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You're right. I honestly, am not trying to play games here- I was thinking more along the lines of 1. giving him an extra day- me showing that I am trying. 2. curtosy to the kids and him in reguards to the traffic and festivities and 3.the communication failure. That's all.
But you guys are right. Sorry. Dumb idea.

Disneychix- With JTB, you never know what he will do, the day he put me in jail was probably 100% because I did not have my atty with me and he knew he could get away with it- but it backfired on him- which he apoligized to me for. You just never know with this Judge.
Mulan
 
Please just do what your attorney tells you. I can't swear to it, but even this judge wouldn't put you in jail for doing what your attorney tells you to do. She knows the judge, the posters on this board do not. Do everything to the letter your attorney tells you to do. She may be wrong, but probably not.
 
Please just do what your attorney tells you. I can't swear to it, but even this judge wouldn't put you in jail for doing what your attorney tells you to do. She knows the judge, the posters on this board do not. Do everything to the letter your attorney tells you to do. She may be wrong, but probably not.

ok:thumbsup2 That's reassuring. ::yes::
Mulan
 
When are the children coming back to you, Mulan? I know you are really good about booking them with their counselor after longer visits with DAMM, but I would think in this case it would be especially important to do so quickly after they get home and before you go to court. Maybe they could provide an assessment of the impact of the events of the past few weeks on the kids?
 

Please just do what your attorney tells you. I can't swear to it, but even this judge wouldn't put you in jail for doing what your attorney tells you to do. She knows the judge, the posters on this board do not. Do everything to the letter your attorney tells you to do. She may be wrong, but probably not.

ITA! :thumbsup2 Even the most fruit loop judge has patterns. Your attorney know this. Please just follow your attorney's advice to the letter.
 
Please just do what your attorney tells you. I can't swear to it, but even this judge wouldn't put you in jail for doing what your attorney tells you to do. She knows the judge, the posters on this board do not. Do everything to the letter your attorney tells you to do. She may be wrong, but probably not.

I also agree with this!

Hey girl.. dont have much to add... everyone is has already said it all lol.
Just wanted to make sure you know that im thinking about you and the little ones.

I think id have to go with your attorney on this one. she knows the judge.
 
Please just do what your attorney tells you. I can't swear to it, but even this judge wouldn't put you in jail for doing what your attorney tells you to do. She knows the judge, the posters on this board do not. Do everything to the letter your attorney tells you to do. She may be wrong, but probably not.

:thumbsup2
 
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I thought Mulan said that if DAMM doesn't bring the kids to the half way point this Friday, the police will then intervene. If that is true then Mulan should send the kids on 7/4 and go to the half way point on 7/6. DAMM won't show up so the police will talk to DAMM who will say "We are doing every other week" just like what happened the other day. Mulan goes home and on 7/11, Mulan goes to the half way point. If DAMM doesn't bring the kids, wouldn't the police be able help Mulan because DAMM didn't bring the kids back like he was said he would. It would show to the judge that Mulan is following the order and DAMM lives by his own rules.
 
I thought Mulan said that if DAMM doesn't bring the kids to the half way point this Friday, the police will then intervene. If that is true then Mulan should send the kids on 7/4 and go to the half way point on 7/6. DAMM won't show up so the police will talk to DAMM who will say "We are doing every other week" just like what happened the other day. Mulan goes home and on 7/11, Mulan goes to the half way point. If DAMM doesn't bring the kids, wouldn't the police be able help Mulan because DAMM didn't bring the kids back like he was said he would. It would show to the judge that Mulan is following the order and DAMM lives by his own rules.

ITA!

Mulan have you heard anything from the other attorney yet?
 
I hope Attny in :( county can explain things one more time to your satisfaction. It just seems to me that listening to your attny is wise at this point.

DAMM has done anything he wants. He did not give you 30 days notice and kept the kids for a week. Once you have them in your arms, your attny (on your behalf) will be petitioning the court for a firmer arrangement. It is not unreasonable to WAIT until the court listens to the story to have further visitation.

I am a little unclear on why you send him a letter in addition to the attny..but more communication has got to be better than trying to GUESS what DAMM intends.

Praying for JTB to be just, fair, and to act in the best interest of your kids. I hope that JTB will help spell out everything so there is little room for interpretation. DAMM plays dumb to manipulate you and the kids. Praying for you to be stong, consistent, and smart about what you say.

Whatever choice you make about the 4th, stay strong ...quit second guessing yourself. Sometimes once a strategy is chosen, it has to play itself out...it's difficult to change in the middle.


OMG I still cannot believe he kept the kids. He really shows his colors sometimes...and then not letting you communicate with your kids...very abusive to the children.


How 'bout making a pile of notes for your kids...things you wanted to tell them while they were gone but couldn't 'cause the phone didn't reach them (try not to drag DAMM into it.) I'd love for anyone to write me short notes and put it in a jar, cup or basket...just little scaps of paper that indicate love.

examples:
  • Huggggs
  • I love you
  • the cat acted silly today..and i wanted to tell you about it
  • knock knock, who's there...me...me who?...me miss you!
  • I sat on your bed and thought about you...you're a great kid.
  • smile

I do hope he is planning on returning the kids this weekend.
 
...How 'bout making a pile of notes for your kids...things you wanted to tell them while they were gone but couldn't 'cause the phone didn't reach them (try not to drag DAMM into it.) I'd love for anyone to write me short notes and put it in a jar, cup or basket...just little scaps of paper that indicate love.

examples:
  • Huggggs
  • I love you
  • the cat acted silly today..and i wanted to tell you about it
  • knock knock, who's there...me...me who?...me miss you!
  • I sat on your bed and thought about you...you're a great kid.
  • smile

I do hope he is planning on returning the kids this weekend.

This just made me cry, I have been thinking just these same things since Friday night- oh how I miss them. :sad: I am trying to get things done around the house, I contacted my counselor today who is getting intouch with the Kentucky Bar Assoc and the Children's Law Center- she is appalled that my court papers meant nothing...so we'll see what comes.
I have talked with the Childrens Law Center before and couldn't get the children an atty (something about, if you have an atty then you can pay for your childrens atty:rotfl2: yeah right!) But, my counselor explained to them the situation and explained that I had an atty but the children in this case desperately need representation, they asked that I call and talk with them. So we'll see what comes....
I met with Atty #2 and she comfirmed atty #1 opinions- so guess I can't go wrong!:thumbsup2

My car has been acting up and it had well over 90,000 miles- I just made a good deal today and traded it for a good make and model with only 15,000 miles and got an excellent deal on my trade-in. I think I did well, because I went in with the attitude- I can walk outta here with my great car thats paid for- so you need to show me a deal I can't walk away from- plus when the first offer came I told the guy "that's not good enough, if you want my business" I sent him away 3 times and was about to walk out when I got my terms met. I feel so empowered today!:yay: DD and DS are gonna be so surprised, its the vehicle we have all been wanting for awhile now.:dance3:

Well, off to Karate class:yay: :yay:

Mulan
 
WOW girl a new car.. what a great path you have been on the last cpl of yrs! Dumped the loser hubby, got a new place, got an even better job and now a great deal on a new car!
You have some good karma working for you.
Its seems to be all slowly working out for you so lets all have faith in God that this deal with the kids will work out for you too!

Its insane how far you have come since those first days I found you on the first thread!

Some folks like to make derogatory comments on some things you do and the person they believe you to be, but I BELIEVE in karma and the power of prayer and if you really were the bad person some like to make you out to be then these great things that have been happening to you would have never have taken place!

Just keep on going there is more good things out there for you and the kiddos!

Saying prayers for you always,
Jenn
 
Mulan,
I know people that work at the Children's Law Center. Whatever they tell you, you can take it to the bank. They are excellent. A friend/ex-co worker of mine just started there and she and everyone else there are great and have an awesome reputation in this state. Hopefully, they will take your children's case. You really don't qualify because of your income, but I hope they make an exception. Good luck!
 
Just wanted to tell you how amazed I am at you. Negotiating until you got "your terms" on the car. I hope it takes you another 75,000 miles!!! Yes, the kids will be excited.


Sounds like you're on the right path with the lawyers...and I too hope that the folks will take the kids case!:thumbsup2

more prayers even as I write this. for your kids on this day and for July 14.

DID DAMM (or his spokesperson) ever tell you he was going to return the kids this Friday? Praying that's just a normal transition and not something the ::cop: are involved in.

So proud of empowered WOMEN everywher. Keep it up!:cool2:
 
I hope that they can help your kids.

I've been thinking about you because my son will be away at my mom & dad's house for a week next month. He has been going for 2 years. We still talk on the phone almost every night, and he misses us so much, even though he's with his grandma and spends all day with his friends. He's almost 8! It must be so hard for you to not be able to talk to your babies.

Congrats on the car!
 
Dang! I wouldn't want to be your sparring partner tonight! You go girl!

More power to you!
 
Dang! I wouldn't want to be your sparring partner tonight! You go girl!

More power to you!

Karate was awesome tonight. However, I'm not sparring yet :(. I feel I am ready, I asked Sensai tonight when and he said "very soon, you're coming along great. When you're a yellow belt you can spar" UGH! I have had 6 classes now and one lady I talked to said it took 3 months before she got her yellow belt! By the sound of it, I don't think Sensai will make me wait 2 months- gosh I sure hope not :faint: I am working hard at it- I've been going to the gym at least 2x a week plus each night, I have been doing situps and pushups just to get stronger. My mind is getting stronger and my focus, at some things at least...

I called the kids again tonight, no answer...I look at the stars and the moon and send them my good vibes and do the kissing hand and hope they too are doing the kissing hand. :sad: The house is so quiet- even the kitties are missing the kids- they just wallow me for attention!

Mulan
 
One thing that I do when my kids are with their dad or away. Like right now they are on vacation with their grammie. I go outside and blow bubbles to them. We all love bubbles and I even send them to my Grandma who I never met.

About 10 years ago when I moved away I gave my mom a bottle of bubbles and said when ever you miss me go outside and blow some bubbles..

I even have them in my car and blow them out the sun roof. It would usually end up.. We'd be blowing bubbles at the same time..

So when my kids go see X I stick a bottle of bubbles in their stuff. They may not blow them, but DS 6.5 knows that they are there and that mommy loves them...



Also you know the dryer sheets that you use? Well when I was in high school I was in the middle of Algebra class and I had this itch on my arm.. Turns out it was a forgoten dryer sheet. Well that day I needed some extra love. So I titled them love notes.. So when we do laundry we dont look for the dryer sheet. We fold the clothes as normal and you never know where one will show up. DD 3.5 loves to find them in her clothes. She says I love you to mommy..


So for me it is the simple things that no one really cares about that are special..
 
I met with Atty #2 and she comfirmed atty #1 opinions- so guess I can't go wrong!:thumbsup2
I am VERY happy to read this. It must be that your lawyers believe the he is NOT entitled by law to continued every other weekend visitation since he did not show up for his scheduled 5-week visitation. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you. REMEMBER ... don't tip your hand to him when you pick up the kids tomorrow!
 
...REMEMBER ... don't tip your hand to him when you pick up the kids tomorrow!

I SO agree with this. When you get the kids, just get them. No comments to him, do not allow him to get you to react. Simply smile politely and leave. You cannot afford to make him aware of anything that you've been doing. I can't imagine that he is so dumb that he can't figure out that you're going to react to this in court, but the less he knows up front, the better.

And be very careful what you say to the kids. You have no idea at this point what he's been saying to them. If I had to hazard a guess, he's probably told them that you didn't want them to come back, that you called and told him to keep them, etc. I'm sure he's filled their heads with all sorts of lies that you're going to have to deal with going forward. Do not let him see you get upset in any way if, for some reason, the kids are reluctant to go with you because of his behavior towards them. Just gather them up and get in the car.

Wishing you luck tomorrow.
 
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