Multi DVC Contract Question

[Coach81]

Ok so if a person owns 150 pts in SSR, and then adds on 50 more points for AKL, how does the 11 month window work for them and their points for AKL?

Let's just say SSR UY= FEB, and AKL UY = DEC.

So in 2009 I want to rent a 1 BR in AKL for a week in the 11th month window. Would I be able to make reservations even though I have only 50 points at that time, but 150 more coming next Feb???

Hope you guys can understand my question.

 

[Deb & Bill]

You can only use your home resort points at that resort at 11 months. Non-home resort points are only good for 7 months and less.

In other words, your SSR points are only good at SSR from 11-7 months. Your AKV points are only good at AKV from 11-7 months. Once you hit seven months, you can use points from either home resort for any DVC resort.

When you make a reservation you have to have the points you need for the reservation when the reservation starts. So if you go to AKV in Nov 09, you would be using your Dec 08 points to make that reservation. If you need more than you have, you could borrow from your Dec 09 points or use points that you banked from Dec 07.

Your SSR points are worthless at AKV at 11 months. They can't be used there. Only SSR.

By the way, if you get points at AKV, you'd have to have at least 160 more through Disney to get a new use year. If you added on, you would have the same use year as your SSR points. So your 50 point add-on would have a UY of Feb, just like the SSR.

 

[LisaS]

Ok so if a person owns 150 pts in SSR, and then adds on 50 more points for AKL, how does the 11 month window work for them and their points for AKL?

Let's just say SSR UY= FEB, and AKL UY = DEC.

So in 2009 I want to rent a 1 BR in AKL for a week in the 11th month window. Would I be able to make reservations even though I have only 50 points at that time, but 150 more coming next Feb???

Hope you guys can understand my question.

First of all, your UY has nothing to do with the 11-month window. Everyone can book at their home resort 11 months prior to check-out, using points from that resort, regardless of their UY and dates of stay. (I'm not sure if you had other reasons for specifying different UYs for SSR and AKV in your example?) Also if you own at SSR and add on 50 pts at AKV, Disney will only sell you the same UY so you would be purchasing a Feb UY at AKV and it would be set up as an "add-on" contract to your SSR master contract.

So in your example, you would have two home resorts: SSR and AKV. You can make a reservation at either of your home resorts 11 months prior to your check-out date using points from that resort. So if you wanted to make a reservation at AKV for May 2008, you could book it in June 2007 using your 50 AKV points. If the reservation required more than 50 points, then at 7 months out, (Oct 2007) you could try to add additional nights to your AKV reservation using SSR points, subject to availability.

You could also bank and/or borrow AKV points to give you up to 150 AKV points to use at the 11-month window at AKV. In the example above, let's say you have a Feb UY at AKV (the same as your SSR master). A trip in May 2008 falls into your 2008 UY (Feb 1, 08 - Jan 31, 09) so you need to have enough points in your 2008 UY to pay for that trip. You get 50 AKV points per UY so you could use your 50 2008 points, you could bank your 50 2007 UY points into your '08 UY (giving you 100 pts total) and you could also borrow your 50 2009 UY points into your '08 UY, giving you a grand total of 150 AKV points. Of course if you do this, you can only stay at AKV every 3rd year (or every other year if 100 points is sufficient for your reservation).

Hope this helps!

 

[Coach81]

Ok so let's say that I buy 150 at SSR, and then add on 50 for AKL. I bank all of those points next year, would I be able to use all (200) points at the 11 month window to reserve at AK?

 

[LisaS]

Ok so let's say that I buy 150 at SSR, and then add on 50 for AKL. I bank all of those points next year, would I be able to use all (200) points at the 11 month window to reserve at AK?

Banking your points does not change their identity. AKV points remain AKV points (and SSR points remain SSR points) when they are banked or borrowed.

The key concept is this: in the 11-month window, you can book at your home resort using points from that resort and only that resort. It doesn't matter if they are banked points, current points or borrowed points.

 

[LisaS]

Just a question: you appear to be very interested in booking AKV at the 11-month window. So why are you buying SSR instead? Why not purchase AKV if that's where you want to stay?

 

[Coach81]

Just using AKV & SSR as examples. You've answered my questions. Thanks for the info Lisa!

 

[rmaiers]

Given all the info in this thread, then what is the advantage to owning at more than one DVC resort?

BTW - I found this thread to be most informative... I always assumed that if I owned 300 at SSR (which I do) and bought 50 pts anywhere else, that I could have 11-month bookings at both properities.

 

[1000th happy haunt]

Given all the info in this thread, then what is the advantage to owning at more than one DVC resort?

BTW - I found this thread to be most informative... I always assumed that if I owned 300 at SSR (which I do) and bought 50 pts anywhere else, that I could have 11-month bookings at both properities.

You DO have the 11-month booking window at both properties, but only for the points you own at those properties. So you can use 300 SSR points at 11 months at SSR (with banking and borrowing, it can be up to 900 points), and you can use 50 points (with banking and borrowing, it can be up to 150 points) at the 11-month window at the other property you own.

The advantage of owning multiple properties is that you CAN use the 11 month window at multiple properties. We own 300 OKW points and 100 VWL points. So we can actually book a 1-bedroom unit at VWL for a week every other year in early December.

 

[LisaS]

Given all the info in this thread, then what is the advantage to owning at more than one DVC resort?

BTW - I found this thread to be most informative... I always assumed that if I owned 300 at SSR (which I do) and bought 50 pts anywhere else, that I could have 11-month bookings at both properities.

The advantage is that by owning at more than one resort, you get the 11-month booking advantage there with the points that you own there. So the trick is to figure out how many points you would need to buy at that second (or third, LOL) resort.

For example, when we decided to add on at VWL, we looked at the point charts to see how many points are required to book 6 nights in a 1BR at VWL at the times of year we would want to go. I divided that number by 2 (since we plan to stay there every other year and I'll bank my points every other year) and bought that number of points. So now, whether I want to book a stay at BWV, VWL or soon at AKV, I can do so 11 months out, up to the number of points I own at each resort, or twice that number by banking them every other year.

 

[Caskbill]

Just to clarify an earlier point. If you have two contracts with different use years, they are totally separate memberships. It is not a master contract with an add-on contract. It would be two totally separate master contracts, each having it's own membership number.

Each contract would be managed totally independently of the other.

On the other hand, having a master contract with add-on contracts has advantages in that points can be combined at 7-months to make reservations at any resort. Also, points are combined when determining how many points can be banked during the 50% and 25% windows.

Unless use year is a real issue due to possible reservation cancellations, it's best to have only one membership number, and all contracts under that number.

 

[Coach81]

Caskbill, once I am a member, can I just request an add-on from Disney (AKV atm) for whatever points I need, keep the same UY, and membership number?

 

[Chuck S]

Caskbill, once I am a member, can I just request an add-on from Disney (AKV atm) for whatever points I need, keep the same UY, and membership number?

Yes, in fact when you buy an add-on from Disney they won't sell you a different use year. To get a different use year you'd need to buy a whole "new contract" of 150pts or 160pts, whatever the latest minimum purchase is.