MWY Is An 18.9% Cost Increase! Am I Doing The Math Correctly?

[OLT2004]

18.9% Price Increase!
Am I doing my MWY math correctly?

266 5 Day MYW Premium Ticket (3 Options?)
35 To Add No Expiration
301 Plus Tax
20 Assumes 6.5%
$321

I paid $1080(Total) for 4 Adult 5 Day Hoppers With 4 Pluses to Ticketmania.com in 6/24
Disney Quest is not an eligible Plus - I got 4 Pluses

You must now pay $1284 for almost the same ticket?
You get Disney Quest as a Plus Choice - but you only get 3 Pluses.

Am I doing my math correctly?
That is a Whooping 18.9 % Increase!!!

 

[PolyHereWeCome]

Not familiar with the 5-day prices, but for the 4-day park hoppers, we came to the same conclusion.

So, today I bought our 4-day hopper+ from Hotwire for $208.96 (adult) and $167.75 (children). That's $753.42 for our family of 2a and 2c.

MWY would have been:
197.03 x2 (4 day adult includes tax) + 157.62 x2 (4 day child incl. tax)
+ additional $35 + tax per person) = $858.40

$104.98 MORE or 13.9% increase AND THEY EXPIRE!!!!

It's a 22.4% INCREASE IF WE WANTED TO PUT BACK THE NO EXPIRATION!!!

 

[PolyHereWeCome]

Ooops, forgot to mention that in all fairness, we should be comparing discounted tickets to discounted tickets. Assuming discount brokers will be able to sell MWY, I'd expect the price gap to close. But, at least in our case, the price will still be higher.

Good luck to everyone in making your decision. Don't buy all the hype about new and great tickets. Definitely worth running the numbers.

 

[poohj80]

First...don't tax the $35 no expiration fee.

Second, the new passes are set up to offer the greatest discounts when buying the most days. If you travel to WDW often, try calculating the cost of a 10 day MYW ticket then divide it by 2 because what you really have is two 5 day passes.

 

[disneysteve]

the new passes are set up to offer the greatest discounts when buying the most days. If you travel to WDW often, try calculating the cost of a 10 day MYW ticket then divide it by 2 because what you really have is two 5 day passes.

This is exactly what I did. We will save $558 on our next 2 trips by buying non-expiring 10-day hoppers instead of the current 5-day hoppers.

 

[zippehsmom]

Disney Steve, that's the conclusion I came to. We were going to purchase 7 day PHP's from Hotwire for close to $1,700 (4 adult, 2 child). Well, with the new MYW, we're gonna get 10 day + hopping and save close to $300. If I bought 7 day PHP's from Disney we would save even more.

We still have plus options from existing PH's. This new pricing definitely benefits those that plan on staying longer and those that plan in advance.

zippehsmom

 

[LIFERBABE]

First...don't tax the $35 no expiration fee.

Second, the new passes are set up to offer the greatest discounts when buying the most days. If you travel to WDW often, try calculating the cost of a 10 day MYW ticket then divide it by 2 because what you really have is two 5 day passes.

Why wouldnt you tax the no expiration fee? Mousesavers did. If you dont that is still only $2-$3 saved.

I did the math yesterday and if I knew how to post it without the columns getting all smooshed I would. Yes this is a very large increase and the cost of adding DQ to the options (and then some) is built into the passes.

If Disney had just increased the cost of PHP by this much, people would be picketing the front gates! Instead they give you a choice to not take options so you feel in control (which will be great for some) or buy a $414.29 ticket (10 day Hopper Premium No expiration Adult).
Yes we expect ticket prices to increase, but this is 4-5 times a normal increase if you want to purchase the equivalent of a Park Hopper Plus.

Yes this will work for many people and there is alot of flexibility, but let's not kid ourselves, this is a very large price increase when compared with the PHP's.

My comparison was based on Hotwire prices (the lowest even compared to Shades of Green) and I showed a total of $1090.82 for 2 Adult and 2 child 7 day PHP's.

Also the cost per day between the HSC 7 day PHP and the MYW 10 day Prem. NoExp. is: $43.27 per day for HSC and $41.43 for MYW so you are spending an additional $111.39 upfront to save $1.84 per day on your next trip.

 

[disneysteve]

If Disney had just increased the cost of PHP by this much, people would be picketing the front gates! Instead they give you a choice to not take options so you feel in control (which will be great for some)

The point is that they didn't just increase the PHP prices. They created a new ticket system that will save some people a lot of money, work out about the same for other people and, unfortunately, increase the cost for some people. Personally, I think that was a better way to go than just increasing the cost for everyone. But I realize my view is biased because I'm in the group that will save hundreds of dollars with the new tickets.

The bottom line is that anyone who knows they will be going back to Disney in the future can probably save money by buying a longer ticket and saving unused days for future trips. Also, we no longer have to buy and pay for options that we won't use.

 

[crisi]

If you are only buying five days, why are you buying no expiration? It will work for some people, but think this one through carefully. I think for most people, no expiration doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you are buying a small number of days....i.e. are you going to spend less than five days in the parks this trip? If you are only going to spend three - would a three day no expiration work better? I suppose there is the argument that you want "insurance" in case someone gets sick or you change your plans - Disney is now charging you for that insurance.

Frankly, the no expiration option on the former hoppers was a fantastic deal - you didn't pay any premium for them over the UPH - they often came out cheaper! That never made much sense. We never used the "feature" of no expiration so I like not having to pay for it. On the other hand, we find hopping valuable enough to pay for it.

 

[disneysteve]

If you are only buying five days, why are you buying no expiration? If you are only going to spend three - would a three day no expiration work better?

The answer is it depends if you plan to return in the future. If you do, then you can save money by buying the maximum number of days non-expiring. Use as many as you want this trip and save the rest for a later trip. If, however, this is a one-time visit and you don't expect to come back, then just buy the number of days you need and don't pay for the non-expiration. Either way, it may be cheaper than the current system. For example, a 5-day hopper is now $265.19. A new 5-day hopper is $242.83, a savings of $22.36 per person.

 

[Alicia Gist]

We were considering buying an annual pass and going this year in July. In 2006 we would go in June. Do you think a 10 day non-expiring MYW would be a better deal?

 

[LIFERBABE]

Disneysteve are you quoting Disney Prices or discount seller prices?

Right now you can purchase a 5+2 PHP from HSC for $248.27. It will cost $320.57 to get the equivalent 5+3 from MYW. Granted the MYW includes DQ.

The MYW 5 day with Hopper will be $235.37. This price does not include plus options or the no expiration option.

 

[LovePug]

We were considering buying an annual pass and going this year in July. In 2006 we would go in June. Do you think a 10 day non-expiring MYW would be a better deal?

Everything depends on how you use your tickets. We had APs this year, let them expire, and were planning on buying new APs in June to cover our June '05 and December '05 trips (10 days in the parks total). We've decided to buy the 10 day base ticket with the no expiration option instead. It will save us $70/ticket. We don't hop so we aren't going to pay for that feature. For us, it is cheaper to buy the new tickets rather than buying APs again.

 

[tracy51]

Gah, I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this but here goes....

How fair is it to compare Disney full-price or even advance price for the new MYW tickets to DISCOUNT vendor prices for the current park hopper passes? Of course you're going to see a big increase in price if you compare like that. If you compare Disney's pricing on the current park hopper tickets to the discount vendors pricing there is a big difference which is why alot of people buy through them. Personally, I'd be more interested in a comparison of the equivalent Disney pricing of the current park hopper passes to the MYW tickets. I think that would tell us more. It's doubtful that the discount vendors are going to be unable to sell the MYW tickets or that they will sell them for the same price as Disney.

I'm not trying to flame anyone. Right now all of us are a bit confused on these new tickets and I haven't seen pricing from any of the discount vendors for the new tickets yet. I just think that for a comparison to be fair the basis needs to be level and comparing Disney full price to discount vendor price isn't.

 

[swilphil]

First...don't tax the $35 no expiration fee.

Second, the new passes are set up to offer the greatest discounts when buying the most days. If you travel to WDW often, try calculating the cost of a 10 day MYW ticket then divide it by 2 because what you really have is two 5 day passes.

Pooh--Great idea about buying a 10 day non-expire ticket and dividing it in two. That would save us over $300! And that's not knowing how much the tickets will increase in price over the next few years. My only concern is we will end up using 6 days this trip instead of 5 (we're going 5 nights, but 6 days and flying out late), and we have no idea how many days we will go to the parks on our next trip. We travel with extended family, so we could end up there a full week or we could end up going only 4 days. We might be needing to buy a 2 day Park Hopper at some point to round out our number of days. Plus our youngest is going to be only two on this trip, but he will turn 3 by our next trip. Then there's the possibility on subsequent trips that we may want to buy a package (to get the dining option). Would we still have to buy something like a one day ticket in order to get that, or would the dining
option be for the number of days we have the room? Decisions, decisions!

Our current plan was to buy a 6 day MYW ticket with the parkhopping option. It only costs ONE MORE DOLLAR to buy the 6 day ticket instead of 5 day ticket in advance.

 

[disneysteve]

Disneysteve are you quoting Disney Prices or discount seller prices?

I'm quoting prices from mousesavers.com which I believe are Disney prices.

 

[OLT2004]

The sites I have looked at only go to 7 day tickets.
Where did you find the 10 day tickets?

Do any discounters - ticketmania, hot wire, etc. etc. have prices on the MYW passes yet??

Thanks!

 

[poohj80]

The sites I have looked at only go to 7 day tickets.
Where did you find the 10 day tickets?

Mousesavers:

http://www.mousesavers.com/wdwticketprices.html#myw

 

[bujuni]

I m so confused

 

[zippehsmom]

I think that for the people that did not park hop, or use plus options, and did not need the no expiration ticket, this works out better. Yea, it's better for some, but worse for others.

We've always used our Park days and had tons of pluses left. so for us this is a good deal.

Good point about comparing disney PHP prices for disney MYW passes. Hopefully, places like HSC will be able to sell MYW passes. If they do that would be great.

I know for use having 10 park days instead of 7 for less money works out to be a good deal. We had planned on using all 7 days prior to this new ticketing structure. Now even if we don't use one day on the 10 day pass, I have still saved money.

So, basically I think it boils down to how you vacation at Disney.

zippehsmom