My FP+ Park Strategy WILL SAVE ME ALMOST $20,000!!!

[MrInfinity]

$109 hotel cost per day? $43 per ride? 28 days? "Waste" time on a boat ride at WDW? I have to wonder where you are getting your numbers from or why you feel compelled to attack a thread because it doesn't appeal to your sense of direction. Honestly, from your response it seems like you stand to benefit from my exercise the most because it sounds like you are arguing one has to spend most of the day in a park to derive any benefit. But thanks for the heads up, I'm sure the mods have noted your intentions as well.

What are you talking about? If I am not mistaken, you are making the case that one can save money and increase utility by staying 28 days instead of 7. Thereby spending less time in line, and using the time left over (which is most of the day) to do some other activity which is worth more to you than riding an incremental number of rides while at the parks. I said I was going to see what conclusion you came to. I am skeptical, but I concede that you could demonstrate a plan that does indeed work for you. I even noted your first day as already pretty workable and successful at accomplishing a lot in a little time. I don't see where you'll take it from there, but I'm following the thread because the question you raise of "how to maximize rides / minimize waits" is a valid exercise that is in the back of everyone's mind.

Think about it. One line of thought is that one should stay open to close. Because you're paying per day, and any time spent eating, going to the bathroom or swimming are things you could do at home and so should be avoided, thereby maximizing rides in the least days, because days cost money. You are taking the opposite approach, and saying to maximize days, to only ride rides via FP+. I think what you're going to run into, is that people don't have an unlimited supply of days. Days cost money, and they cost time. So while in an ideal world, one would go every day of the year to maximize his AP and Fast Passes, that is not functional. So the real answer is somewhere in between. I'm truly curious to see if you make a case successfully for such a long stay being more cost effective than a stay 1/2 or 1/4 as long.

 

[Laketravis]

..I visited (on average) 15 attractions per day via 6 day park hoppers. In other words, I visited 90 attractions, over just 6 days, costing me $4.40 per attraction..

Rather than attack someone else's thread, you should start a thread explaining exactly how you accomplished that. A lot of people would find that useful and would want to know.



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[Laketravis]

If I am not mistaken, you are making the case that one can save money and increase utility by staying 28 days instead of 7.

You are mistaken. Read the other thread.

I am skeptical.

You're skeptical that anyone could use FP+ to their advantage without having to spend most of the day in the park and derive the same enjoyment while spending less? Interesting.

I concede that you could demonstrate a plan that does indeed work for you.

Awesome.

I'm following the thread because the question you raise of "how to maximize rides / minimize waits" is a valid exercise that is in the back of everyone's mind.

Then why try to derail it or have it closed?

 

[Cormoran]

LT you're close to 7,400 views. I think there are an awful lot of people that are interested in this thread despite the campagn to kill it by having it removed from the theme park strategy forum

 

[MrInfinity]

You are mistaken. Read the other thread.

Then why try to derail it or have it closed?

Are you mixing me up with someone else? I have not tried to derail it, find it an interesting read (else I wouldn't be here), and have never even hinted that it be closed. I've only just come out to the forums this morning, after having posted in your thread last night that I thought your first day was indeed quite workable and efficient. I am skeptical you can demonstrate the long term feasibility of saving money by staying longer, but that in no way detracts from my opinion that you should be able to express your theory.

 

[cakebaker]

LT you're close to 7,400 views. I think there are an awful lot of people that are interested in this thread despite the campagn to kill it by having it removed from the theme park strategy forum

Campaign? Just because someone challenges his theories doesn't make it a campaign to have the thread moved or shut down. You can't expect to post a theory, explain how it's going to work and not expect to be questioned on the details.

 

[Laketravis]

It's a shame that illustrating how a family on a budget can use FP+ to it's advantage and experience much of what WDW has to offer while even supplementing their vacation(s) with additional Orlando venues is met with such hostility from a small yet highly vocal number of posters.

What is wrong with including a 3-star condo for $244 a week as part of that strategy? What is wrong with pointing out the savings of eating off-site? What is wrong with showing how the initial cost of AP's can be offset over the year by additional savings and afford that family the opportunity to perhaps make additional visits a reality? What is wrong with showing just how much can be accomplished in a park in a short period of time? What is wrong with including boat and monorail ride times as part of the experience? What is wrong with showing real examples (not theories) of how to accomplish that?

I don't see anything wrong with that at all. What I do see as wrong is bashing the attempt rather than contribute to it's usefulness or insinuate that it's part of some cagey plan to bankrupt Disney. If you've got a better plan, then post it.


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[cakebaker]

It's a shame that illustrating how a family on a budget can experience much of what WDW has to offer while even supplementing their vacation(s) with additional Orlando venues is met with such hostility from a small yet highly vocal number of posters.

What is wrong with including a 3-star condo for $244 a week as part of that strategy? What is wrong with pointing out the savings of eating off-site? What is wrong with showing how the initial cost of AP's can be offset over the year by additional savings and afford that family the opportunity to perhaps make additional visits a reality? What is wrong with showing real examples (not theories) of how to accomplish that?

I don't see anything wrong with that at all. What I do see as wrong is bashing the attempt rather than contribute to it's usefulness.


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So when someone sees what they think to be an issue with your plan and they question it, that's bashing? You don't to get to post whatever theories you want without anyone daring to question the validity.

The first thing I'd take issue with is your claim this is trying to somehow help people on a budget- a month in Florida, spending upwards of over 9k a year (not including travel expenses) is not a budget friendly plan. In order to save $20k, you'd have to have the ability to spend 45K in vacations over 5 years and the ability to take off for a month to vacation. That's not realistic for most people.

 

[Cormoran]

Campaign? Just because someone challenges his theories doesn't make it a campaign to have the thread moved or shut down. You can't expect to post a theory, explain how it's going to work and not expect to be questioned on the details.

Someone not only challenged his theory, but reported it for not belonging on the theme park attraction and strategy thread. Consequently the thread was moved. So yes, I feel there is a campaign to shut down any thread that doesn't support FP+ as a great tool.
But what I really find interesting is the amount of views and replies this thread and others like them generate. Obviously, there are more than a couple of people who are not not happy with FP+.

 

[Laketravis]

So when someone sees what they think to be an issue with your plan and they question it, that's bashing? You don't to get to post whatever theories you want without anyone daring to question the validity..

Give me a moment to look over your previous posts to see if you actually asked a legitimate question rather than make insinuating comments........... nope, couldn't find one.

The first thing I'd take issue with is your claim this is trying to somehow help people on a budget- a month in Florida, spending upwards of over 9k a year (not including travel expenses) is not a budget friendly plan. In order to save $20k, you'd have to have the ability to spend 45K in vacations over 5 years and the ability to take off for a month to vacation. That's not realistic for most people.

Did I claim everyone would save $20K? Hold on, let me check.....nope, looks like I said that it would save ME that much. Even the title says ME not YOU. It's the concept that realizes the savings, not the dollar amounts. Individual results will certainly vary, but substantial savings are realistic for most people without sacrificing the quality of their experience.

If you honestly feel that you have a legitimate reason to "question the validity" then you certainly must have a basis to be drawing that conclusion from. So rather than continue to hurl attacks, why don't you simply post your plan for all to see?




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[Toad_Passenger]

But what I really find interesting is the amount of views and replies this thread and others like them generate. Obviously, there are more than a couple of people who are not not happy with FP+.

Or we just like watching a good ole' Dis FP+ argument.

 

[Laketravis]

Or we just like watching a good ole' Dis FP+ argument.

The irony is this was to show how FP+ could be an advantage yet some are intent into turning it into exactly that - an argument.

 

[cakebaker]

Someone not only challenged his theory, but reported it for not belonging on the theme park attraction and strategy thread. Consequently the thread was moved. So yes, I feel there is a campaign to shut down any thread that doesn't support FP+ as a great tool.
But what I really find interesting is the amount of views and replies this thread and others like them generate. Obviously, there are more than a couple of people who are not not happy with FP+.

That's up to moderators- just reporting a thread won't get it moved. The moderators decide what should be where and how they do their job is none of my business. They make lots of choices I wouldn't make, but I don't have their job and we're not even supposed to comment on their moderating choices. So, I try not to.

I don't think we can infer by the number of views how unhappy anyone is or isn't. It could just be the train wreck theory in action.

 

[SmithSmith]

And you know this how?

Seems to me the OP is still including Disney in his plans, maybe just not in the way a number of people consider to be the "right" way.

I don't know this. That's why I used the words "seems to me", in other words, I was speculating.

I don't care where Lake travels to while on vacation. I don't believe there's a "right" way. That wasn't the point of my posts. My point was to give reasons why someone like myself, or the mods of this board, don't see any strategy in this thread. If you see it, then that's fine, but I don't, and perhaps that is why it was moved.

 

[SmithSmith]

Rather than attack someone else's thread, you should start a thread explaining exactly how you accomplished that. A lot of people would find that useful and would want to know.



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Attacking your thread?! Someone sure likes to play the victim...

It's funny, I've posted my ride schedule before complete with dates, times, and wait times, but minus shows, exhibits, etc, although I could easily add those. Let's just say it went ignored. At one time, I even personally offered it to you, you didn't accept. There have also been many times that I've posted an overview of what types of attractions I like to do at certain times of day. I have even helped many people on the boards by arranging park itineraries and suggesting improvements. In other words, I don't just chat about the FP+ all the time.

 

[SmithSmith]

LT you're close to 7,400 views. I think there are an awful lot of people that are interested in this thread despite the campagn to kill it by having it removed from the theme park strategy forum

You don't think there's 20,000 reasons this thread has attracted 7,400 views?!

Let's compare it to LTs other thread, it has 1295 views or 323 less views as "Should tomorrow land speedway be the next to go?", which was posted just 2 hours before his. I think your answer for why this thread is more popular is all because of a flashy title, nothing more.

 

[Laketravis]

I visited (on average) 15 attractions per day via 6 day park hoppers. In other words, I visited 90 attractions, over just 6 days, costing me $4.40 per attraction..

Rather than attack someone else's thread, you should start a thread explaining exactly how you accomplished that. A lot of people would find that useful and would want to know.

I've posted my ride schedule before complete with dates, times, and wait times, but minus shows, exhibits, etc, although I could easily add those.

Let's see it, as well as costs to determine how you arrived at $4.40 per attraction - all of the cost, not just ticket prices.

I have even helped many people on the boards by arranging park itineraries and suggesting improvements. In other words, I don't just chat about the FP+ all the time.

On these boards? Strange - a post search doesn't bring any of that up, just a lot of sarcastic criticism. Maybe it would help with the perception of your comments if you could bring all of that helpful advice and cost-saving park touring strategies into a helpful thread?