My Mother!!! (Caution: Very Long Vent Ahead!)

tiff211

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Let me just start out by saying I love my mother to death but she drives me up the wall!!

Background: My mother was not raised by my grandmother, her grandmother raised her until she was 12 and then she was passed from relative to relative some of who were abusive. I understand her rough childhood effected who she is but she uses this as an excuses for all the choices she makes in life. How she raised me and my sibling, the kind of grandmother she is or isn't, She got married to my dad at 16, had my brother at 17, my parents separated and then got back together long enough to make me. When I was 5 she remarried and had 5 more children. Because she said she hated having a boss, she was always seeking out new "business ventures" that were not successful and didn't bring in any money. My stepfather worked 3 jobs to pay the bills. We had enough to have a roof over our heads, clothes on our back and food in our bellies but no extras. My mother was always out with these new ventures so me and my stepbrother were ALWAYS babysitting. I got a job when I turned 16 so I could have money for my extras. I got my license and saved enough to buy a cheap car. The family car broke down and they took mine and that broke down as well. My mom was always living outside of her means. She would shop til she dropped and then tell us to tell the bill collectors she wasn't home. She even put me in a private school thru a scholarship which I hated because everyone was rich and would pull up to school in mercedes and BMW's while I was pulling up in the family clunker.

Anyway, I got out as soon as I could. I worked from the time I was 16 and went to school. I had DD at 20 and still worked and went to school. Meanwhile, I was always bringing money to my siblings and helping out the family. My stepdad was old enough to be my grandfather and was still busting his butt to keep up with my irresponsible mother. One day, she decides to move to Tx. Se took the youngest two who were 7 and 9, leaving behind the three others who were 11, 12, 13. My stepbrother moved back in to help out. About a year later my stepdad had a stroke and was never the same. My mother came and took everyone back with her to TX. Including my stepdad. Now she had remarried and brought my stepdad who worshipped the ground she walked on back to the house with her and her new husband who turned out to be a complete loser. My stepfather died within the next couple of years. My mother was still not working but got ss benefits for my underage siblings. but instead of living within her means. She rented this huge house and still couldn't pay bills. I would call and the phone would be off, they would tell me the gas was off, no lights etc. I went to visit once and my brother who is blind as a bat, was holding his glasses because the parts that go over your ears had broken off. I will forever remember that moment. I immediately grabbed the phone book and found a place to bring him to get him glasses. I wound up getting him contacts and I will never forget the look of complete gratitude when he put them in. I think he was 11 at the time. Anyway, there so are many more examples I could give.

My mom and siblings moved back here when I got married in 99. I found out later my mother had been kicked out of her house and my brother had won a computer for a school contest which my mom sold and used the money to rent a van to come here. I took my sisters in and my stepbrother took my brothers in and my mother went to live with a friend.

Fast forward: My mother got a job with great benefits and pay. Very flexible hours, she really liked it. She moved into a crappy apartment paying double what I paid for my apartment that was nice and bigger, her reasoning: it was on the nicer side of town. Well the job turned out to be more stressful than she thought so she quit. No income as all sibling are now 18. I isolated myself from her. We were going on vacation and I couldn't deal with hearing all the depressing my lights are being shut off, I have no money, etc. Finally, I call her and sure enough she starts to run the guilt trip how can I not even offer to help her, her gas is shut off, they have no hot water, she has to pay $800 dollars to have it turned back on. We get in this huge argument of course the fact that I was pregnant didn't help. She told me I was selfish and materalistic, because I drive a nice car and have a nice house. The phone call ended with me hysterical. I have ALWAYS been there for everyone, financially and otherwise. In spite of all this, I feel guilty because we are about to go on a vacation a spend a few $1000 while her gas is off. My Bf and DH are telling me I shouldn't feel guilty but I still do. We did go on vacation and mom and I patched things up. That was 4 years ago

Anyway, fast forward to the present. She eventually got another job a couple of years ago, again great job, benefits, great pay, flexiblity and had a nice inlaw apartment which she rented from a friend of mine. When I was pregnant with DD6 months, she decides one day that since all her kids are grown, she is moving back to TX. Out of the blue. And she quits her job and ups and moves. No job or plan. One of my DB lives there and his now pregnant wife works for an apartment complex. She got my mom an apartment and it was waiting for her when she got there. Well she left right after dd was born so she has been there about 6 months. No job, no income. I just talked to DB and he told me that his wife told him that the constable will be serving her papers because she hasn't paid rent. I called my dad because they keep in contact and she always asks him for money. He told me he had talked to her but she hadn't mentioned that but she told him her lights were about to be turned off, her car needed to be repaired and couldn't pass inspection, etc, etc. He said he couldn't keep sending her money. She runs a guilt trip because he didn't take care of me when I was young. I call her up and she acts like nothing is wrong but proceeds to tell me about her newest "business ventures" and tells me she is looking for sponsors and she wasn't asking me but if I was so inclined to send something.....Now if you see my ticker, you can see that we are going to WDW and once again are about to spend about $2.5 on the trip. The guilt is already settling. Everytime, I reach into my wallet, I think, I should be sending soemthing to help her. My dad says, if I were to send my whole vacation fund to her, she would just need more tomorrow. I understand logically that I should not feel guilty or bad for her, but in spite, I do!

The crazy part of all this is that she claims that God is helps her though everything and he's got it when she has no money. God told her to move to TX, God told her to this. I wish I could just cut myself off from caring.

If you have gotten to the end, thanks for "listening" I don't know what adive if any, can be given but feel free!
 
:grouphug:

It is hard to close your purse to your parents when they make you feel guilty. Do you realize that everythime you send her money you are enabling her? No matter how much you give her it will never be enough. If she is physically able to work then she needs to get a job and support herself.
 
:grouphug:

I am sorry for what you are going through. But, if you send her money, you will be enabling her. She needs help. She might get it if she runs out of places/people-like a rockbottom.

I'll keep you all in my prayers.


Ursula
 

There's an old adage that says "God helps those who help themselves". Lots of time God gets the credit/blame for things that are an individual's own making. Your mother needs to take some responsibility for herself and stop manipulating everybody around her.

BTW, if God is taking care of her as she says, you need to just let Him do it. His way would not include having her manipulate everybody she knows for money.

I know what you're dealing with is really, really hard. Try to keep in mind that her situation is not your making. She's dug her own hole - over and over apparently. You have responsibilities to your own family and to yourself, and you don't have to feel guilty about it. We'll be praying for you! :grouphug:
 
:grouphug: to you!

We have a few relatives who are similar, though not quite as bad, as your mother. We have learned to not get involved financially -- no loans, no splitting expenses, etc.

Don't feel guilty. You have done sooooo much for your family. And you and your DH have worked hard to have a stable life for your kids -- enjoy the fruits of your labors.

And don't let your mom make you feel guilty. If you're talking to her and she starts trying to lay a guilt trip just say, "We've worked hard for what we have," and then say you need to get off the phone. She'll get the hint that you aren't going to let her whine and mooch any longer.

If, at the holidays, you're feeling generous, get your mom a gift card for the grocery store or send some money directly to the electric company on her account. We've done this for relatives who never had enough because they wasted what they had.
 
Your first responsibility these days is to your immediate family...*your* children, your *husband*. Anything you take out of your pocket and give to your mother is money and resources that you are taking away from your own children. Your mother is as addicted to her irreponsibility as an addict is to drugs or an alcoholic is to booze. Harsh words, but she is a leech and will suck you dry, emotionally and monetarily.

I like the previous posters' advice.

When you are on the phone with her, and she starts in on her broken-record/schtick, say "Oops, gotta go. Talk with you later." and hang up.
Send money directly to her creditors if you wish - electric company, gas company. Do NOT give her cash, she'll just blow it.
When she starts in on "God told ME..." you could always reply
"In the Good Book...
It says that we are supposed to be good stewards of our resources."
It says Honor Thy Father and Mother" *not* "Let parents squander children's resources."
It says Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." Have you paid your bills today, Mom?"

Three words...
Just Say NO.

agnes!
 
I think you have gotten great caring advice already above. Sorry you have to go through this over and over. :grouphug:
 
tiff211 said:
My dad says, if I were to send my whole vacation fund to her, she would just need more tomorrow. !

This is a very true statement.

Please don't send your mother another dime. She may have to live in a homeless shelter to realize how she has to help herself.

Please enjoy your trip.
 
I totally agree with the advice you have gotten with other posters, and since I too have a financially irresponsible mother, I can totally relate. My mom and stepdad have lost two houses to foreclosure in the past 3 years. My mom blames everyone but herself. As soon as she gets money- she blows it. Throughout high school I had to explain to my friends why the phone was shut off, or mom didn't pay the power bill.

It takes a STRONG person to stop enabling!! And it is SO hard when it's your parents, I know! Moms can work that guilt thing, can't they? But you are doing her NO favors by sending her money, and she doesn't appreciate it. When she calls, just tell her that you and DH work for everything you have, and suggest she try doing the same.

You sound like a great daughter and sibling!!! DO NOT let her manipulate you into feeling guilty for working hard to do what you need to do for your family!!! You deserve it! She'll just have to grow up at some point.
 
You need a good therapist to help you get over the guilt. Your Mom needed some tough love a long time ago. It is time for you to take care of yourself and your family. You've given her enough handouts.
 
Thanks for all the encouraging words, I know she is a professional guilt tripper. I will probably just avoid her until we go on vacation as bad as that sounds! :guilty:
 
tiff211 said:
Thanks for all the encouraging words, I know she is a professional guilt tripper. I will probably just avoid her until we go on vacation as bad as that sounds! :guilty:

That doesn't sound bad!! It sounds like self-preservation! And that is a good thing! You have to take care of yourself so you can take care of those around you! I think avoiding her for while might just be what you need.
 
A very good friend of mine has parents who are almost as bad. They started off okay, at least the dad was more or less normal, he worked 60+ hours a week as a CPA, mom was a SAHM, always had an excuse not to work, even once the kids were in school there was always some reason why she couldn't get a part time job. She can't drive (she has panic attacks) and she won't find work to do out of the home (like babysitting, for example). But since the dad was working, it wasn't too bad, and they scraped by.

Then the dad has a stroke, he recovers but can't handle 60 hours a week anymore. The firm had to let him go, they needed someone that could work the hours. The company was VERY generous (I think they felt really bad about the whole thing) and gave him 12 months severance and access to all sorts of job hunting resorces. They blew through the money in less than a year, he didn't do a SINGLE thing to find another job. He is now suffering from depresion and social angsiety (sp?) disorder, refuses to look for work or file for disability, or even seek treatment for his mental illnesses. Mom also refuses to work, even though the youngest is a senior in highschool. Says her oldest daughter (my friends older sister) now needs her to care for the sister's baby daughter (yet she couldn't babysit for the last 20 years to bring in extra income?) while sister is at work.

My friend had to move back home to help her parents make the mortgage, she was terrified that they'd stop paying it when they only have 2 years left before they own it free and clear. Her parents have no retirement savings, no income, no HEALTH BEINIFITS (with a minor still at home!) debt up to their eyeballs, and a brillant, tallented 17 year old with no college fund. Fortunatly she's worked for the last two years and has enough to pay for community college, and since she was inducted into the NHS, she has a good chance for scholerships and grants (at least her parents lack of income helps here!). I swear the girl is the only sane one in this family!

I told my friend that once the house is paid off, and her younger sister is out of the house, she needs to cut her parents off, that she is only enabling them and she isn't helping, just delaying the inevitable. Plus she's got financial problems of her own (she started to copy her parents bad financial habits, she is just started to dig her way out) and can't afford to help them much as it is. In the past she's helped them from everything from paying utility bills to almsot soley paying for her sisters 2 weddings to a wealthy man from Europe (who said it was the bride's family's responsiblity to pay for the weddings). Yup, two weddings, one in the US and the other in England. The marriage lasted 1 month, it was legally anuled and they are working on the Catholic Church to get it anuled there too. The older sister is now married again with a 2 month old infant, the one the mom now has to babysit for so she "can't find a job right now".

My friend is engaged and wants to get married next year, and her fiance doesn't make much either. But she just keeps saying "They are my parents and I MUST help them". She is so tired of their bad decisions and their refusal to get help for the dad's depresion and other issues, but she just can't say "no" to them.

Please, I know it's hard, but don't be like my friend. Your mother will suck you dry if you let her. You wouldn't buy a drunk a bottle of alcohol, you wouldn't give money to a drug addict to buy drugs. Don't give your mother her "fix", either.
 
Unfortunately, your mom's childhood abuse is the reason for her behavior. And, her behavior won't change without serious intervention (religious or professional therapy). Also, as much as I would love to give you advice, I know that all of our advice will not change what you feel in your heart - responsibility. I just said a prayer for you both.
 
tiff211 said:
Thanks for all the encouraging words, I know she is a professional guilt tripper. I will probably just avoid her until we go on vacation as bad as that sounds! :guilty:

That doesn't sound bad at all. It is the very reason for caller ID and voice mail. If she has something very important to tell you she can leave it in a vm. You can call her back when you feel up to. If you starts complaining about money they politely say you have to go then hang up.
 
tiff211 said:
Thanks for all the encouraging words, I know she is a professional guilt tripper. I will probably just avoid her until we go on vacation as bad as that sounds! :guilty:


That's probably the best thing you can do for her. Like the other posters' said, you are just enabling her to keep the status quo if you keep giving her money. Be happy with yourself. Do not listen to your mother when she tries to make you feel bad. It is your money that you earned. You can do with it what you please. Take all the vacations you want and try not to feel guilty.
 












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