Most Respectful DVC Homeowners

[DisneyDenis]

Now Disney will know who is responsible for trashing the resort....Magic bands could be tracked on a map over time. The Mouse is watching you....

 

[Dean]

Now Disney will know who is responsible for trashing the resort....Magic bands could be tracked on a map over time. The Mouse is watching you....

No more than they could have known before. They'd have to have someone scope out the damages to pin it down to a specific reservation which they do but only for major issues.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

However it stands to reason that someone who has a vested interest in a property might take more care than someone who does not, it is just human nature.

Admittedly, I saw no harm in the cast member's comment. Although there are many factors that contribute to wear and tear, from material quality to guest use, correlating VWL's condition with home resort member booking seems to be a reasonable conjecture.

VWL is one of the smallest resorts on property, is/was furnished in darker colors and has a loyal homeowner following. Perhaps the combination of these variables is ideal for better wear.

 

[Dean]

Admittedly, I saw no harm in the cast member's comment. Although there are many factors that contribute to wear and tear, from material quality to guest use, correlating VWL's condition with home resort member booking seems to be a reasonable conjecture.

VWL is one of the smallest resorts on property, is/was furnished in darker colors and has a loyal homeowner following. Perhaps the combination of these variables is ideal for better wear.

Or making the wear and damages less noticeable.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

Also, for the record, I anticipate VGF to age poorly. First and foremost, whites and brights are harder to keep clean. Moreover, I fear that VGF will have many guests with a sense of entitlement, expecting accommodations, amenities and services fitting of GF main building and Sugarloaf Key concierge rooms and suites.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

Or making the wear and damages less noticeable.

Yes, I agree, Dean.

 

[bocaj1431]

The cast member stated that wear across the DVC resorts is unequal largely because of members. Based on observations and reports from cast members in housekeeping, maintenance and management, there is one group of homeowners that is more respectful than any other. Supposedly, from rooms to common areas, VWL guests are significantly more respectful, which may be attributed to the statistics that indicate most guests staying at VWL own at VWL.

So, for whatever it is worth, perhaps home resort love runs deeper in the untamed wilderness than in other parts of the world.

Jim 8O[/QUOTE]

I own at both AKV and Saratoga and I decided to stay at VWL this year. I had many questions about the villas so I went to the thread for VWL. I don't know whether or not they are more respectful but the people on that thread are the nicest, most helpful, non judgmental people I have communicated with on the DIS.

Maybe there is something in the water at the VWL.

 

[Sammie]

I know that you cannot make a blanket statement about different ways a guest treats a room based on if they are owners or not. However it stands to reason that someone who has a vested interest in a property might take more care than someone who does not, it is just human nature. This is why it is well know that purchasing a used car from a rental car company has a higher risk of problems than purchasing from an original owner as someone who drives a rental car is likely to treat it differently than their own car.

I know from reading these boards that Disney has a reputation of over booking the value resorts and then upgrading people to SSR or OKW because there is availability. I imagine someone paying $93.00 a night for a room may have a different value perspective than an owner.

I am sorry but I find the implication that someones that stays in a value resort more likely to damage an upgrade absolutely ridiculous and elitist.

Many wealthy people/owners can be just as destructive as anyone else and I have been told many times by DVC staff that members do a great deal of damage at the DVC resorts due to the mentality of "they own it."

 

[tasha99]

I know that you cannot make a blanket statement about different ways a guest treats a room based on if they are owners or not. However it stands to reason that someone who has a vested interest in a property might take more care than someone who does not, it is just human nature. This is why it is well know that purchasing a used car from a rental car company has a higher risk of problems than purchasing from an original owner as someone who drives a rental car is likely to treat it differently than their own car.

I know from reading these boards that Disney has a reputation of over booking the value resorts and then upgrading people to SSR or OKW because there is availability. I imagine someone paying $93.00 a night for a room may have a different value perspective than an owner.

I think thats silly at best. We got that upgrade years ago- it was wonderful. We treated our villa the same as we would now as owners. The renters/owners line seems off to me too. I suspect many of us are both.

 

[Chuck S]

I think thats silly at best. We got that upgrade years ago- it was wonderful. We treated our villa the same as we would now as owners. The renters/owners line seems off to me too. I suspect many of us are both.

I agree with that. We had stayed in a tower room at the Contemporary before buying DVC. After DVC, if we wanted to just add a night here and there, we stayed at a value. Pop Century became one of my favorite cash resorts.

 

[dwelty]

I am sorry but I find the implication that someones that stays in a value resort more likely to damage an upgrade absolutely ridiculous and elitist. Many wealthy people/owners can be just as destructive as anyone else and I have been told many times by DVC staff that members do a great deal of damage at the DVC resorts due to the mentality of "they own it."

My comment had nothing to do with the perceived socio-economic status of anyone staying at a value. I have stayed at all Star Movies and Sports on two different occasions. I know many DVC members may stay there a day or two at the beginning of a trip to stretch their points.

My point was that someone who went to WDW with the intention of renting a room may not have the same attitude about the treatment of a room than someone who owns there. This is why I used the rental car analogy.

 

[Mickey'sApprentice]

I thought all the DVC resorts got H2O Spa products? To be fair, we've only stayed at Aulani and the Grand Californian so far, but we've had them at both. I thought that was just one of the perks of a Deluxe resort.

The value and moderate resorts have the orange H2O products. The deluxes and DVC resorts other than GF and VGF have the grapefruit H2O products. GF and VGF have the sea marine products and Aulani has their own brand of H2O products. I don't know what Grand Californian has. I like the grapefruit shampoo but have to order it from the Disney store since the local Ulta store doesn't carry the H2O shampoos.

 

[acourtwdw]

The value and moderate resorts have the orange H2O products. The deluxes and DVC resorts other than GF and VGF have the grapefruit H2O products. GF and VGF have the sea marine products and Aulani has their own brand of H2O products. I don't know what Grand Californian has. I like the grapefruit shampoo but have to order it from the Disney store since the local Ulta store doesn't carry the H2O shampoos.

Last week AKL and AKV both had H20 products in clear bottles and Caribbean Beach had products with Mickey ears on them.

 

[sssteph]

DVC owners are not much different, many don't even know that there are trash rooms, they aren't listed in the room, or on the resort map, or pointed out at check in. Often CM's don't even know where the rooms are.

Bill

I found the trash and recycling room at the Villas at Grand Cali fairly easily. It was labeled and right next to the laundry room. We had a lots of soda and beer cans for recylcing. I think the bin even indicated that they donate the proceeds from the recycling to a local charity. I believe it was listed on the map, that is how I found it.

 

[katiekomo]

I'm not sure I agree with the wealthy entitlement posts. I've found that wealthy people who are used to nice accommodations are very respectful (with a few, loud exceptions at times). There's another attitude that I've seen: 'I saved five years for this, I'll do what I want'. (Obviously not saying everyone who saves five years will be disrespectful, but it is an attitude I've seen.)

Walking into VWL I get a sweet cabin in the woods feel. I've never slept there, but spent some time lounging in the lobby, eating and shopping. I feel 100% comfortable walking into VGF, WA, RC... but something about VWL makes me feel comfortable in a different way. Does that make sense?
I wonder if that home-y feeling contributes to people wanting to be more respectful. I'd bet that the DVC property built with FW will have a similar reputation.

I do agree that if people had the same unit each time, they would treat it differently than now it is now. We treat our DVC rooms with the same amount of respect as we do hotel rooms. No better, no worse. (Which, for the record, is that while I'm there I want to live in a clean space and when I leave I want to be respectful to the person who is cleaning up after me.) But I could see it easier for someone to mistreat a room they'll probably never see again, than a beach house or boat that they visit often.

 

[Sammie]

My comment had nothing to do with the perceived socio-economic status of anyone staying at a value. I have stayed at all Star Movies and Sports on two different occasions. I know many DVC members may stay there a day or two at the beginning of a trip to stretch their points.

My point was that someone who went to WDW with the intention of renting a room may not have the same attitude about the treatment of a room than someone who owns there. This is why I used the rental car analogy.

I just don't think you can categorize any person based on where they stay at Disney as to whether they are more likely to damage a room.

If they are that type of person, it won't make any difference whether they own, rent, or got an upgrade.

It's more about them as a person.

 

[toniosmom]

I think there are always going to be guests/members who are less considerate of the property, regardless which resort. We have stayed at almost all of the WDW deluxe resorts since becoming members in 2008. I love BLT (and own there), but the furniture there, while it has great style for the resort "theme", is too easily damaged. And the damage is very visible. The same knicks and scuffs on furniture at other resorts are not as easily noticeable.

 

[donaldbuzz&minnie]

DVC owners are not much different, many don't even know that there are trash rooms, they aren't listed in the room, or on the resort map, or pointed out at check in. Often CM's don't even know where the rooms are.

Bill

The Inn at Vero is the only DVC resort we've stayed in where we've wandered the halls in vain to find a trash room. (We've finally become accustomed to taking our trash to the parking garage.) In all the others, it's been easy to find.

Are there really a lot of DVC owners who don't realize they should be taking out their own trash? 10 extra minutes in the morning to make the beds and take the trash to the trash room means that we always come back to a room with a hotel-like feel without the hassle of knowing a housekeeper might appear at any inconvenient minute. One of the reasons we prefer DVC to a hotel.

 

[Donna M]

Due to the initial buy in cost and high points required along with the design, I wonder if VGF might see less damage down the road because less children may be staying there? We were there last month and loved it, but even with 500 points we only stayed 3 nights. If we had young children I would choose BLT if I needed the monorail or OKW for space. As we all know, even very well behaved children can do crazy things that may leave a mark.

 

[dianeschlicht]

My view is that DVC is but a rental car for any of us. Those who take care of their things and treat others things even better than their own will continue to take care as always. Those that tend to feel entitled may often take advantage and are less likely to treat things well than others. My experience over the years with the occasional rental averaging about 1.5-2/yr over almost 20 years is that those who are renting and non owners are far more appreciative and easier to deal with than owners.

I totally agree with Dean.