Most Economical Resort - Beyond Year 1

Does anybody else think the resale price for BLT is too low ?
I would sell my small contract but not for less than $200 per point
I think the current price is same as when I purchased in 2018 from DVCResale Market


I used to “ walk “ for holidays but can’t stand it anymore.
Too much work and pressure for me .
So at least one person doesn’t walk anymore if that helps.
I think most people would say that BLT looks like a good bang for the buck right now, especially with a well executed remodel…..but no one in their right mind would pay anywhere close to $200pp for a small BLT resale contract.

Maybe $140s if it’s fully loaded with banked points…. maybe…

https://www.fidelityrealestate.com/blog/march-2025-average-dvc-resale-price-per-point/
 
@AstroBlasters examples
SPACE 220: today 1130 or 430 / tomorrow 12, 2, 630, 730, 8
CRT: today 10am
Round up rodeo: today 12, 2, 745, 8, 9, 930
Sci fi: today 2, 9
Topolino: 9, 1130, 730, 8, 9, 930

All these places have walk up/digital wait lists as well. You spoof your GPS on the phone and can join it from anywhere at WDW and see the wait and play the game of getting on the list when it's lining up to when you want to eat (they can close wait lists though at times).

Hopefully it helps knowing if you don't grab a reservation just keep checking day our or day of and you will get in.
I understand what you are saying, we just don’t have that type of flexibility with pre-teen and teenage boys.

Probably best to get the thread back on the topic of most economical resorts…..
 
Given the cost of a direct 5-6 hour flight each way for a family of four in seats with legroom…. at times when school is out….and park tickets… and food… and merch…. no chance I am leaving that up to the 7m leftovers.

I get that a LOT of people are not in that boat. However, I always cringe a bit when I read that someone can “always get a waitlist filled” or “always get a table” or “always find cheap flights”…. and then neglect to add the context that it’s usually just them traveling by themselves or with one other person in January or August….

(This is not specific to anyone, just in general saying that context matters).
Totally agree, however I also have similar reactions when I read people describing how nothing is ever available at 7 months so you need to buy where you want to stay.

It definitely depends on the room categories you target, the resorts you like, and the times you'll be traveling.
 

I really miss how great and wonky this post was, and wish we had an update, @ehh! Not sure that there is much to say, but this might be my favorite post of all time.
Oh, hey, what good timing, I'm back! (as of yesterday)

And just in time for July, when a 'regularly scheduled' update would have happened with the 3mo cadence I was working with before.
 
Oh, hey, what good timing, I'm back! (as of yesterday)

And just in time for July, when a 'regularly scheduled' update would have happened with the 3mo cadence I was working with before.
I'm glad I clicked on your profile because I was saying your SN wrong in my head. I alternated between Ehhhh like Fonzie and Ehhh like you were trying to remember something. Turns out its Eh like Meh!
Anyway carry on...as you were
 
I’m sure someone has said it or it exists somewhere… don’t just take into account cost and dues. How about points per room? Look at all 3 and really dig in. Some resort points for a stay are extremely more attractive than say GFV
 
I’m sure someone has said it or it exists somewhere… don’t just take into account cost and dues. How about points per room? Look at all 3 and really dig in. Some resort points for a stay are extremely more attractive than say GFV
Let me point you to posts number 4, which was made more readable in post 27, updated with October data in post 66, and updated again with January 2025 data in post 88 😊

That makes the assumption that one only ever stays at their home resort.
I post about this from both angles for a reason 😅

I think the bigger, and more difficult, question to answer is: what do I get for spending more?

More difficult because value is so personal, so mostly I just put the numbers out and let people value things themselves.
 
I'm glad I clicked on your profile because I was saying your SN wrong in my head. I alternated between Ehhhh like Fonzie and Ehhh like you were trying to remember something. Turns out its Eh like Meh!
Anyway carry on...as you were
Fonzie is clearly "Aayyy!" Maybe you were thinking of Bernie Sanders. He's more "Ehhh."
 
Does anybody else think the resale price for BLT is too low ?
I would sell my small contract but not for less than $200 per point
I think the current price is same as when I purchased in 2018 from DVCResale Market


I used to “ walk “ for holidays but can’t stand it anymore.
Too much work and pressure for me .
So at least one person doesn’t walk anymore if that helps.

I should have disclosed that walking this past year did get me Halloween nights and NYE at BLT studio and one bedroom ….
I have 100 point original first year direct purchase and 55 point BLT resale .

Normally prices skyrocket after a full refurb but not this years economy
 
So DVC Resale Market does a solid job looking at the dues-inclusive economics of buying a DVC contract every quarter, last one being from May: https://www.dvcresalemarket.com/blog/best-economical-dvc-resorts-to-purchase-spring-2024/.

They take the tried-and-true method of taking the upfront cost then dividing equally across years remaining to get a cost/year figure that takes into account contract length. Then they add in the current year dues for an approachable and good breakdown of DVC resort economics.

But what if you want to know the economics of DVC contracts beyond year 1? What if you want to factor in the time value of money and weight sooner years more than distant years?

Well, you're in the right place then.

First, I really want to thank @CastAStone for his 'Discount' methodology for upfront cost weighting over time as the true inspiration for this. As soon as I saw it, it was a clear "oh duh!" moment for an improved apportionment of upfront costs. Also want to thank DVC Resale Market for their analysis every quarter as a bit of inspiration, as well as sharing resale prices every month, as those will be used here.

I'll have follow-up posts explaining the math of both the upfront cost apportionment as well as Dues forecasting, as they each both deserve full explanations. I'll also reserve space for a stretch goal of factoring in points charts, and another for factoring in cash room rates (you know what, make it a superstretch!).

So without further adieu, my forecast for the Most Economical Resort in 2025, based on buying at current resale prices (from here), direct prices (150pt contract, existing member, and Welcome Home), and Dues:
Jul2024-MER-Year-1-Table.png


Okay, but you're here for Beyond Year 1. Here's a chart of the forecast from 2025 - 2034:

Jul2024-MER-10-Year-Chart.png


And one through 2074, with an upper-bound set to preserve some readability:

Jul2024-MER-50-Year-Chart.png



Charts with 21 lines are tough to read, so here's tables for Year 5 (2029), Year 10 (2034), and Year 17 (2041):
Jul2024-MER-Year-5-Table.png


Jul2024-MER-Year-10-Table.png


Jul2024-MER-Year-17-Table.png


But here's the thing about this, these are still only 1 year snapshots of cost. You're (probably) not keeping the contract for just 1 year, let alone specifically Year 5, 10, or 17. You gotta pay dues every year and breaking down the upfront costs over multiple years only 'works' if you keep it for multiple years.

So here's cumulative 'costs' for Years 1-5, Years 1-10, and Year 1-17:
Jul2024-MER-Years-1-5-Table.png
Jul2024-MER-Years-1-10-Table.png
Jul2024-MER-Years-1-17-Table.png



And some critical caveats:
  • I'll explain more below in my Dues Explanation post, but VGF dues feel likely to be higher than forecasted.
  • There's a ton of uncertainty when forecasting dues out, much past 10-17 years is likely no better than a total guess.
    • Even the next few years might be totally off!
  • This is only a single 'discounting' method using a 5% value discount per year. This not necessarily better or more valid than other methodologies! Fuller explanation in a follow-up post below.
    • In fact, in my personal tracking spreadsheets I use a 0% discount to keep tracking simpler.
  • A medium amount of data entry and lot of spreadsheet tinkering went into this, it's possible there's a clerical error.
    • In fact, about halfway into writing this I realized the resale prices I used were a hybrid of April 2024 and June 2024. I'm now using June 2024 exclusively.

Some other call outs!
  • I've set this up such that updating for latest prices/dues/dues-growth is actually fairly easy, so I should be able to update and maintain this going forward!
  • I've done my best with chart readability but with 21 curves it's tough. If you have any recommendations, I'll definitely listen.
    • I had the semi-bright idea of using color combos from the buildings at the resorts...but it turns out a bunch are very similar!
  • I might regret or stop doing this later, but after I get through all my following explanatory posts, I might even be open to taking requests of custom comparisons.
Thank you so much for this. This is fantastic data and analysis. I'm a numbers person with a finance background and I’m really impressed.

I actually did some modeling and financial analysis myself and came to a similar conclusion, which is why I went with SSR for my first contract a few months ago.

My analysis wasn’t nearly as detailed, but I did calculate NPV, future cash flows versus real-time costs, and ran some ROI scenarios in case I decided to rent or partially rent points in certain years. The results lined up pretty closely with what you found.

Of course, there will always be an emotional factor that can’t be measured in this kind of analysis. But for someone like me, this is exactly the type of insight I look for.
 















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