precisely what ticks customers off so bad that the first contact you get from them is from their lawyer.

TLSnell1981 is absolutely correct that we live in a litigious society (especially here in Florida), but the best way to prevent litigation is to take care of problems correctly as early as possible. Any company who drags their feet and lets the injured party "lawyer-up" deserves whatever they get. I'm sure Disney understands that quite clearly, which is why they have lots of protocols in place to deal with situations like this. Unfortunately, CSR dropped the ball.

The Big Picture, though, is that Mike's wife is fine and improving, and that's great news. The rest is just details.

As you said, the important thing is Mike's wife is fine and improving. We have had illness and injury at Disney and understand how upsetting it is.

However, just for the record, I must agree with some of the others. I would never have expected CSR to contact my resort unless I needed them to contact family there.

Also we are not sure they didn't. I mean how would you know. There are so many staff members that could have been contacted.

Also AKV stepped up after Mike contacted them, as he stated after numerous calls to them and DVC.

I am sure if Mike had been staying at CSR and had reached out and reminded them his wife was hurt as he did at AKV they would have responded similarly.

Disney is famous for shifting blame to another resort, or department in order to placate a guest, in this case AKV shifted blame to CSR where in my opinion their only short coming was not to put up a warning sign on the water issue in the bathroom if they knew it was leaking.

Mike, hope your wife continues to improve. :thumbsup2
 
A friend of our's broke his leg at DLR. Basically he tripped on the sidewalk curb at the Hub. After being attended to by Disney, he was sent to the hospital. He never heard from Disney after that, so various Disney fan friends told him to contact guest services which he did. He only mentioned that he had only been in the park for an hour before his fall, and wanted to know if he could get money back on the park ticket, or if he could still use it the next time he was at DLR. Once GS looked up the accident on their log, and confirmed it, they immediately sent him a huge get well card from Mickey and the Gang. A proclamation of him being an honorary citizen of Disneyland, and an offer to stay at the GC free for 2 nights with park passes. But before he could get the GC stay, and tickets, he had to sign a legal document that he would not sue Disney for the accident. As he admits, it was his own fault, and not any wrongdoing by Disney. He signed the document, and had a great long weekend, courtesy of Disney.
He found out during the process the reason why Disney did not contact him first. As privacy laws in CA prevent anyone to get information about personal health or medical information about patients, they were legally prevented to contact him about his injury, once he was off property. Basically, in his instance, Disney had to wait for him to call them, and volunteer his medical emergency info, before they could legally talk to him about any gifts, or restitution in relation to his injury.
 
JimMIA said:
Also, at a minimum, I would have expected to return to my room to find a phone mail message from the CSR manager giving me contact info, and telling me to call THEM if I needed anything. I also would have expected a second call the next morning to see if there was anything they could do. I don't think followup was really the responsibility of AKV, although they did a great job when they found out about the injury.

The silly "thinking of you" call two days later (obviously after AKV contacted them and told them the right way to handle things) fell well short of what they should have done. This kind of sloppy handling by CSR is precisely what ticks customers off so bad that the first contact you get from them is from their lawyer.

TLSnell1981 is absolutely correct that we live in a litigious society (especially here in Florida), but the best way to prevent litigation is to take care of problems correctly as early as possible. Any company who drags their feet and lets the injured party "lawyer-up" deserves whatever they get. I'm sure Disney understands that quite clearly, which is why they have lots of protocols in place to deal with situations like this. Unfortunately, CSR dropped the ball.

The Big Picture, though, is that Mike's wife is fine and improving, and that's great news. The rest is just details.
Yesterday 09:42 AM

As you said, the important thing is Mike's wife is fine and improving. We have had illness and injury at Disney and understand how upsetting it is.

However, just for the record, I must agree with some of the others. I would never have expected CSR to contact my resort unless I needed them to contact family there.

Also we are not sure they didn't. I mean how would you know. There are so many staff members that could have been contacted.

Also AKV stepped up after Mike contacted them, as he stated after numerous calls to them and DVC.

I am sure if Mike had been staying at CSR and had reached out and reminded them his wife was hurt as he did at AKV they would have responded similarly.

Disney is famous for shifting blame to another resort, or department in order to placate a guest, in this case AKV shifted blame to CSR where in my opinion their only short coming was not to put up a warning sign on the water issue in the bathroom if they knew it was leaking.

Mike, hope your wife continues to improve. :thumbsup2

Mike, another member here hoping your wife is improving and feeling better. :goodvibes

As the above posts indicate, there seems to be a difference of opinion regarding the way in which these things should be handled.

On the one hand, businesses have been forced to protect themselves due to our litigious-happy society and on the other, corporations have drained themselves of every ounce of compassion and decency in order to avoid being viewed accountable and therefore cater to the lowest common denominator and percentages of human behavior when establishing policies.

If I had a third hand, I'd say that as JimMIA suggested, guests and consumers with legitimate complaints and issues have been forced to "lawyer up" because those responsible refuse to do the right thing until they are forced to do so. It's become a viscious circle.

In my opinion only, in this case, Disney fell short of doing the "right thing". That "right thing" is generally enough for most people who would not pursue the matter any further.

AKV attempted to smooth things over and I'm sure their actions were very much appreciated, but the reality is that, Disney and CSR management should have been involved. Otherwise, the right people are not involved in order to ensure that everything is done to avoid this type of accidental injury in the future.

Water is a lightening rod for accidents and areas with a lot of water such as restrooms, kitchens, etc and should be checked, cleaned and mopped on frequent schedules to avoid the risk of serious injury.

It is also not the guest's responsibility to attempt to figure out exactly who to contact and who should be involved in the incident. Frankly, as a guest, every employee IS Disney to me and it should only ever take reporting it to one CM if things are handled and working properly . I don't care who or what the internal cogs of responsibility are, as a guest, I just need it taken care of.

Perhaps if corporations spent as much time training employees on safety issues and procedures as well as the "right thing" to do when something does happen, corporations might find that there would be far fewer complaints which make them vulnerable.

What happened to the Disney that used to set the customer service bar and teach it to others from all over the world via the Disney Institute?
 



















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