More Security at Resorts? (rumor)

[Mofang]

My recollection is that the express and resort monorails (currently) share the same exit platform.

Hmm, trying to remember - you may be right here. If so, it wouldn't be difficult to divide the exit platform, though - although they'd need to give up the dual lanes on the ramp, which would slow clearing the platform considerably.

 

[Mofang]

Fwiw, in the pizza debate, it's worth noting that Disney now includes a flier in every room warning guests that fliers under the door for pizza services and the like are illegitimate.

 

[Dean Marino]

All suggestions, all personal opinion - I'm not right, no one else is wrong..... I'll focus on MK, as it is in the highest level of distress....

First thing WDW needs to do is to take advantage of their existing technology.... the stuff they PAID for. Today? We have Magic Bands..... OK, they are not "Magic" - they are just secured links to a Database.

Step 1 - implement the equivalent of "TSA PRE", or "TSA CLEAR". Start pre-screening your guests. My wife and I would GLADLY provide pre-screening info. Surprise - that MAGIC BAND (back end DB link) could deal with this. And the computer infrastructure has already been PAID for.
OR? WDW could spend millions on "screening gates". "WDW PRE" lanes could easily work at ALL parks.

Step 2 - MK specific....The WDW Ferry. Most common "local" entry point. Have you SEEN the Transportation Center? It's HUGE, and very empty. Just me - that's where I would put "local" Security gates. Beats trying to shove stuff between the MK "Real Entrance", and the LAKE. Backing people up into the WATER is really Bad Show.

Step 3 - and I hate this one. Disney Springs remains as a complete Security Risk. In the past? WDW has played games to minimize the risk. The GAMES must end....

The New DS BUS outbound lot MUST have a Security Entrance Point..... regular, and "WDW PRE" lanes. You will go through one, or the other.....


Again, All suggestions, all personal opinion- I'm not right, no one else is wrong. Disney really needs to take advantage of the technology they have already PAID for. To do so would make them no more "evil" than every airport in the US. PRE SCREEN. Let people choose to provide Data NOW, or Data at ENTRY.

Oh - side note for WDW..... yes, my wife and I WOULD pay for this.

 

[Oozma_Kappa]

How would this deter a psycho from the parking lot from handing off something to his counterpart coming off the bus?

 

[disneynutz]

Bag checks are intended to make people feel safer, not to actually provide security. Finding prohibited items is an extra.

Parks and resorts is a PR dependent company. If there are reports of bad people doing bad on the news, attendance goes down, alligators, attendance goes down, mosquitoes, attendance goes down. Disney provides a visible answer to these conditions, issues a press release or leak to make the public feel safer and to increase attendance.

Bill

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Fwiw, in the pizza debate, it's worth noting that Disney now includes a flier in every room warning guests that fliers under the door for pizza services and the like are illegitimate.

Thank you...that's what umma sayin'

Since all their locations other than downtown have been gated access for ALONG time...they shouldn't really allow outside pizza delivery anyway

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Bag checks are intended to make people feel safer, not to actually provide security. Finding prohibited items is an extra.

Parks and resorts is a PR dependent company. If there are reports of bad people doing bad on the news, attendance goes down, alligators, attendance goes down, mosquitoes, attendance goes down. Disney provides a visible answer to these conditions, issues a press release or leak to make the public feel safer and to increase attendance.

Bill

Exactly...100%

Most of "security" not on the government payroll is actually "deterrence"

My example is in the late 80's or early 90's when the "security scanners" were first put in your grocery store...they were likely to be empty/fake. Fake camera mounts...police cars in plain view during travel heavy seasons...

If you look at suppliers of security equipment today...they still sell a wide variety of dummy equipment.

Real security costs a ton of money...it's one thing to install a camera but who are you paying round the clock to watch it? Who's paying their doctors bills when their 7 year old breaks her foot? Think that Mickey polyester is cheap?

...ok...I out kicked my coverage on that one

Right now, the Walt Disney world resort is supplying thousands of employees - not to mention logistics - to serve your perceptions. And as we have seen almost daily (including yesterday in a middle school...were a 14 year old was having a "bad day" and had access to ballistics...then one responder mistakenly shot another...) the threat is real and we are not well prepared to deal with it.

Is it all random luck? Unless we are gonna make a fundamental philosophical change...yeah...pretty much.

They have analyzed data (that's what they are really good at)...and determined that they had no choice but to pay for an elaborate security setup..it's really quite mind boggling what they have invested.

And this isn't 9/11 that caused it...it's the nutty domestic stuff we have seen these last 5 years or so.

...I yield the soapbox

 

[Josh Hendy]

Fwiw, in the pizza debate, it's worth noting that Disney now includes a flier in every room warning guests that fliers under the door for pizza services and the like are illegitimate.

Then it beats me how the people who distribute the fliers can enter the resort parking lot in their car and walk through the the lobby with an armload of fliers without causing an alert/response/ejection and a citation for trespassing.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Then it beats me how the people who distribute the fliers can enter the resort parking lot in their car and walk through the the lobby with an armload of fliers without causing an alert/response/ejection and a citation for trespassing.

It's not hard to get into a hotel...

It would be hard to repeatedly drive in and out to deliver pizzas

 

[Elizakapeka]

I can't imagine from a security standpoint that doing bag check prior to the parks would be a good idea. Anyone can bring prohibited items picked up between getting off trasportation and the park entrance. I don't see this happening.

 

[Britkurd]

Possible but I would think doubtful. I'm sure this would be a way to shorten bag lines at the parks but then how do you know who's already been checked and who hasn't.

i live in the Middle East where we have bag checks absolutely everywhere. They usually put a sticker on the bag and the next check will remove it. The sticker just lets them know we have been checked so they don't do it again. Obviously these stickers are unique and can't be replicated

 

[Minniesgal]

I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised in fact I'm surprised they haven't been doing this up until now. This has been standard at DLP for years now. You don't get anywhere near a hotel without being checked for security.

 

[Minniesgal]

How would this deter a psycho from the parking lot from handing off something to his counterpart coming off the bus?

It would need to be done like it is at airports and at DLP with a manned barrier between searched and unsearched guests.

 

[disneynutz]

Bag checks don't stop a determined person from being bad. Why bother with something in a bag when you have so many other ways to enter the parks or property with small or large ways to cause harm.

Bill