More Resorts??

mickeyjan

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We just returned from our stay at BCV. Why are they building more villas and hotels when the parks can not accomadate the crowds? These were the worst crowds that I have ever seen. The crowds were said to be down and that is why all the parks closed early. I was there from 4/19-4/25 and even the kiddie rides had 50 min. waits. The TOT was 120 minutes!! Fast-pass return was 4 hours and the wait was still 30 minutes to ride. This is not magic. There was only one parade per day per park and no pardes on Thursday, Friday or Saturday as the Mk was close by 7:00. :confused:
 
mickeyjan-sorry you had such long waits...we were there (Magic Kingdom and Epcot) on Friday (4/23) and did not have bad waits at all. Longest in MK was probably 10 minutes, and in Epcot, we waited 15 minutes for Maelstrom. We normally go in September and walk on everything. But we were pleasantly surprised that we didn't have long waits this trip.
 
Crowds on 4/19 at MK were as bad as I ever saw but the rest of the week seemed light. (4/20 at MK was medium) TOT was 13 minutes = walkon when we were there on Wed 4/21.

Most kids were preschoolers. I expected loong lines in Fantasyland.

Curious how perceptions vary.
 
mickeyjan-MK closed early on Thursday, Friday and Saturday due to WDW's annual Grad Nights, where the close the park for 2004 high school graduates to celebrate and ride the rides. That was also part of the deal with there being so many people there. (I found out because we were staying at FW cabins and Mousekeeping left us a note apologizing for the fireworks testing they were doing prior to the event.)
 

I guess I went to every park on the wrong day as I did not experience any line under 45 min. Maybe you were there 5 min. after the park opened but in the heat of the day the crowds were brutal. This is not a perception . . . it is a fact. The sign read TOT, 120 min. This can not be perceived any other way except long. Most popular rides stopped giving fastpasses by 3 o'clock. I am a real Disney fan and go every year but I have to admit when I am disappointed in the Disney Magic.
 
Originally posted by mickeyjan
Why are they building more villas and hotels when the parks can not accomadate the crowds?

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...and they will wait in long lines, and they will buy big bottles of overpriced water to quench the thirst they build while waiting, and they will spend even more money in the restaurants as they rest their legs from standing, and they will find themselves so delirious that they will open their wallets again and again to Disney until they go home spent -- both physically and fiscally.

Why does Disney do it?

Because they can!
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again (Actually, I wrote a very long trip report on this topic), NOBODY is better at separating people from their money than Disney.

No matter how crowded the parks "feel," or how much they reduce the hours, even if there's only one parade a month and it is at 3:00 in the morning, even if they take away the bars of soap and replace them with liquid soap dispensers, even if they only operate Carousel of Progress "seasonally," even if Adventureland opens an hour later than the rest of the Magic Kingdom, even if they create a section of Animal Kingdom and call it Dinoland, even if early entry comes and goes and comes back again but is magically called the Extra Magic Hour, even if the price of admission keeps going up at a rate which far surpasses the rate of inflation (if only my 401(k) increased at the same rate each year), even if they close Horizons, mess around with Journey Into Imagination, remove 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and replace it with, well . . . nothing, even if they seemingly stop doing routine maintenance and even if they visit the most horrible injustice of all upon resort guests and stop running the beloved Zip A Dee Doo Dah Tip For the Day and force us (force us, mind you) to endure Christa peddling their wares with a shameless lack of subtlety, WE WILL STILL COME!

Why? Because it's Disney and we love Disney and no matter what they do or stop doing, no matter how much magic we imagine is no longer there, no matter how many souvenir mugs we foolishly purchase, no matter how many "it's a small world" dolls no longer work, no matter that they suddenly stopped shooting the hippos on Jungle Cruise, no matter that Dumbo, Astro Orbiters, Aladdin's Magic Carpets and Triceratops Spin are virtually identical rides, no matter that they took away the Zip A Dee Doo Dah Tip For the Day (idiots!) no matter that it is so crowded in the Magic Kingdom after Wishes that people literally fear for their lives and seek refuge in the shops on Mall Street USA, we still love it there. It is still Disney World. It's like going home to visit your parents. You may not like what's happened to your old neighborhood, your basketball hoop may be gone and your parents may have turned your room into a crafts room, whatever that is, and the place might reek of cat, but you still go home. Because it's your home and you love your parents. Or at least you want to stay in the will. Either way.

For many of us, Disney World is still the best vacation spot we ever visit. That's why they keep building new resorts. Because people like me don't go to Hawaii. Or the Caribbean. Or even New York. Disney knows that we won't go to those places if we can visit a reasonable facsimile the next time we're at Disney World. People like me love it there and they know it. Why else do they make us ride a bus and tell us it's a benefit for resort guests only?
 
On 4/23 and 4/24 the TOT was having some technical problems in one of the shafts, so that's why the lines were so long. Come 4/26 both shafts were working and the lines were managable.
 
Plus Disney can make it so that you will only have Park access if you are staying on site. $$$$$$$ So yes they can continue building on their property and still book all the new rooms...Their guest will be the only ones guaranteed admission to Parks.

I remember when Disney opened they warned the Orlando area, not to over build hotels/motels that they would over time have enough accommodations to handle all of the visitors.
 














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