MSNBC attacks Disney for its "no-fly" zone!

[DJ Disney Kid]

Do sporting venues still have the no-fly zones, or has that gone away? To me, it would seem those types of places and as sad as it is to think, WDW would be prime targets for terrorist acts, thus justifying the no-fly zone status.

As much as WDW seems like it would be a prime target for terrorism, I really don't think it would. Terrorists are out to hurt our economy, not our places of sentimental value. Destroying Cinderellas Castle sounds horrible ( especially to us nut jobs ), but its not going to hurt our food supply or transportation. The most positive thing that a terrorist would get from attacking WDW would be to hurt / kill alot of people, but in their eyes, why not kill alot of people and hurt our economy all in one shot.

Just to add, I think its great that Disney has a no-fly zone imposed, if for nothing more than to keep the advertisement planes away.

 

[flexsmom]

As much as WDW seems like it would be a prime target for terrorism, I really don't think it would. Terrorists are out to hurt our economy, not our places of sentimental value. Destroying Cinderellas Castle sounds horrible ( especially to us nut jobs ), but its not going to hurt our food supply or transportation. The most positive thing that a terrorist would get from attacking WDW would be to hurt / kill alot of people, but in their eyes, why not kill alot of people and hurt our economy all in one shot.

Just to add, I think its great that Disney has a no-fly zone imposed, if for nothing more than to keep the advertisement planes away.

While I agree that the direct economic impact would be minimal in terms of food or commodity supply, the mental impact of a hit on WDW would be huge. If WDW could be hit hard, with families and children affected, then I think parents everywhere in the US would severely limit their travel and leisure activities - where they take their kids - which would then result in that significant ecomomic impact. Psychologically, people would start fearing movie theaters, malls, and such - so I think it's the secondary impact that would have the greatest downstream effect. Don't forget that throughout history, war is about breaking the will of the PEOPLE - but we've become so used to the idea of avoiding "collateral damage" as a precondition of how we wage war that we think others do the same. Personally, I think that's why wars go on for so long now......

Anyhow - I'm glad Disney has no-fly zones on their properties.

 

[jberry5]

While I agree that the direct economic impact would be minimal in terms of food or commodity supply, the mental impact of a hit on WDW would be huge. If WDW could be hit hard, with families and children affected, then I think parents everywhere in the US would severely limit their travel and leisure activities - where they take their kids - which would then result in that significant ecomomic impact. Psychologically, people would start fearing movie theaters, malls, and such - so I think it's the secondary impact that would have the greatest downstream effect. Don't forget that throughout history, war is about breaking the will of the PEOPLE - but we've become so used to the idea of avoiding "collateral damage" as a precondition of how we wage war that we think others do the same. Personally, I think that's why wars go on for so long now......

Anyhow - I'm glad Disney has no-fly zones on their properties.

Thank you Flexsmom, that pretty much sums up why I said what I did. We'd likely see a similar or in my opinion a greater hit on travel & the markets/economy, than we did after 9-11, as more people from various locations around the world would be directly affected by such an act.

 

[mouseman41]

MSNBC is just another liberal outlet with nothing worth watching. We could use a little more coverage of the good things going on in this country. We could do with a lot more possitive and a lot less complaining.

 

[Piecey]

While I agree that the direct economic impact would be minimal in terms of food or commodity supply, the mental impact of a hit on WDW would be huge. If WDW could be hit hard, with families and children affected, then I think parents everywhere in the US would severely limit their travel and leisure activities - where they take their kids - which would then result in that significant ecomomic impact. Psychologically, people would start fearing movie theaters, malls, and such - so I think it's the secondary impact that would have the greatest downstream effect. Don't forget that throughout history, war is about breaking the will of the PEOPLE - but we've become so used to the idea of avoiding "collateral damage" as a precondition of how we wage war that we think others do the same. Personally, I think that's why wars go on for so long now......

Anyhow - I'm glad Disney has no-fly zones on their properties.

I totally agree.

My high school almost cancelled my first trip to the world.
It was a Marching Band thing, the April after 9-11 and most of the parents were in total agreement to cancel because they feared WDW would be a target. I understood, but it was frustrating... if we lived like that, they've already won.

 

[CanadianGuy]

Not terribly surprising that a news network controlled by the company that owns Universal theme-parks would feel this is unfair. And maybe it is on some level. I worked at NBC corporate when MSNBC was created and the network sure has changed over the years. Some good.. some bad.

But the fact remains that Disney is probably the bigger concern. Not Universal.

Knox

 

[disneycruise05]

Excuse me as I put on my flame suit......now that that's done...

MSNBC is just another liberal outlet with nothing worth watching. We could use a little more coverage of the good things going on in this country. We could do with a lot more possitive and a lot less complaining.

Just as Fox News is just another conservative outlet. Let's not forget that these are the opinions of Joe Scarborough, not MSNBC. I love MSNBC (especially Keith Olbermann), yet Scarborough is not my favorite person by far. So let's bash Scarborough Country, not MSNBC!

 

[write2caro]

MSNBC is just another liberal outlet with nothing worth watching. We could use a little more coverage of the good things going on in this country. We could do with a lot more possitive and a lot less complaining.

Why do people jump on the "liberal" part?? I guess all Fox News does is report on all the good things going on in the world?? I must miss those parts when I tune in. Are we still winning the war over on Fox?

As a pp said, network news seems to be so much about commerce these days - "liberal" or "conservative".

 

[write2caro]

Excuse me as I put on my flame suit......now that that's done...



Just as Fox News is just another conservative outlet. Let's not forget that these are the opinions of Joe Scarborough, not MSNBC. I love MSNBC (especially Keith Olbermann), yet Scarborough is not my favorite person by far. So let's bash Scarborough Country, not MSNBC!

I must have been typing just as you posted! I forgot my flame suit, though... wait... ... there... whew!

 

[ChrisFL]

Universal's best advertising is simply being located near WDW. Without the mouse, I'd be willing to bet their bottom line would shrink in no time. We've tried the Orlando one and the LA one, and were frankly disappointed. Now we did not do the roller coaster part in Orlando, but I would question if it's any better than say a park like Cedar Point?

It's no accident that they have a park in Orlando, and in LA. I think they have one in Japan too, and my guess is it's located within normal driving distance of Disney there. I wonder when Universal Paris is set to open?

Wow, you should really learn a bit....

Universal had its first studio tour when Walt was still practically in diapers. Universal has a park in Spain and soon to be Dubai, nowhere near any Disney park.

Universal Studios in Osaka is HARDLY within driving distance of Tokyo Disneyland.

Islands of Adventure is not a "rollercoaster park" and you can't compare it to Cedar Point or anything else for that matter, it's in a totally separate class of theme park. In fact, IOA designers were mostly imagineers let go by Disney after major cutbacks due to the EuroDisney disaster.

 

[bribert]

This is a product of Sweeps Month, which May is one. Pull in people to watch the news with stories like this, your ratings go up, your advertising dollars increase for the next TV season. Check even your local news broadcasts. Lots of teasing to get you to tune in and it's all tied to the almighty dollar which Disney is very often criticized for. Sometimes I think some of these news stations hope something horrible will happen in May or Nevember for sweeps months.

Just an FYI, there technically are no "sweeps" months anymore, since Nielsen went to people meters. Broadcast network TV is now a year-long event, which is why you see more junky reality shows on in the summer instead of repeats. The focus on ratings is still angled towards May, November, & February (August was also a former, less important sweeps month) because that is when viewership is at its highest. No summer vacations, no Christmas breaks, or other events to disrupt viewing.

 

[jberry5]

Wow, you should really learn a bit....

Universal had its first studio tour when Walt was still practically in diapers. Universal has a park in Spain and soon to be Dubai, nowhere near any Disney park.

Universal Studios in Osaka is HARDLY within driving distance of Tokyo Disneyland.

Islands of Adventure is not a "rollercoaster park" and you can't compare it to Cedar Point or anything else for that matter, it's in a totally separate class of theme park. In fact, IOA designers were mostly imagineers let go by Disney after major cutbacks due to the EuroDisney disaster.

I'm going by the locations listed on Universal Studios website for their parks: Orlando, Hollywood, and Japan. As said earlier by someone else, and then I clarified, I was not referring to Universal's studio tour, but rather the theme park as we think of Universal today, which came after Disneyland. As for the other points, I said I was guessing it was normal driving distance, but I see that it is about 2.5 hours via the bullet train. Which where I'm from doesn't seem unreasonable, but as you noted, definitely not if you're driving it which would probably be around 6 hours? I didn't go to the other part of Orlando's Universal, but just referred to it as I did, because people that I know that have gone to it, along with my brother & sis-in-law in Orlando, refer to it as a rollercoaster-type park, comparing it to Cedar Point. Looking at the map quickly, I can see why that comparison would be made, given where I am located. That they would use former Disney employees to design it, seems to mesh with what my opinion is. And it is just that, my opinion.

 

[KimWDW]

MSNBC is just another liberal outlet with nothing worth watching.

Um... Joe Scarborough is a Republican. He's from Florida and was a Republican U.S. Congressman for six years before he got his show on MSNBC.

Cluephone... it's for you!

 

[KS Jeff]

One more time....

There IS NO UNLIMITED "NO-FLY ZONE" over WDW. There is a 3000' "floor" within a 3 nautical mile radius of the property which means you cannot fly below 3000' in that area. Anything over 3000' is perfectly legal. It's right there on the Jacksonville sectional chart if you care to look.

 

[afcgirl]

I hate MSNBC!

Since most of their programming is ridiculous, their statement about Disney is not surprising.

(Tucker's okay though)

 

[civileng68]

What's even more ridiculous is that they're calling a simple 3,000 foot floor restriction within 3.3 miles of the place a "no-fly zone,"

Exactly! The "No-Fly" zone is STRICTLY for advertisements. Most people think it's some security thing. Obviously if there was a security reason for the zone, the limit would be MUCH higher than 3,000 feet. It's obvious that anyone pulling a banner wants to be under 3,000 feet so it's able to be read.

Okay, lets think about this.........if a terrorist wanted to plunge a plane into WDW, he could come in legally at 3,100 feet, and nose dive in. Lets see, that gives authorities all of maybe 10 seconds to react, which means absolutely nothing.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

. . . You might try PBS for a more indepth and balanced look at the current issues affecting our world . . .

1) I do this.
2) I also have NPR on the radio at work.
3) I only have to make a couple of adjustments.
4) I have to tilt my head to the right.
5) Makes up for the Left leaning of both.

 

[Bill From PA]

Um... Joe Scarborough is a Republican. He's from Florida and was a Republican U.S. Congressman for six years before he got his show on MSNBC.

Cluephone... it's for you!

Exactly, Scarborough is a wingnut who MSNBC hired because that outlet tries for real balance as opposed to offering lip service to that concept.

Bill From PA

 

[Millie12591]

Just one more reason not to watch MSNBC......

You took the words right out of my mouth, there is a reason they are failing miserably! And there are reasons others are soaring through the roof on ratings. Not to say they couldn't end up there too if they don't watch themselves.